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Myth: A New Age CYOA

Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by Fangshi, Jan 15, 2014.

  1. Nevill Arcane

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    No, what I meant is to take out the gate immediately, and then, if he does not kill Lyssa outright, tell him to drop it, or else.

    He knows we are not screwing around, and I'd really rather die here than let him out.

    Oh, and if he does make a rash move, we have a pair of gloves and an archmage waiting for us in the physical world.

    No doubt Mazzarin would know about Lyssa through the tracking device and come to check on us. That may be a lie, but it should be effective, given how afraid TFM is of the man.

    Can C play out like this?

    He is not the Soulblighter, he thinks before he does. And from what I am seeing, messing with us only has downsides. He could try it anyway out of spite, but he is smarter than that, and that's what I count on.

    Voting C for now.
     
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  3. Fangshi Arcane

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    Sure. It can play out like that.

    Though you are relying on him keeping a level head.

    If he snaps he will simply kill Lyssa. It would take like three seconds to pop her head off. :lol:
     
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  4. Nevill Arcane

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    Guys, he is trying to manipulate you. Don't let him leave.

    He offers us a way out that lets us keep everything at a small cost of freeing him, but that's what he does. What he always did. In Nine's mind, or just an update ago.

    Once he does not need us, we'll end up his slaves. Do not trust his word, please. Nine warned us about it, Mazzarin warned us about it, and we should know better by now.

    Just don't go with what he offers, don't fall for his promises. This is the most stupid thing Derryth could ever do.
     
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  5. Nevill Arcane

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    I'll better risk Lyssa than Lyssa, ourselves and the world.

    Shouting Mazzarin's name takes one second, and that one might keep him thinking.

    Simply state 'Mazzarin likes Lyssa enough to give her a tracking device' matter-of-factly to remind him it's not about just us, turn around and kill the creature.

    Or maybe D is the way to go. Though didn't we free enough demigods already?
     
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  6. Nevill Arcane

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    Fangshi, if we go with D, can we get out before the fight between TFM and the creature reaches it's conclusion? How long freeing it would take? What would prevent TFM from running out of there without engaging?

    Or does freeing the creature destoy the power supply and the gate ceases to function?

    Can we return to our bodies immediately once the fight starts, then?
     
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  7. Grimgravy Augur Patron

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    Not interested in fighting Faceless Man alone. Could be swayed to D, E, or F.
     
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  8. Fangshi Arcane

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    Possibly. Once you free the creature the power source for the Oneiroi spells will be gone (or more accurately it will be free to do what it wants). You should be able to try and find your bodies once that happens (provided the creature drops the spells).

    You have time to do it before he crosses.

    The gate will be closed and there is an army upstairs. He could still try to escape but the only place he has left to go after the gate closes is back to the bracelets.

    Freeing the creature should cut power to the gate. Provided the creature wants to cut power to the gate. It should be immediate but you can not be sure.

    You need to focus to return to your bodies. It might take a minute or two if you have trouble concentrating, same goes for your companions.
     
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  9. Nevill Arcane

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    We can't fight him, and he can't fight us if the gate is down for any reason.

    We can't because he is more powerful, and he can't because without us he is just a junk item.

    There won't be a fight between us.

    But the more I think about it, the more I warm up to D.

    The creature might lash at us, though, so that's a risk, too. Or it can let the army in. But then TFM would have to protect us... maybe?

    I don't think the creature can win, but maybe it can keep us occupied long enough to talk some sense into the archmage. If he kills it, we are back at C. If he doesn't and the creature wins, though... well, wouldn't you want to know what happens then?

    Let's make it C>D.
     
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  10. Zero Credibility Arcane

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    Fucking hell, this guy is such a pest.

    I too do not want to release him if there is any other option, this guy is a snake. Trying to think of something clever to do and I'm coming up blank. If we try releasing the creature and it attacks him, will he still be able to kill the hostage? Not only do I not want to sacrifice our party members, we also don't know what the effect will one of us dying have on the rest with those toys still on us. Maybe attacking the portal could work, it sounds like all we need to is one good roll and he is done for. Of course, failing it would be really, really bad.
     
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  11. Nevill Arcane

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    If we release the creature, he'll be busy, I think. Busy either trying to protect himself or us. That is one upside of D.

    The downside should be pretty obvious.

    Trying to destroy the gate while he goes through it has a great chance of failure, and we can not afford failure - our fate is going to be even worse for it.
     
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  12. Kz3r0 Arcane

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    Fangshi how quickly we can destroy the body of theguardswoman, will this prevent him to pass through the gate?
     
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  13. Zero Credibility Arcane

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    Can we talk to the creature without TFM hearing us? Maybe we could release it but tell it "drop the gate spell when he is inside it" while we are doing so. The creature should have finer control over when the spell ends than we could by attacking the gate, and if it fails it wasn't us directly trying to kill the guy. If the creature doesn't listen to us and attacks immediately we would still be no worse than we would be in D. Maybe?
     
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  14. Nevill Arcane

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    Thinking about it even further, D can play out in a variety of ways, depending on whether or not GM and his dice are in a sadistic mood. There are things to consider, though:

    - First, it needs the creature to listen to us and drop the spell. The good signs are that this spirit is more intelligent and more reasonable than its brethren. He is also more calm - he stoically accepts his fate instead of threatening the ones he initially thought to be his captors. He also does not appear to be deceptive, since one of the things he asks for is death. As far as we know, these creatures have no business in our world - it's the Oneiroi that tried to invade theirs, so there seem to be no reason for them to keep the gate open. There are indications that this part of the plan will work. Not a guarantee, but better than nothing.

    Or the creature can let TFM go, since it would be the safest way to get rid of him. Then we are in deep shit.

    - TFM can't afford to kill the creature if he wants his freedom. So he is at a disadvantage there.

    - Shutting the gate that way lacks the air of finality that destroying it has. He might think he can bargain Lyssa's life for the way back with us if we tell the creature to raise the spell again. He can't, but as long as he thinks it will work, he'll keep her alive. That grants us enough time to remind him how stupid it is to kill a necklace bearer when Mazzarin is out there and TFM is still a pair of bracers. Or he might think about subjugating the creature, but in that case making us into definite enemies is unwise, too. If he kills us and fails to deal with the spirit, he is stuck here or worse. If he does not kill us, we can destroy the gate, and then he is stuck. There is a reason to keep the hostage, as not all is yet lost for him.

    - Finally, if there is a battle, we can hopefully affect its outcome, depending on whom we want to help. And yes, there is a chance that we want TFM to win that one.

    I think I'll flop to D.

    I thought that was the point of D. And I doubt TFM will not be able to link his threat and us releasing the prisoner immediately afterwards. It would be obvious what and why we did.

    I thought it's her blood and guts around his heck that fool the spell.

    Edit: I was mistaken. She is dying, but not dead. But why kill her instead of destroying the gate? Isn't it going to produce the same effect - no living body for TFM to return to?

    Kz3r0, what is the plan you are thinking of?
     
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  15. Kz3r0 Arcane

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    Her body is the key to pass though the portal, no body no key, futhermore even if would be possible to pass through the gate he needs her alive to have a body to host him, in short, killing her probably would be enough to destroy his plan.
    We should first shout to him "Remember Mazzarin if you kill Lyssa" and then kill the guardswoman, possibly with a spell that will destroy her body.
     
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  16. Nevill Arcane

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    But how is it technically different from killing the creature in C?

    It destroys his plan in the same way - he can't return to the physical body.

    Edit: Oh, nevermind, I am being stupid. The creature stays alive.

    ...Ok, so why do we need it alive?
     
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  17. Kz3r0 Arcane

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    If we deprive the Faceless Man of his host that's enough to make him reasonable and this is why takes priority, itìs quicker and safer, I don't really know how fast freeing or killing the creature would be, besides I would like to freeing it.
     
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  18. Kz3r0 Arcane

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    All right guys here is my plan:
    G)Blow off the head of the Guardswoman and push The Faceless Man through the gate.

    The reasons for this plan are:
    -We deprive him of his host, seems he neeeds her alive, this makes his plan utterly fail.
    -It's the less risky option, we are not sure if we can surely destroy him by destroying or depowering the portal when he is in there.
    -We are even less sure that the creature can defeat him, it has been enslaved by lesser mages after all.
    -If we push him through the gate after killing his host, or better, at the same time we almost surely will destroy him, throughout the LP we have seen that even the most powerful archmage, Mazzarin, needed a physical connection to this world, sending him through the portal with no host will probably annihilate him, in fact:
    Fangshi Do we know, or have a reasonable certainty that if he passes through the portal with a not suitable host that will destroy him?
    Also, do we have a spell thatcan both kill the guardswoman and send him through the gate?
    If not, is possible to kill the guardswoman when he is passing through causing him to be trapped and destroyed?
     
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  19. Zero Credibility Arcane

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    I'm not sure. Will killing the guard outright do anything to stop him, or is it just her blood and guts on him that is important? It seems like an awful gamble for him to take if she absolutely need to be alive - he eviscerates her, then wastes time talking to us while she is dying? What if she died during his speech? He'd be fucked.
     
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  20. Kz3r0 Arcane

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    He needs a host, a living host for when he is on the other side, her function as a key is less important.
    And probably he is keeping her alive with his magic, this is why we should go for the most destructive spell as possible.
     
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  21. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    This guy has the right attitude. Indifferent to us so long as we don't get in his way. I can deal with that. Even if he wants to turn us into servants or whatever, he sounds like he'll still give us good instruction. Why can't we be friends? So he threatens to kill useless Lyssa, so what? If he takes over the fallen officer it'll be another woman to add to the lesbomancy trio.

    I'd be willing to release a thousand fallen lords so long as they don't mess with us. Moar power, and survival. That's all that's important.

    I don't trust this creature thing. It's shifty. Better kill it.

    A>B>E>F>C>D
     
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  22. Nevill Arcane

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    If we have time to free it, we have time to kill it.
    But I'll wait for the GM's answers, though.
     
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  23. Jester Arbiter

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    B she is a friend to all magical things.
     
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  24. archaen Arbiter Patron

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    How about you let faceless through, free the creature and shove him through the gate after telling him his freedom is dependent on taking the body from faceless? While they are fighting all three get back to the physical and try to strike the body down as they are fighting for control. Worse case scenario one or the other wins and levels the area. Medium case scenario, their minds combine and a new insane fallen lord come out and escapes. Best case we kill two archmages with one assault spell.
     
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  25. Nevill Arcane

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    The spiritual creatures likely can't go in the physical world.

    How do you shove it through the gate? Where would it end up?

    How would it even go through the gate that is powered by it being here? That's like telling Nine to jump out of her own mindscape.
     
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