MMOs died out?

[kreight]

MMOs gonna be resurrected?

They never died.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

Can I be hired and just do nothing? Get paid? That's how I feel MMOs are. That's what I feel google employees do. Hit axbutton and let the alorithms do the rest. Go digital jobs.

 

[J1M]

Can I be hired and just do nothing? Get paid? That's how I feel MMOs are. That's what I feel google employees do. Hit axbutton and let the alorithms do the rest. Go digital jobs.

You forgot about the other 50% of the output of tech workers: status updates to the executives about when they will hit the button.

 

[kreight]

If we are talking about anerican MMOs with huuuuge budgets, then yes, they are no more. The last were SWTOR and TES online. Hundreds of millions spent on development.

Other MMOs live on. I mean I heard that old Lord of the Rings MMO was going to get a visual upgrade. How old is it? Amazon is building at least 2 new MMOS. One is The New World. Another is Lord of the Rings MMO. Saying MMOs are dead is utter nonsense and ppl should stop muttering it.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

Amazon? Lordy.

 

[Ranselknulf]

Amazon? Lordy.

Wait until MMORPG mechanics are applied to your job. Oh, wait...


https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/22/...e-working-conditions-gamification-video-games

Amazon turns warehouse tasks into video games to make work ‘fun’

Conditions in Amazon’s warehouses are notoriously grueling, but the company has a new tactic it thinks will make employees’ lives easier: turn work into a video game.

As detailed in a new report from The Washington Post, Amazon has started installing screens next to workers’ stations that feature simple games with names like PicksInSpace, Mission Racer, and CastleCrafter. Their physical actions, assembling orders and moving items, are translated into virtual in-game moves. So, the faster someone picks items and places them in a box, for example, the faster their car will move around a virtual track.

The games are intended to make work less tedious, but also encourage higher productivity by pitting workers against one another in the virtual game world.

The games are voluntary and have so far been installed in five warehouses in the US and the UK, reports the Post. In at least one facility, managers reward workers who achieve high scores with Amazon “swag bucks.” This is a company currency that workers can only exchange for Amazon-branded merchandise, like t-shirts and water bottles.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

This is giving me Black Mirror vibes (the netflix show). Maybe amazon should award casino credits in the Amazon casino. Give em a chance to cash out in amazon cash for purchases. (Of course if its like a lot of casino shit games... the house will annihilate you.

hackity hack gamble on crack.

 

[Norfleet]

Wait until MMORPG mechanics are applied to your job. Oh, wait...

MMORPGs are work mechanics applied to your game:

 

[kreight]

oh so you are a sucker for those "god old times when MMOs didn't have grind". Yeah riiight.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

Some were only about the grind (bardstale, might & magic, every goldbox title, early ssi games, early dragon warrior (quest), ultima 1-3, wizardry series, etc etc -- combat was the bread and butter... grind grind grind. Far too many JRPGs that i played were very similar (there weren't many i had access to but the ones i did... ouch Dragon warrior 1-2, phantasy star 2-3, lunar silver star).

 

[Norfleet]

oh so you are a sucker for those "god old times when MMOs didn't have grind". Yeah riiight.

Heh, yes, the modern MMO actually is casualized and consists of far LESS grind than before. In the old days, spending 20 hours a day grinding was NORMAL, whereas today, they accuse you of being a robot if you're oldschool enough to stomach it.

 

[kreight]

You don't have to grind in an MMO. You just don't. You should be able to finish the good part of the story without the grind. And if you want more, you can hop in from time to time. No one forces you to take another job.

 

[[UCHIHA]XxDarkSasuke420xX]

WoW is kinda fun for about 2 weeks every two or so years, but after the first two weeks of an xpac it becomes "speedrun the same 8 instances over and over again forever" mouse trap
TESO is in many ways better than any game bethesda has ever made, but still bad
EVE is probably the best MMO ever but if you have a life you can't play it
OSRS has good music and cute aesthetic

 

[Caim]

WoW is kinda fun for about 2 weeks every two or so years, but after the first two weeks of an xpac it becomes "speedrun the same 8 instances over and over again forever" mouse trap
TESO is in many ways better than any game bethesda has ever made, but still bad
EVE is probably the best MMO ever but if you have a life you can't play it
OSRS has good music and cute aesthetic

If you treat WoW as an RPG that keeps getting expansions and only play with one month of playtime every expansion you'll get everything there is to see.
OSRS can be fun but you have to be mindful of all the bots.

 

[Delterius]

oh so you are a sucker for those "god old times when MMOs didn't have grind". Yeah riiight.

Heh, yes, the modern MMO actually is casualized and consists of far LESS grind than before. In the old days, spending 20 hours a day grinding was NORMAL, whereas today, they accuse you of being a robot if you're oldschool enough to stomach it.

just play a korean mmo bro

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

I played aion back in the day for the music and scenery and crafting. On one alt I never fought and ran around only in one of the detection hats looking for plants, minerals, etc to collect and random shit people didn't pick up. I tried to hire out as a tour guide. I found the buggy entrance to parts of starter area Poeta where you couldn't die even by drowing (got stuck underwater one time). I did the same thing in early PWI. Problem is.... eventually you can't gather or craft because your actual level has to be xyz else you won't skill up. Gay. After that i stopped playing. Couldn't get into others.

 

[ADL]

MMOs gonna be resurrected?

Great, another WoW clone straight from nuBlizzard 2.0 made by nuBlizzard veterans. Just the shot of adrenaline this stagnant fucking genre needed.

 

[HeyCheckOutHowHardICanPee]

just play a korean mmo bro

Modern day korean mmos don't even let you grind, they limit your playtime with either dailies or some shitty stamina meter.

 

[Norfleet]

You don't have to grind in an MMO. You just don't. You should be able to finish the good part of the story without the grind.

MMO. Story. Is this some sort of joke I'm too oldschool to understand? Story in an MMO is like plot in a porno. You expect it to be there, but it isn't important to the action.

And if you want more, you can hop in from time to time. No one forces you to take another job.

See, this fundamental disconnect in attitudes is why they keep complaining I'm a robot. When I take on a game, I EXPECT IT TO FUNCTION AS A JOB.

No, the entire point of classic MMO play is that you grind for no other reason than to grind, merely to increase your numbers. That, or murder people. But direct PKing has been largely subsumed by "PvP", which has in turn become unpopular due to the progressional nature of persistent play, so competitive play tends to be channeled into the auction house.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

Are there still aggressive PK games where you can hunt noobs and shit or gank others with your krew of killers or become lord of the server and outright PK ASSHOLE LORD?

I tried one and was ganked a lot. I found it fucking hilarious tbh rather than butthurt. I mean there was a survival thrill and the chance to try to gank another. You lose tgat in this pvp challenge thing where you accept/or decline the "!" And then there's the perma death servers... or was. Dunno now.

 

[luj1]

What happened with Pantheon lol

maybe you know? anvi

 

[ADL]

What happened with Pantheon lol

maybe you know? anvi

I've heard it's going surprisingly well without Brad around. Hope it turns out good. The footage I saw looked decent enough for an EQ1 successor.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

Are there still aggressive PK games where you can hunt noobs and shit or gank others with your krew of killers or become lord of the server and outright PK ASSHOLE LORD?

I tried one and was ganked a lot. I found it fucking hilarious tbh rather than butthurt. I mean there was a survival thrill and the chance to try to gank another. You lose tgat in this pvp challenge thing where you accept/or decline the "!" And then there's the perma death servers... or was. Dunno now.

eve online.
you can potentially be ganked even in the tutorial system.

 

[Norfleet]

Yeah, Eve is basically the game that got away. It's the game I would have played, if it hadn't cost money and now it's a bit too late to be joining as the game is now too entrenched to make an attack on.

But it's basically a living dinosaur of a bygone age: Such a game would be very hard to make and find an audience for today, since there's now a fundamental trend where a playerbase that murders itself off eventually is left with only the few hardcore remnants of the original base, with little room for growth.

 

[kreight]

There is plenty of "survival MMOs" like Conan, Ark, Last Oasis, etc. Oasis is particularly known for some harsh pvp shit.