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Metal Max Series Discussion

Discussion in 'jRPG Weeaboo Discussion' started by Omasterkurosawa, May 24, 2021.

  1. Omasterkurosawa Literate

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    Today marks the announcement of the first PC port of a Metal Max game, Metal Max Xeno Reborn and the future release of two episodes : Metal Max Wild West (xeno 2) and Metal Saga 2.

    Since there's no serie thread yet, being an open world jrpg series that might appeal to The Codex, here it is.:incline:

    As of today there's two officialy localised games, Metal Saga on PS2 and Metal Max Xeno(reborn) on multiple platforms.

    There's also three released fan translations.

    -Metal Max on NES
    https://www.romhacking.net/translations/4065/

    -Metal Max Returns, a remake of metal max on SNES
    https://www.romhacking.net/translations/1215/

    -Metal Max 3 on NDS
    https://www.romhacking.net/translations/5598/

    And, last but not least, a future translation of Metal Max 2 reloaded on NDS will be released soon™


    Let's discuss !
     
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  2. Jrpgfan Erudite

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    Didn't expect Rajneesh followers to be in the game.
     
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  3. jungl Augur

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    I left off playing 3 around the last dungeon got burnt out. its a good game but high encounter rate kills a games fun. This franchise need at least one dragon quest 12 style production value game.

    High encounter rate kills games. Early "Traditional" jap rpgs were a mistake. Japs finally got their shit together when they realized high encounter rate is cancer and there is more to game development and enjoyment.
     
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  4. Terra Arbiter

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    Guess I'll talk about Metal Saga a bit for anyone that's interested. Somewhat scattered recollection as I haven't replayed it in like over 10 years.

    This was one of the many PS2 JRPGs that never came to PAL-land aka Europe, and thus was one of the many games I imported back in the day. And what a game it was. Closest comparison is its almost like a Japanese take on Wasteland. At least in terms of setting and humour. Sure, there's a bigger focus on vehicles but the wacky/silly enemies, factions and scenarios are mirrored in both series. Both are post-apoc settings with small communities getting by.

    The vehicle art kinda remind me of little matchbox toys or those seen in the isometric Strike series, recovered vehicles can be customised quite heavily and given custom paint jobs. It's really satisfying watching your vehicle collection grow over the course of the game and as you gain access to some of the harder to obtain tanks.

    I did recently read that the Japanese release of Metal Saga had more content, not sure if this is correct though. As it stands though, the American release has at least one bugged, unfinishable quest (big medal quest) - it's a collectable quest though and I don't think you miss much.

    There's loads of fun references and homages to other media, one minute you'll be on a bounty job tracking down a hostile school bus in the middle of the desert (found by waiting at a bus stop there) the next you'll find yourself forcibly entered into an extreme bodybuilding cult based out of a monastery who worship St. Arnold.

    The basic premise is you striking out into what is a pretty wide open game world, and you're pretty free to do that however you wish, though your first steps should be to find a vehicle and mechanic companion. Vehicles act as rideables and can be employed in most battles, except some interiors you might want to explore, so you need to keep both your vehicles & team in good shape throughout. Enemies can target, damage and break particular components of your tank, so you can find yourself with the main cannon disabled at an inopportune moment. I *think* you also have to manage vehicle fuel or risk stranding your vehicles, though buying a teleporter accessory for your vehicles somewhat mitigates this. Finding a new vehicle isn't the end though, you need a spare companion available to pilot it back to your garage.

    There's a nice ability to speed thru battle anims by holding L2 I think. It's a godsend because it lets you blast through fodder enemies in <2 seconds, so random battles aren't much of a hindrance.

    The game is chock full of Bounties to hunt down, these are all basically optional bosses/super bosses and range from the mildly threatening to a huge flying sky fortress you'll likely catch a glimpse of way before you can challenge it.

    Imo, the game is highly addictive, it's a real unsung gem of the PS2 Atlus localisation era.

    The game has loads of random events & premature endings, you can end up married to the female mechanic in the 2nd town (I think), play the longer game and try to marry childhood friend Rachel at the bar (longer sidequest required iirc), get challenged to tank duels from a trio of friendly rivals you make in one of the towns, there's just too many to list really, but combined with the core game loop of exploration, bounty hunting, vehicle acquisition and customising, it makes for a very satisfying, yet laid back, chill experience in a open world you tackle at your pace.

    I'd gush some more as I love this game but I can't remember many of the finer details/nuances to it beyond the above and wouldn't want to spoil it for anyone that's interested. For anyone even mildly interested though, Metal Saga is a fun, relaxing slow burn game that can easily gobble up hours of your time. I sincerely hope the new sequel follows in its footsteps.
     
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  5. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Steam page for Xeno Reborn.

     
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  6. lightbane Arcane

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    Shame this Xeno title seems standard JRPG drivel, complete with a very anime protagonist and grim setting that stands at odds with previous entries, that took the whole thing less seriously.
     
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  7. Omasterkurosawa Literate

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    I have found a japanese fan site that seems quite complete (well at least more than anything western).

    https://metalmaniax.com/index.php?FrontPage

    Unfortunately google translate doesn't work on all pages so you should manually ctrl+C ctrl+V it to understand something.
     
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  8. newtmonkey Arcane

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    I've been playing Metal Max (FC) over the past few days and am really liking it so far. Everyone talks up how non-linear the game is, but it's more that you have access to the entire world map from the start and aren't really gated by difficult encounters outdoors due to how resilient your tanks are. You aren't even gated by not having tanks early on, really, since you gain the ability to rent tanks for "free" very early into the game. Instead, you are more gated by the difficulty of boss encounters and the "dungeons" (since there are often sections you need to explore on foot, so you don't get any protection from tanks). I suppose you could do things out of order, but I can't imagine the early stages of the game going very well if you don't follow what appears to be the intended route through the game (get first tank, get second party member, get second tank, beat cannon to get access to north part of map, get third party member, etc.).

    Optional content so far seems to mostly be hunting optional bosses and exploring to find optional towns/villages that sell nice equipment. You can also find somewhat overpowered weapons by searching certain conspicuous locations outdoors.

    I guess one thing that was a bit of a disappointment for me is the fixed party. Your main character is always a hunter, your second character is always a mechanic, and your third is always a soldier. I know later games in the series offer full party creation, so there's that to look forward to.
     
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  9. Grampy_Bone Arcane

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    I played through Metal Max 3 on the DS not too long ago and quite enjoyed it. Such an oddball series.
     
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  10. lightbane Arcane

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    They're one of the few JRPGs worth playing... But we're barely getting them out of Japan.
     
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  11. Karhu Friendliest person around Patron

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    Finished the recently leaked WIP translation of Metal Max 2: Reloaded, definitely the best game out of the first three.
    Ted is great (open)

    Look forward to the upcoming official unofficial(?) release.
     
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  12. reversependulum Novice

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    When is Metal Max 2 Reloaded English translation going to be released.

    This game is up there with or even better than Final Fantasy V with the gameplay customization and one of the best boss battle theme.
     
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  13. Amurada Novice

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    that's a helluva pitch. is the customization specific to the DS remake; or is it just as present in the SNES version?
     
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