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Men of War II - series revival by original Men of War devs

Discussion in 'Tactical Gaming' started by Infinitron, Nov 23, 2021.

  1. Infinitron I post news Patron

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  2. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    So, this seems to be a repurposing of an F2P multiplayer game called Men of War II: Arena (formerly Soldiers: Arena).



    Any Codexer know more about this?
     
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    Fun fact: in Ukraine and Russia, the series is known as "В тылу врага" ("Behind enemy lines").

    In the west, the first game was released as "Soldiers: Heroes of World War II" and the second game was released as "Faces of War". The first game spawned a series of stand-alone expansion packs made by a different team and called "Диверсанты" ("Saboteurs") which was never released outside of Eastern Europe. "Men of War" is actually a second expansion pack for "Faces of War" (the first expansion was named "Faces of War - Brothers in Arms"). The second game spawned two series of stand-alone expansion packs made by a different dev teams - one is from german dev Digitalmind soft ("Штурм" aka "Assault Squad") and another from russian devs ("Черные бушлаты"/"Men of War: Red Tide", "В тылу врага - Вьетнам"/"Men of War Vietnam" and "Штрафбат"/"Condemned heroes").

    It's a massive clusterfuck. Thanks, Ubisoft.

    So it goes like this:
    - Behind enemy lines ("Soldiers: Heroes of World War II" in the west)
    - Behind enemy lines: Saboteurs
    - Behind enemy lines: Saboteurs 2
    - Behind enemy lines: Saboteurs 3
    - Behind enemy lines 2 ("Faces of War" in the west)
    - Behind enemy lines 2: Brothers in Arms ("Faces of War - Brothers in arms" in the west)
    - Behind enemy lines 2: Desert Fox ("Men of War" in the west)
    - Behind enemy lines 2: Assault ("Men of War: Assault Squad" in the west)
    - Behind enemy lines: Assault 2 ("Men of War: Assault Squad 2" in the west)
    - Behind enemy lines: Assault 2: Cold War ("Men of War: Assault Squad 2 - Cold War" in the west)
    - Black coats ("Men of War: Red Tide" in the west)
    - Behind enemy lines: Vietnam ("Men of War: Vietnam" in the west)
    - Behind enemy lines: Penal Battalion ("Men of War: Condemned Heroes" in the west)

    Men of War: Arena was a stillborn multiplayer spin-off no one asked for. It was closed in august 2021, with Best Way promising to use the existing engine and assets to develop a full-fledged premium sequel without f2p BS.
     
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    Interesting. Didn't know there was this many Men of War games. Any Russians or Ukrainians that played the ones not released in west? Did we miss out on something special?
     
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    Too bad that Arena didn't work out as I had lots of fun with it. Oh well, I will probably get this one.
     
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    I have most of them, but the biggest problem they have at least with MP related is the memory leak bug, where the game would either lag and crash or just CTD about 15-20 min into game.
    No such issue with Call to Arms Ostfront, honestly I thought it was the unofficial Men of War 2 for a while since the mechanics are the same.
     
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    Where are all the WOMYN???????
     
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    https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/ho...shape-the-frontlines-of-world-war-ii-strategy

     
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  9. adddeed Arcane Possibly Retarded

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    My favorite is Faces of War.
    Started the series with the first Soldiers. Couldnt believe how much i had playing that, was unline anything else ive played.
     
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  10. TalesfromtheCrypt Arcane

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    Playing the original Men of War for the fiest time currently, almost at the end of the Soviet campaign. This game is just awesome, acion-packed fun. Direct control is an awesome feature, nothing like mowing down Germans in my T-34 or wreaking havoc in a stolen King Tiger.
    The campaign is quite challenging but on normal it's been doable so far with a bit of savescumming. I'm lovin the huge battles but the commandos style sequences and missions in between are a nice change of pace. A Men of War sequel with a proper SP campaign? Hell yeah, can't wait.
     
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    Gates of Hell has first person for tanks. It's really damn awesome. You can switch between first person and classic direct control if you prefer that.

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    Always loved the series, and when I saw Arena in beta I looked into getting an account, but the cheapo lowest tier ones were already locked (in less than a week), and since it was some proprietary Russian site I wasn't too eager to give them money. Seeing now it's been shut down, seems like I dodged a bullet there.

    To clarify - despite loving the games I've been weary of both Best Way and Digitalmindsoft after the shit they pulled about the Call To Arms - I've bought the game TWICE and I still don't have all the content, because they've changed how various editions are released. First I got the preorder which was supposed to be complete, but that got switched to be an equivalent to basic, so I bought the deluxe upgrade, but now the game has an ultimate edition. Sure, all this shitfuckery took a few years, and thankfully I bought it all on steam discounts but it still leaves a sour taste of how they do business.

    As for MOW2, I'm glad they went to Steam, because the multiplayer in MOW was pretty bad. Dedicated hosting in MOW was just too archaic, and outside 1v1 it was quite hard to find a match that wasn't a pubstomp against an organized team; while matchmaking was just broken, and after a while barely anyone used it.
     
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    Really tried to enjoy Call of Arms but something is just off with that Men of War title. Not sure it's the setting or something else.
     
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    How is Gates of Hell? I just learned about this game from this thread and it looks nice, but I‘m worried about reviews mentioning completely braindead ai. What‘s worse is they are referring to the individual unit behaviour AI, which I think is pretty good in the original Men of War.
     
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    Been playing it a bit. Without a certain mod for conquest at least the enemy AI is rather suicidal. They come at you in a straight line. With the mod they come at you still, but more spread out and use more kind of units, like mortars and such. They also flank sometimes. But yeah, vanilla AI don't seem that great in conquest mode. Not played singleplayer missions yet so I have no idea there.
     
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    Campaigns ratings-

    Men of War 1- Good. German campaign has no commando missions IIRC, American is all commando missions and USSR is a mix.
    Red Tide- Good but more commando missions than MoW1. I think it has more missions than any of the others.
    Vietnam- Pure shit. Nothing but buggy commando missions. One involves pixel-hunting for a bunch of snipers hiding in trees.
    Condemned Heroes- Decent. Don't know if it was a step down or I was just bored of the formula at this point
    Assault Squad- The single player "missions" are all skirmish maps with infinite waves of enemies vs infinite waves of your own troops. You just try to take all the objectives in a straight line and push the enemy off the board.

    I was generally not a fan of the commando missions because they were so silly. You would just hijack a heavy weapon and then set yourself up to funnel enemies down a corridor.
     
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  17. adddeed Arcane Possibly Retarded

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    You should play Soldiers Heroes of WWII and Faces of War.
    Campaign missions are a lot of fun. Faces of war has all kinds.
     
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  18. jebsmoker Magister Patron

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    soldiers is incredible and the campaigns are great fun. the physics in that game is still one of my all time favorites
     
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    Yep it was quite a nice surprise back in 2004.
    I think Faces of War was the peak of the series for me. Did not enjoy Men of War as much. Speaking single player only.
     
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    Heroes of WWII and Faces of War were truly great games. Men of War was also good, but I didn't like that it was more multiplayer oriented. I also remember how Heroes of WWII caused a bit of a butthurt, because in the German campaign you were playing as SS troops under the command of hauptsturmfuhrer Michael Wittmann killing copious amounts of Allies.:M
     
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    Will they be implementing morale/psych this time around or will the troops still be Leeroy Jenkins?
     
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    One of my favorites was the one from the british campaign where u had to blow a fuel depo in africa and the american one with the bridge in the beginning where in the end a flak barge comes in.
     
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