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Morrowind defiling continues - Skywind

Sigourn

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A pointless remake for an audience that will forget about it rather quickly.
 

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Skyrim's biggest problems by far were stupid quest design, quest lines and the plot, which unfortunately are unfixable, even by Requiem.
Plot and setting on the other hand are Morrowind's greatest strengths and this remake won't change that.

Also, those Dev videos are legit impressive with the amount of work they've put in. Morroblivion looks like crap, but I don't get the same feeling here. Quite the opposite actually. The new tech they have could create a pretty interesting experiences in the game. See this Ash Storm for example:


Assuming they can implement underwater combat and levitation, I see no reason not to try it out.

The big question is, can they set the challenge curve just right or will they chicken out and make it as easy as Skyrim? ARPG that is too easy is just pointless. Requiem style approach would work really well in VVardenfell, because areas with high level content can easily be designated and the players should be aware of them beforehand. Daedric Ruins and the like, as well as places like Grazelands where new players practically never go.

Next TES is pretty far away, so if they can release it within 2 years, Skywind might get a pretty big audience.
 

Rahdulan

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A pointless remake for an audience that will forget about it rather quickly.

I agree, it's going to be a novelty for a while but that's it considering the attention span of the audience it's being made for. These people should just join Tamriel Rebuilt so that gets completed at some point in my goddamn lifetime. :|
 

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I agree, it's going to be a novelty for a while but that's it considering the attention span of the audience it's being made for. These people should just join Tamriel Rebuilt so that gets completed at some point in my goddamn lifetime. :|

That, or help with OpenMW/make awesome graphic mods for Morrowind.
 

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I agree, it's going to be a novelty for a while but that's it considering the attention span of the audience it's being made for. These people should just join Tamriel Rebuilt so that gets completed at some point in my goddamn lifetime. :|

That, or help with OpenMW/make awesome graphic mods for Morrowind.

Every once in a while I wonder what's the better way to go - recreate the content in a new engine or create a new engine preserving the content. Both can take ages to complete (and might well turn out pointless) but also require a very different set of abilities.
In case of Skywind, imo a lot depends on whether they can recreate the missing mechanics from Morrowind in the Skyrim engine, esp. the more elaborate magic system.
Gotta hand it to them though, their maps and this Ashstorm vid look pretty good.
 

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New Video out.
 

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Too much graphics/presentation whoring without much mention of gameplay. My interest in this would instantly be killed if the game features Skyrim's garbage systems. Not that Morrowind's is a whole world better, but it's at least engaging.

Either way, it's an impressive effort.
 

Sigourn

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Too much graphics/presentation whoring without much mention of gameplay. My interest in this would instantly be killed if the game features Skyrim's garbage systems. Not that Morrowind's is a whole world better, but it's at least engaging.

Either way, it's an impressive effort.

I think it is a given, friend. There's a reason they hide it so much.

I've said it on 4chan's /tesg/: Skywind will be Morrowind Screenshot Simulator and nothing else.
 

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[audible chuckle]
 

Rahdulan

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Someone started lifting.
 

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So... Will NPC's give us some verbal directions of quests/dungeons/dverme boxes or will we have quest compass. If the latter, then all people here who are fapping over this title are graphic whores.

I mean Skyrim UI is bad but I can bare this, but quest compass and dialogues are shiiiiit.
 

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So... Will NPC's give us some verbal directions of quests/dungeons/dverme boxes or will we have quest compass. If the latter, then all people here who are fapping over this title are graphic whores.

I mean Skyrim UI is bad but I can bare this, but quest compass and dialogues are shiiiiit.

They are literally getting rid of Morrowind's combat/spell mechanics, and making this mod solely to introduce it to a new gayneration of gaymers, so why in the hell would they not add quest compasses when it means tons of voiced dialogue you can skip.
 

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So... Will NPC's give us some verbal directions of quests/dungeons/dverme boxes or will we have quest compass. If the latter, then all people here who are fapping over this title are graphic whores.

I mean Skyrim UI is bad but I can bare this, but quest compass and dialogues are shiiiiit.

You can turn off quest markers and even entire compass in Skyrim, sure the game is unplayable because no one gives you any directions but in Skywind the original dialogue will be intact so it shouldn't be a problem.
 

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Plot and setting on the other hand are Morrowind's greatest strengths and this remake won't change that.

That's the truth. The theme in Morrowind is drawing the line between God and Man. The 'villains' in the game are demigod status mortals who gained their power basically through labor. They become so powerful that a huge portion of the continent worships them as true gods. You follow the path of these demigods and build yourself up from weakling nobody to being worshiped as Nerevarine. Because of the initial difficulty in the game combined with the massive world cluttered with complex and interesting factions, finally reaching that status is rewarding. You don't feel like you were born a god but rather you achieved god status through hard work.

Everything in the game is built upon that theme and this is what makes Morrowind great. Not the big mushrooms or alien landscapes or whatever the hell else other people talk about.

I don't understand why these people are wasting so much time remaking it solely for the purpose of updating graphics (which will be obsolete by the time skywind releases anyway) when graphics are the least important part of the game. I think a lot will be lost in translation.
 
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The 'villains' in the game are demigod status mortals who gained their power basically through labor. They become so powerful that a huge portion of the continent worships them as true gods.


The Tribunal were worshiped as gods because they used Keening, Sunder and Wraithguard to commune with the Heart of Lorkhan. It granted them enough power that they could basically say 'Frak you' to the Daedras' machinations on the physical plane, but came with a price. Every once in a great while they had to repeat the ritual to renew them. Dagoth Ur and his minions eventually swiped Keening and Sunder, resulting in Vivec and company growing progressively weaker. The Tribunal hid all of this from their followers.



Make no mistake, each member of the Tribunal is still among the most powerful beings on the planet. Only a few approach their level in-game; Divayth Fyr, Hircine's various avatars, etc. Each of them lived for millenia improving their skills, magic and knowledge. But they were no longer capable of feats like Vivec freezing a chunk of the moon in place because Dagon threw it at him.
 
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