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Myth: A New Age CYOA

Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by Fangshi, Jan 15, 2014.

  1. Jester Arbiter

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    3 - does this demon wants to eat those offerings, or is it something like speed dating stuff with interesting dream and personalities instead?
     
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  2. Sunnmøring Novice

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    The souls are probably going to be just delicious snacks for him, but I wouldn't be against more power considering our dire circumstances.
     
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  3. archaen Arbiter Patron

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    Looks like plans that took time had us ambushed so any of the winning contenders would have had the same result. The good news is that the trap worked and we took out some of their mages. This will make it harder for them to control their horde and we have taken out at least three dispersal dream casters.

    It looks like we might have a Miosguinn situation that we consolidated control of the opposing forces under a competent commander. I don't think we can get brave at this point. We just need to hold on and hope Albrecht gets here sooner rather than later.

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  4. Nevill Arcane

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    That was one hell of an update! I was literally shaken when the Shade came out of hiding. I thought we are going to end up dead for sure, bunched up as we were. I thought maybe we would have to resort to killing somebody before the spell makes its way to them, but it seems Bari had the same idea. He and that nameless kid who sacrificed himself have saved us all.

    "To the madness of the brave, we sing this glory!
    Madness of the brave...
    The wisdom of life!" :salute:

    The Watcher shall pay tenfold for each of our fallen.

    We have to operate under the assumption that Neel, Bari, and another soldier are still alive. Even if they are not, we have to act as if we are. Until all of the opportunities are exhausted, we will not give up on them.

    Incidentally, this means that we might have to dig up the tunnels. Fangshi, I want to ask Myora if the Watcher's stone had any effect on her soldiers and if coating it in metal helped any. I also want to ask her if it is possible to dig around the thing. The tunnels were described as vast enough that we should have a place for maneuver without digging it back up. Make our own tunnels to connect with the rest of the system if need be.

    I would also like to estimate the damage to the tunnel system we did. Was is a localized collapse, of did it have more reaching consequences?

    We should probably bring our Stoneheim forces in. As we did no research on the Gate spell, I would prefer to send them through the tunnels. They will not come into direct contact with the enemy that way, so we don't have to tell them the whole truth and it won't impact their efficiency in any way. Anyone who wants to desert us after we reunite with them and explain the situation fully will be free to do so through the same tunnels they came from.

    If we tell them everything right now, they are more likely to bail on us like Rand did. They do not know us personally, and they are not honorbound to serve us or protect us like the Arrows or the Royal Escort. The truth will only serve to demoralize them and scare them away while they do not yet trust our abilities as a commander.

    Incidentally, the operation was a huge success, though we paid for it dearly. It's strange - we only lost 4 people and 3 more went missing, but the loss feels heavier than when we lost about 20 people fighting the Thin White Mage. It's unfair, if you think about it, but I suppose that's how the human mind works.

    The Watcher, though, lost 12 of his most powerful mages in a matter of hours. And Gullveig needs not worry her pretty dead head about how she would report it to her Master. We will ensure that the only undead thing that will walk away from this is the White Mage - and not for long, too.

    The plan with animal teleportation is out. We will not make contracts with demons, Spider Goddesses, Fallen Lords and their ilk. No matter how much power they promise you, it comes with a price, and it is never worth it in the end. More than that, I am not feeding people, our own people, to that thing. Our circumstances are harsh, even though they have improved substantially after our attack, but who can we sacrifice to improve them? Ceannard and his crew? Our friends? Our escorts? Our soldiers? There is no one else in the fort but our own men that I assume we want to protect. I am surprised the choice is there at all.

    Not to mention the demon have tried to trick you into slavery mere moments after you have saved him in the Dreaming. One does not need enemies if one keeps an ally like this.

    Besides, we do not even need his help. Our plan will just have to be modified to account for this hiccup. We can't bring the animal back, so we will have to settle on retrieving the spell ring only. The animal will die in the explosion, and Lyssa will certainly not be happy, but it is war we are fighting here, and good people are dying - have already died, in fact. If an animal needs to die for one of our own to live, so be it.

    Make sure Lyssa understands.

    Since the animal in question is sent out to die, we can finally lift the self-imposed restriction on how to treat it. We will shatter its tiny mind and program it to suit the single task it has to accomplish. If it is a suicide mission, it matters not if its mind dies before it ventures out of the fort, or after.

    It is not going to be pretty, but it has to be done.

    Find someone unrelated to the mice for that job. We need our mercenary force as well, and call me a hypocrite, but I don't want to kill someone we got to know over this.

    Once we find and condition our assassin, send it after either Gullveig or the White Mage, whoever is available at the time. We'll probably have to entertain them a little to make them look elsewhere while the bomb materializes under their feet. I've got an idea or two for when they will be directing the assault on our keep, which should be distracting enough in itself.

    So it's DBA for me.

    I suppose one 'good' thing about this development is that it frees Lyssa to do her foci crafting, as we can work on modifying the Retrieve Item spell without her.

    I wonder what the hell Albrecht is doing. It's been three days. One would think we would receive if not help (yeah, I know, he has to go through the Assemly of Lords), then at least a message through the eagle we sent - Calaeno, was it?

    For that matter, where is Mazzarin? Did he find the secondary temple? It takes about two to three days for the White Mage to get back to the fort from there, but he didn't yet. If we ever find more birds, we need to send one on a recon mission to the Great Devoid.

    The shade was lying in wait after we defeated the White Mage. The time we spent was irrelevant. The only thing it affected was our inability to return and search for the survivors.

    Well, she is yet to prove her competence. For now, the only thing we know about Gullveig is that she is cautious. Not a bad thing when we need to stall for time.

    It doesn't 'eat' people. It traps them in the Dreaming for its entertainment while their boidies in the real world wither and die.
     
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  5. Azira Arcane Patron

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    I'm for DBA as well. :salute:
     
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  6. Absinthe Prophet

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    1E Conceal themselves and search for Bari and Neel in the tunnels. Considering the tunnels are a perfectly good hiding place, these orders should not be conflicting.

    2 - Fangshi, how much does Myora think is safe to divulge?

    3A
     
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  7. Grimgravy Augur Patron

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  8. Fangshi Arcane

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    RE: the demon's 'guests'

    It is possible that he might eat the minds you send him but you don't think he will. He does not strike you as monstrous in that way and from what Lyssa tells you he would likely merely discard a mind if he found it wanting. (Though that would leave the mind defenseless in a place where there likely are creatures that would devour it.)

    From what you understand he is more of a collector than anything else. When he sees a being he desires he will take her/him/it and bring them to his palaces where it entertains them as its 'guests'. What happens after that is anyone's guess.

    She had to confine the three dwarves that touched it directly as they each tried to attack their fellows and escape with the shard.

    Once it was covered in lead though they seemed to calm down quite a bit and no one that handled the coated rod seemed to show any strange behavior.

    Yes, you could likely dig around the tunnels you collapsed though it would take time as you will be digging through solid rock. You could also try using explosives to blow holes more quickly but that will also increase the odds of you triggering some sort of collapse.

    The tunnel system is vast but she does not know it well (as a maul a lot of those tunnels are simply too small for her to enter), she can not guarantee it but you should be able to connect to other passages in theory. It will take longer than simply digging out the existing tunnels (filled with loose rock) though.

    It was only supposed to be a localized collapse but she has no way of knowing if it did more general damage. She is no expert on tunnels and none of her men know anything about them either so there is no real way to know unless you find something.

    I should probably clarify this a little.

    The demon knows you will not give him anyone you care about (he is not stupid) so he will not ask for them. If you open negotiations with him he would probably be willing to do you a couple favours in exchange for any of the enemy you might capture. If you sent him a necromancer he would likely be happy, if you sent him a cute necromancer he would be very happy, if you sent him a Shade somehow he would be absolutely delighted as he has never had a Shade before. The novelty of it would win you a lot of points.

    If you do choose to work with him though he will likely make requests every now and then. If a young noblewoman catches his eye he might ask you to send her along, that sort of thing.

    So he is not asking for your friends or even your people, now whether or not you believe him is another question entirely.

    Added.

    If you had asked her a few weeks ago she would have said to tell them everything, that they need to know what is going on to best protect themselves and help you.

    However after Jawbone's death and Rand's desertion she is not so sure. She thinks they will stand with you even if you tell them everything but she can not guarantee it as you would be asking a lot.

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    Sunnmøring: CBB
    archaen: ABA
    Nevill: DBA
    Azira: DBA
    Absinthe: ExA
    Grimgravy: DBA

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    A) 1 vote
    B)
    C) 1 vote
    D) 3 votes
    E) 1 vote

    2.
    A)
    B) 5 votes
    C)

    3.
    A) 5 votes
    B) 1 vote



    Current Interlude Vote:

    1. 2 votes
    2. 6 votes

    I will give the interlude vote another eighteen hours or so, in case anyone else wants to vote, then I will start typing it up.
     
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  9. Nevill Arcane

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    Hey! We keep those to ourselves! :rpgcodex:

    Absinthe's 1E is what I had in mind when I ordered our troops to go through the tunnels in 1D. Have them look for our friends while we dig up a path.

    But I assume 1E does not necessarily have us unite our forces, right?

    I want to meet them in person. I am afraid it's the only way to ensure they will fight for us in the decisive moment.

    Alternatively, I think they would be more open to the idea of fighting a Shade if we tell them that we have butchered 4 of them in the last few days, along with a few other archmages.

    I also imagine that if we dig a wide enough tunnel to fit their wagons in, we would be able to sneak our chariots out. As she Shade in charge is a careful fucker, she might be content to direct the siege from the rear. A well-placed and swift strike could go a long way towards victory in that case.

    By the way, Fangshi, what was in those enemy wagons? Lyssa's mice did take a look at them, yes?
     
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  10. Fangshi Arcane

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    That is my understanding yes. In 1.E they will look for your missing allies but you will not bring them into the fort.

    Corpses and suits of armour for the most part but there were also a few large crates that made the mice uneasy. They refused to approach them, they smelt wrong.
     
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  11. Nevill Arcane

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    About the rolls:
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    Now that Derryth have seen the Dream up close, does she think that The Warrior's Mask could protect one from it? A high-CON warrior like Alvis would turn into a Trow equivalent, and the spell does not kill Trow outright. That was the first thing I thought about when we were facing the Shade, but did it occur to her?

    Why didn't the Shade blow himself up on his very own Dream? Was he that far away from his own forces?

    Can a single spell like the Greater Fire/Energy Bolt completely drain us? Is it that powerful?

    What was the difference between Aii and Aiii? What was a modifier we managed to obtain by hiding a trap further (and did we even get it)?

    Was there a chance to take out Gullveig in this manner at any given moment, or it wasn't an option due to her status as a leader and her cautious nature?
     
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  12. asxetos Augur

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    Amazing update.
     
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  13. Absinthe Prophet

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    Voting 2D - as B, but tell them that Neel and Bari should be able to clue them in on the specifics. (Also inform them about the success of our latest trap.)

    I think it would be better if Neel added his vote of confidence while filling them in on the details.
     
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  14. Nevill Arcane

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    Neel is no one important, though. He is not an officer, just an expert tracker. And I am not sure if they need to know about Jawbone's death alongside with most of the melee warriors and Rand's desertion. It might send a wrong message.

    Neel and Bari will likely tell them what they need to know anyway, though being veterans, they might have enough wit not to disclose anything that we didn't tell the other team ourselves.

    A tale of success would bolster their courage, though. I don't know. I would still prefer to fill them in personally, as it is our responsibility as their commander, and the chance of desertion in the presense of their owner and the other officers is less than when there is no one else watching.
     
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  15. Fangshi Arcane

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    RE: rolls

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    Yes, she is aware that it might work provided the target is strong enough. Argus would be your best bet but Myora might also be able to do it. It might be difficult to convince someone to try it though.

    He was far enough away from his men to not get caught in it. Would have been funny though if it had clipped him. :lol:

    They are quite powerful spells and you do not have them mastered yet so it costs you more to cast them and maximize them. You also have no real training in elemental magic to fall back on either, most of what you know in that field is self-taught so that also reduces your ability to use the spell successfully.

    Casting it on your own at maximum strength might not completely exhaust you but your three mages had no way to know if there were any other traps or tricks waiting for them so it seemed prudent to them to conserve their resources.

    By hiding your trap within a trap you cut the number of checks they had to find your bombs by a significant amount. You also made a few of their checks more difficult than they would have otherwise been.

    If you had trapped your trap instead it might have gone the same way or it might have led to different characters dying. Hard to say really.

    Not by trapping the structure. She had no intention of going inside it (it was not her idea, she wanted to try something else) so the odds of doing enough damage to kill her were almost nonexistent.

    She was however traveling with the most dense part of the enemy host. If you had turned the 'cannon' on them, and if it had worked, she would have been one of your prime targets and you might have got her that way.


    Okay, I will add it.


    And just going to move the tallies to the new page:

    Current Tally:

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    Sunnmøring: C,B,B
    archaen: A,B,A
    Nevill: D,B,A, D: Greater Firebolt /T: Greater Energy Bolt
    Azira: D,B,A
    Absinthe: E,D,A, D: Heal / T: Heal
    Grimgravy: D,B,A, D: Energy Bolt / T: Heal
    asxetos: A>D,A,A
    Kz3r0: E,D,B, D: Greater Firebolt / T: Greater Energy Bolt
    Jester: E,D,A, D: Heal / T: Heal

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    C) 1 vote
    D) 3 votes
    E) 3 votes

    2.
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    B) 5 votes
    C)
    D) 3 votes

    3.
    A) 7 votes
    B) 2 votes

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    Derryth:
    Greater Firebolt - 2 votes
    Heal - 2 votes
    Energy Bolt - 1 vote

    Thaïs' Ring:
    Greater Energy Bolt - 2 votes
    Heal - 3 votes


    Interlude Vote:

    Nanshe leads 6 to 2.


    Edit: I had completely forgotten but your rings were returned when you reached the fort so I have added a fourth question in case any of you want particular spells stored in your rings. Better to do it now while you have a chance.
     
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  16. Kz3r0 Arcane

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    1. E)
    2. D)
    3. B)

    4.
    Derryth's Ring: _Greater Fire_____________

    Thaïs' Ring: __/Energy Bolt ___________

    5.A)

     
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  17. Nevill Arcane

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    Well, you don't try these things by choice, that's for sure. :lol:

    It was just a way to save our friends that might come in handy in the future, if nothing else works.

    The reason I was asking is because of this line:
    Did you mean 'without'?

    Whoa, really? After a definitive 'fuck the Spider Goddess' stance you are going to do live sacrifices at the demon's request? Didn't expect that one. :)

    Yeah, these look fine. Sign me up for them as well.

    Does anyone want to consider adding a Heal spell instead now that we are short on mandrake roots?

    Aren't we continuing our experiments with the Retrieve Item spell modified to transport bombs without a line of sight? We might need the rings for that.

    What are we planning to do with our forces in E and how are we going to communicate with them while they are in the tunnels? Because I might just flop to that if I am sure we would treat them as reinforcements and not just like a rescue party.
     
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  18. Absinthe Prophet

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    4 Heal/Heal

    Lets face it, without mandrake roots we're going to need stored heal spells. We can cast more bolts out of our energon cube supply anyhow.
     
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  19. Kz3r0 Arcane

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    It's just business, we trade our enemies in exchange for some benefits, I have no intention to become hie errand tomboy.
     
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  20. Nevill Arcane

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    Hey, I have nothing against throwing necromancers in the deepest Abyss equivalent the world has, but I think you are forgetting who we are dealing with.

    What about that business? Or do you think Derryth justifying her actions with 'it's not like I am actually killing them' is her worrying about the well-being of Shades? :)

    In for a penny, in for a pound. If we don't plan to get in bed with the demons who prey on mortals, to borrow Lyssa's words, we better not even start. They always ask for a pittance in the beginning, and are sometimes willing to pay in advance, but once you use up some of their favors, it becomes that much difficult to refuse them.

    Nanshe and her ghols were trapped in the same way, but there would not be second Derryth and Thais to bail us out once the deal goes wrong.

    I don't mind sending him people that we need to disappear, as it is no different from killing them, but I will not use up his favors in advance in exchange for sending him more people later (as it places us in his debt) and I would never, ever, take requests from him.
     
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  21. Kz3r0 Arcane

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    I agree, besides I would like ro propose him to help us to get rid of TWM, his mind should be prize enough.
    We can also struck a deal with Albrecht, I am sure that he would have uee for an uncospicuous way to make the enemies of the crown disappear.
     
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  22. Nevill Arcane

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    You see, for me there is a difference in trading an undesireable person for a reward, and getting a favor beforehand for promising him something in return later. If we don't get our catch, how are we going to pay up?

    Mortgages are an evil, evil thing. :lol:

    Leaving the whole matter of his complete untrustworthiness aside (he would easily lure you back in the Dreaming if he thought your partnership is no longer worth it - for example, in case you fail to comply with his requests one time too many), I want all of the transactions to happen on our terms, and our terms alone.

    We can't do that while under a siege, and I will not risk our people to capture necromancers or Shades alive to repay him, that's for sure.

    The option is always there for us - we only need to teleport a rat for him to contact us - but I find agreeing to his offer now, when we don't have anything to offer him, to be completely unacceptable.

    No debts. No long-term partnership. Every deal - if there absolutely has to be a deal - may as well be the last.

    Still, outlawyering a demon rarely works, so I expect there to be a catch even then.

    No thank you, I am fed up with being played as a pawn in political games and assisting in mass murders just so that Albrecht's crown sat a little tighter on his head. That's not to say I am going to betray him or anything - I just don't want to be used.
     
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  23. Nevill Arcane

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    Fangshi, while we still have both eagles with us (I presume the letter from Blackrock troops have just arrived), would it be possible for us to arm both of the eagles and take a crack at one of the 'strange' wagons? Arm the rings with something that would not be enough to blast it away completely, but just enough so that its contents became clear. Would the regular firebolt and energy bolts be enough?

    I do not want to risk our eagles or rings, though, so if they can't make a clear shot and run, it would be best for them to just return.

    Is it possible to throw the dice on that one, or are there more factors involved and it has to be put to a vote?

    I imagine they have almost no anti-air capabilities now, the Shade can't be everywhere at once, and the wagons are hard to miss.
     
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  24. Jester Arbiter

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  25. Grimgravy Augur Patron

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    Energy bolt for Derryth
    heal for Thais
     
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