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Myth: A New Age CYOA

Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by Fangshi, Jan 15, 2014.

  1. Nevill Arcane

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    Nah, I'd rather we break them and bury them. They are fanatics and I don't think you can trust anyone who've been doing what they did.

    At least Lyssa is really regretful about her past. These guys, not so much.

    Just what was the demon we've freed, Fangshi? What does Lyssa know about it?
     
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  2. Fangshi Arcane

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    Thank you the first draft was not to my liking so I threw it out and started over again. Then the second draft was not much better so I threw that out and started over again. I mean it is only 3 o'clock in the morning here. Sleep is overrated anyway... :lol:

    Going to make myself a pot of coffee and wait for the sun to come up...

    Lyssa thinks that it was one of the three princes that rule this part of the Dreaming. If it was it was either Morpheus, Phobetor, or Phantasos. It would most likely have been Morpheus since he specializes in humanity.

    She could be wrong of course but that is what she believes.

    They lost three quarters of their numbers between the dead and the wounded. 3/4 wounded to 1/4 dead.

    They probably lost 1/5 of the overall organization in casualties and they will be operating at half strength for a while. But those are the risks of the business, Ceannard does not hold any of that against you.
     
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  3. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    Nice update. A shame we couldn't talk to the Faceless (Wo)man. Would be entertaining. Overall this went pretty well I'd say. Also, we've made a friend of the Faceless Man! Another to add to the collection!

    B>C
    I don't like her. Enslaving her spirit would be pretty cool though and useful.

    E>C>B>A

    Would using mental spells on these guys stop us from doing anything with the Pathfinders/The Dwarf King?

    Edit: I don't want to waste time on these guys. Let's go for quick and brutal torture mental and physical

    E>A>D
    Kill them. Yet if we break them with mental spells with our interrogation, perhaps we could have made them our mental servants through conditioning?

    Edit: New option! They're horrible, evil men, who are horrible and evil. They should make up their debt to society by serving us unquestioningly and without fail. It's a good experimental technique to create an army of cannon fodder as well. Who needs necromancy when you can enslave nations with mind powers?
     
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  4. Nevill Arcane

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    How bad were casualties among the Arrows? How well the operation went, all things considered?

    Did we do more help than harm with trying to unravel those spells?
    What is the Dreaming? I am not well-versed in Myth lore.
     
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  5. Fangshi Arcane

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    You could try to do both but you increase the chance of accidentally killing them by straining both their minds and bodies too much. There would also be the problem of coordinating the 'sessions' with Bari but I can add it as an option.

    If you want I can add it as an option.

    They lost three quarters of their numbers between the dead and the wounded. 3/4 wounded to 1/4 dead.

    They probably lost 1/5 of the overall organization in casualties and they will be operating at half strength for a while. But those are the risks of the business, Ceannard does not hold any of that against you.

    Depends what you mean in particular. If you had no gone in it would have been a more standard dungeon, if you made good choices you could have minimized casualties perhaps or they could have been even higher. It was possible to get the Arrows killed to a man here. There are simply too many variables to answer such a broad question.

    It would not help you if you were. Bungie's early settings were great because they just give you the bare bones and let you run wild with them. Sometimes less is more when running a campaign. It is one of the reasons I don't much like Forgotten Realms as a setting. There is too much written about it.

    The Dreaming like all the other planes of existence is something I invented entirely (though there are plenty of parts in it stolen from other works or myth and folklore in general).
     
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  6. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    I meant, since the mental spells would take a longer time to work properly, would we be missing out on any other opportunities that might spring up, such as whatever the Dwarf King has planned for us?

    Yes please
     
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  7. Nevill Arcane

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    It looks like most casualties the Arrows took was from the Oneiroi's 'master'. What the hell was that thing, anyway? What triggered it's awakening, and could it have been avoided?

    Basically, did we make things better or worse with our little stunt?
    What I'd like to know is 1) will we be meeting the daemon prince again and what is required to do so (not that it would be too smart, but we might want to down the road) 2) what happens with the Dreaming if you kill it, what role does the creature play in its 'ecosystem', so to speak 3) does this thing affect our dreams (or can be communicated to through them) in any way 4) what happens with the Fort the Oneiroi built from the souls of all those people.

    It looks like we've made an 'ally' there as well, so I am naturally interested in how it can be used further.

    I assume our oath does not extend to our future dealings, however?
     
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  8. Kipeci Magister

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    I think I'll go with CEE, fantastic update!
     
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  9. asxetos Augur

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    EE is terribly out of character...
     
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  10. Nevill Arcane

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    You should gift them to Albrecht, then, because working the debt off to the society has nothing to do with us.

    Also, :lol: at rationalisation.

    As for the choices, contemplating between 2A with a twist that you will test their spells on them first so you don't get Melete killed, and 2C.

    We didn't mind Bari's work back in the first chapter, but we didn't want to be a part of it either. So I'll go with C C>F A>B. Extract what you need from them, keep your own hands clean and, most importantly, free, and execute or otherwise get rid of them permanently.
     
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  11. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    Why? Isn't it more humane than killing someone?

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    The Corps is mother, the Corps is father.

    We've tried to avoid killing folk, but we've not been adverse to torture in the past. Nor have we been adverse to mindfuckery. It's not out of character if the option is available anyway, Fangshi has stated that he won't offer options if we've become too set in our ways. For instance I don't think he'd ever offer us the option to backstab a companion in good standing.

    I see us as a representative of the communal good. What's good for us is good for society. We're trying to become Empress of the World, right?
     
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  12. Zero Credibility Arcane

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    Well, it's over and we are all still alive (except for some of the Arrows). That's as good an end as any other. If I may ask, what were our chances of taking him out with the gate? Or him not noticing it if we fail?

    1 C - sure, why not. The braces are useless without a spirit in them and we could use a bit of an edge the next time we do something really stupid. Like in that fight with the necromancers that would have gotten some of us killed without the braces. The fact that it also serves as a kind of a mercy means our new occupant will actually be grateful.

    2 A - the easiest method by far. I really doubt they would try anything funny in this situation. Also, don't we have the book? Or is a knowledge like this one too specific for it? But we should promise them their lives, not freedom, because...

    3 B
    - yeah, have the Pathfinders imprison them.

    edit: Adding some conditionals.

    2 A > D > F > B

    A and D because I want to get this over quickly, F because if we use the book we at least won't have to be there personally the whole time, and B if we really, really have to waste all this time while other things are going on. And I hope our inventor doesn't die while we are doing that.
     
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  13. Fangshi Arcane

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    Not really, no. As long as you are still in town you will be included in the King's plans.

    Your prisoners will be held in a secure facility for as long as needed. The biggest difference will be how quickly you get Meletē back on her feet and how high the risk is to the prisoners.

    Added.

    Some sort of otherworldly horror or halfbreed probably. Otto and three other Arrows were the only people that saw it (and lived) besides the Oneiroi and the Faceless Man. The Faceless Man also did not leave much of it left to analyze.

    It woke up because the Oneiroi completed the ritual to wake it up. It could have been avoided by stopping the ritual somehow.

    You might, you might not. Depends if you want to go wandering in the Dreaming again looking for him. To find him you would have to enter the plane with your conscious mind and then figure out where he lives/hunts/plays/etc.

    Lyssa does not know as it has never happened before (that she is aware of). Maybe another creature is elevated to the role. Maybe that part of the Dreaming runs wild or disappears entirely. It is fairly safe to say that he is important though.

    If dreaming were gambling then this guy owns the casino.

    The creatures will likely try to destroy it over time, they really do not like it. Whether they will succeed or not, you don't know.

    You have his interest certainly.

    Correct. If you meet him again the oath will not shield you.

    The way I see it is that Derryth is already fine with torturing and killing enemies (Miosguinn for example), she also does not really have a problem with using people that she views as enemies. Add that to a mage's natural tendencies and I think it should still work for the character. These people wronged her, she does have a mean streak in her and a slight tendency to abuse power...

    Not saying that EE would not shift her a little, it might, it will depend on what she does with them really.

    Thanks. :salute:
     
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  14. Nevill Arcane

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    Well, I know what I would have tried. Screw with my captors as much as possible - by giving false instructions, most likely, because after all they had done and an attempt on our lives to boot, they will never believe they can get alive out of this, let alone free. Can't blame them.
     
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  15. Zero Credibility Arcane

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    The alternative is death. And remember we do have the book, so we can test to see if they are really cooperating or trying anything funny, the book should say that much. Really, why bother with magic or torture when you can just ask them and you will know if they are lying or not just by making them hold the book?
     
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  16. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    EE is a fitting justice. They literally took the souls of their victims and transformed them into the brick and mortar of a fortress which they used to then capture and enslave innocent spirit creatures! (Not that there's anything wrong with that). They also attacked us and hurt Melete. (Our friend?). Justice demands they pay for their horrendous crimes with service!
     
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  17. Fangshi Arcane

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    To hit him with the gate. If Derryth did it 1/10, if the creature did it 1/3.

    If you failed he would feel it unless he was right at the other end when it happened. You had about a 1/5 chance of him not figuring it out.


    Yes you do, and you can use it here if you want to. It will be the slowest method but they also can not lie to it. Added as an option.

    Yes at this point Derryth will not turn on her friends. She would rather die. Just part of the character at this point.

    Your girlfriend's friend's friend. ;)
     
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  18. Zero Credibility Arcane

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    How fast does the book work?

    Also, I'm not voting for the EEeeeeevil option no matter what. It wastes time (don't we have better things to do? personally, I want to go back asap to see how our operation is going on) and all it gives us is a couple (maybe, if they both survive) minions. Fuck that. We already have good mages in our circle that are glad to be there and more to train from our orphans.
     
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  19. Nevill Arcane

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    But Melete is a horrible, horrible person who did not comply with safety regulations. She had it coming, really.

    They are the good guys here, vigilantes carrying out the law when the state couldn't, so I suggest giving them a quick death and be done with it.

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    Those are some shitty odds, considering what was at stake. What would the rolls be if we made the prince and TFM duke it out? And if we did C, would Lyssa be a 100% goner?
     
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  20. Fangshi Arcane

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    I think I said about 100 words a minute.

    Both your prisoners are in their mid 20's.

    It will take a few days at least probably. You will then have to read it, find the part you want and have the book go over that part again to get as much information as possible. So more than a week in all likelihood but you will get the truth eventually.

    I only bring up the time issue because Albrecht is planning to move on his enemies in a day or two. Things might get interesting.

    "If Myrgard can not take a few small fires then clearly it does not deserve to be the Dwarven Capital anyway." - Meletē after a few dozen beers.
     
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  21. Fangshi Arcane

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    The prince could not beat him stuck in that room but he would start pulling out bricks. The more bricks that came loose the stronger the prince would become. At a certain point the odds would tip against the Faceless Man as he can not fight an entire plain of existence. The prince was fighting for time. The Faceless Man had to end it quick. I can not give easy odds on who would win.

    In C he would have killed her nine times out of ten. He would not have really done it out of spite or even on purpose he just would have completely lost it and only the fact that he needs you would have saved you. He would likely have gotten rough with you as well.

    That is all assuming that killing the prince does not collapse that part of the Dreaming and instantly kill you all of course...
     
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  22. asxetos Augur

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    But the Oneiroi were like the mercenary Arrows when we first met them. We had conflicting interests but they were not ideological ones like with Mios. They wanted Melete for the reward, but that ship has sailed now and there is no need for unnecessary violence.
     
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  23. Nevill Arcane

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    Naturally.

    We've just brought an army to their HQ and slaughtered them almost to the last man.

    What makes them think they'll live after they tell you what you want to know? As far as they know, and considering what they did to their victims, death is the best they could hope for.

    A demon in the basement.
    Soul-trapping powers.
    Us responsible for killing what essentially is their god and master and killing most of them off.

    Yeah, no. There is a need for it to end decisively, lest we fancy us or our girls becoming bricks in yet another part of the Dreaming one day.
     
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  24. Zero Credibility Arcane

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    I don't get your point. They will not cooperate out of spite when the alternative is actual death? I really, really doubt that. Only a complete fanatic would do something like that and these are mercs we are talking about here. Their organisation is gone, done for. They are the only survivors - of course they will cooperate, what do you expect them to do? 2A is the quickest option to get from them what we came for in the first place, regardless if we plan on releasing them or not.
     
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  25. Fangshi Arcane

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    The way I would justify it if it happened is as follows:

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    -They were worshipping some sort of dark god, Derryth is not a huge fan of those in general

    -They tried to kill Derryth and Thaïs

    - They were destroying souls to use as building materials

    - They were capturing spirits and killing/torturing them to power their spells

    So they are not that different from Miosguinn really. The only difference is that Miosguinn succeeded in killing a friend of Derryth's and he stole from her. But he had also been a loyal and remarkably trustworthy ally all things considered.


    Derryth will not lose sleep over hurting these people. Though E is of course the most extreme option in both 2 and 3.
     
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