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Myth: A New Age CYOA

Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by Fangshi, Jan 15, 2014.

  1. Fangshi Arcane

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    They are fine with that if you want to send them out. I will add the option to send the Pathfinders and Berty out as Bi.

    Just to make sure I have this right, is that a vote for 1C?




    Slow week it seems.

    To keep things moving I will close the vote in forty eight hours so if you want to vote or ask me any questions you have till then, if not we will go with what we have.

    Current Tally:

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    Nevill:
    1C (Skite, a Blackrock Mercenary, An Arrow, and a Royal Guard), 2A, 3x

    Grimgravy:
    1B, 2A, 3x

    archaen:
    1C (Skite, a Blackrock Mercenary, An Arrow, and a Royal Guard), 2A, 3Bi

    GreyViper:
    1B, 2A, 3Bi

    Kz3r0:
    1B, 2A, 3A

    Azira:
    1A, 2B, 3x

    Jester:
    1C (Thaïs and Uttu), 2A, 3Bi
    1.
    A) 1 vote
    B) 3 votes
    C) 3 votes (2 votes Skite, a Blackrock Mercenary, An Arrow, and a Royal Guard, 1 vote Thaïs and Uttu)

    2.
    A) 6 votes
    B) 1 vote

    3. 3 votes abstain
    A) 1 vote
    B)
    i. 3 votes


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    Updated tally with GreyViper, Kz3r0, Azira and Jester's votes, also added archaen's amendments, archaen's flop and Nevill's changes
     
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  2. Grimgravy Augur Patron

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    No, don't change my vote. That was just DISCUSS! I'm not confident enough for the flop.
     
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  3. GreyViper Erudite

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    Sorry work taking its toll, that's why cant join more often. I really like idea with animals, rodent warfare in its finest.
    My vote.
    1B
    2A
    3Bi

    That reminds me, we must awake our inventor friend soon, so that she could start work on gyro copter and steam engines.
     
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  4. archaen Arbiter Patron

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    Since I am the only one voting for my options:
    Ill change 1.C to include one Blackrock human mercenary and one Arrow mercenary injured but able to speak to verify the story.
    For my 3.Bi we will send them with explosives. If they think the risk is acceptable and the Blackrock command staff agrees, they should blow up the wagons with boxes. They should not engage unless most of their mages are engaged with our forces or otherwise distracted.
     
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  5. Nevill Arcane

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    It just doesn't feel right to part Hámundr and his men. Those are his men, not Argus'. It's would be like going to the King and leaving the girls with Lyssa in the sieged fort. We'd never do that.

    A compromise that I might agree to would be sending one of the Blackrock officers with a Black Arrow and a soldier from the escort to have them all tell a story of what they saw that can be easily cross-referenced. Our Stoneheim troops have at least two officers, so the absense of one should not hit us too hard.

    The drawback, of course, is that we know nothing about them and we have no idea how convincing they would be in the Assembly. They are also nobodies, as far as the Lords are concerned. Still, they might work as witnesses.

    Honestly, the only way I can see it resolved semi-satisfactory is sending Thais to the capital, but I don't want to part with her.

    I also want to keep the airships on hand. They are a useful tactical tool.

    Maybe now that we've received a general to amplify our defensive capabilities, we can hold the Fort by ourselves?

    Fangshi, can we juggle the troops around relatively unnoticed by the enemy? I would not want to give away the fact that we have those Blackrock reinforcements after we've gone through the trouble of concealing them in the tunnels.

    Is the concept of a parachute known to the dwarves? Since they know about flying and all. I think they used something like this during the First War.
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    Do they have any with them and can they manufacture them from the materials we have in the fort?

    Can Lyssa's Strong Wind help us deploying forces that way? Or guide them back to the fort walls if the airship is downed?

    Can we build a Strong Wind powered flying machine? Sort of like this:
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    Or something like an air glider.
     
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  6. Fangshi Arcane

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    Possibly. I mean they will likely be able to see the balloons in the air but they do not have any aerial units (as far as you know) so they do not have the sort of 'clear' view of the surrounding territory that you do.

    Yes they have parachutes. Each one of the dwarves that came in was wearing one (in case they were shot down) so you have a dozen of them. They might be able to make more from canvas but they would be quite makeshift and probably less reliable.

    Depends on what range you are hoping to work at. If they were close enough you could probably have Lyssa direct them to a degree but if they were far out (say near the enemy camp) then she would not be able to do anything from the fort.

    If you wanted to try and build some sort of wind powered glider/flyer you would need Lyssa inside it to keep her spell localized on the machine.
     
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  7. Azira Arcane Patron

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    I'll vote for leaving the fort behind. Just to be contrarian.
    1A
    2B
     
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  8. Nevill Arcane

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    I didn't even know it could work without Lyssa being there with them.

    I was weighing up how safe it would be for our mages to direct an airstrike (to neutralize the enemy mages, as they are the only ones who can shoot down the airship). The main problem was that if we are shot down, we would end up in the middle of the enemy formation. I was searching for ways to go around that.
     
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  9. Jester Arbiter

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    C - Thais and her 'bodyguard' girl.
    A
    BI
     
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  10. Nevill Arcane

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    I'll add my own C - ask either Kaf or Skite (the Stoneheim officers) to testify on our behalf. Have them take one wounded Arrow, one Blackrock mercenary, and one Royal Guard - that is, people who had contact with the enemy. They have all been there during the different stages of the attack (some of them participated in the ghol hunt, some of them - in the liberation of Fort Blackrock, and some others - in the operation against the White Mage), so they will each tell a different part of the whole story from multiple perspectives. Most of them have seen Shades with their own eyes. That must give the story credibility.

    Finally, our officers are from Stoneheim, so maybe that can calm the Lords down some if they report about the happenings there.

    As commanders, we can not leave the forces to give our testimonies. But we can send a letter with them that they speak for us. I take it Skite would be interested enough in a continued existence of his company to make an effort here, not to mention his brother's life would depend on it.

    Besides, if we do not make an appearance, that just shows how grave the situatiuon is, doesn't it?

    The reasoning is that these 4 people are unlikely to make a difference here, but might be able to influence the balance of power back in Myrgard.

    archaen, Grimgravy, Kz3r0, Jester, GreyViper? What's your take?

    Fangshi, who will be there working on the bombs in 3Bi? archaen's plan has only the ones who are not working on them dropped to the tunnels, and the initial goal was to help in Bari's search, first and foremost.

    C (Skite, one of our mercs, an Arrow, and a Royal Guard - with a letter granting them the right to speak on our behalf) > B
    A
    X
     
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  11. archaen Arbiter Patron

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    That's fine, I'll flop.
     
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  12. Nevill Arcane

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    By the way, since the TWM graciously mentioned Gullveig's name in his diary, can we instruct our people to ask the Royal Academy to dig some information on her and send their findings back to us via Calaeno (seriously, where is she?). Her quirks, her spells, her weaknesses, her psychological portrait - anything. They might not find anything of use, or we might not need this information if we blow her up before that, but it might still come in handy, so why not try it unless we have some other things for the royal mages to do?

    Alternatively, we may trust them with TWM's journal... if we think it will not bite us in the ass, what with him mentioning Mazzarin's name and all sorts of things.
     
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  13. Fangshi Arcane

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    Yes you can, if there are no objections you can send a letter to Albrecht asking him to do just that.

    Astrid will stay behind to work on the bombs, she is the only real inventor among your forces anyway. Ori and Berty will go with the Pathfinder officers to search for you missing people and generally harass the enemy should the opportunity present itself.


    Updated Tally:

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    Nevill:
    1C (Skite, a Blackrock Mercenary, An Arrow, and a Royal Guard), 2A, 3x

    Grimgravy:
    1B, 2A, 3x

    archaen:
    1C (Skite, a Blackrock Mercenary, An Arrow, and a Royal Guard), 2A, 3Bi

    GreyViper:
    1B, 2A, 3Bi

    Kz3r0:
    1B, 2A, 3A

    Azira:
    1A, 2B, 3x

    Jester:
    1C (Thaïs and Uttu), 2A, 3Bi

    1.
    A) 1 vote
    B) 3 votes
    C) 3 votes (2 votes Skite, a Blackrock Mercenary, An Arrow, and a Royal Guard, 1 vote Thaïs and Uttu)

    2.
    A) 6 votes
    B) 1 vote

    3. 3 votes abstain
    A) 1 vote
    B)
    i. 3 votes


    Just a reminder that the vote will close in twenty four hours.
     
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  14. Nevill Arcane

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    I can't tell if no one else is interested in the plan, or if no one else actually visits the thread. :|
     
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  15. archaen Arbiter Patron

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    I've noticed if you don't get your plan out there early and generate discuss people don't engage as much. Maybe we will get lucky and get some last minute flops.
     
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  16. Grimgravy Augur Patron

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    For the record, I did see the plan, I wasn't too keen on it.
     
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  17. Fangshi Arcane

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    So it seems there is a tie between 1B and 1C.

    When that is broken I will close the vote, the update will come sixteen to twenty four hours after that depending on when exactly the tie is resolved.

    I will check back in a few hours.
     
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  18. Nevill Arcane

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    Aren't the votes for C counted separately?

    The plan Jester is voting for is radically different from mine and archaen's. Doesn't feel right to bundle them up.

    If it helps resolve the tie, consider me flopping to B, since very few people seem to be interested in splitting up.
     
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  19. Fangshi Arcane

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    Alright then, the vote is closed.


    1B wins, you will all stay.

    2A wins, you will attempt to assassinate the enemy commander by blowing her up.

    3Bi wins, you will send the Pathfinders, Ori and Berty out to look for your people and generally try to cause havoc.

    The update should be ready in about sixteen hours, give or take an hour or two.
     
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  20. Absinthe Prophet

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    Is it too late to vote 1C (Nevill's plan)?
     
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  21. Fangshi Arcane

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    Normally yes, but I have not had a chance to start the update yet or roll anything for it (and I won't have time for a few hours yet) so if you want to vote you can.
     
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  22. Nevill Arcane

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    I don't get it, actually. The enemy forces are camping right outside of their capital. It takes 12 hours for a chariot to move to our fort and back. They could have sent a party of independent scouts ages ago.

    Instead they prefer a week long debates.

    Even if half those Lords were Watcher's spies, the ease with which the siege can be verified makes the inaction of the rest hard to explain.
     
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  23. Fangshi Arcane

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    Sadly Derryth does not know enough about the Lords to know why they seem so unwilling to help. However she is intelligent and paranoid, so with Thaïs' help they have composed a short list of possible reasons why official help has not been forthcoming:

    The most obvious is that at least some of the Lords likely work for the Watcher. Nothing that can be done there really except expose and kill them.

    Then you have more mundane motivations for why someone might want to see you fail/die or might be unwilling to help:

    1. Fear - You have accumulated a great deal of unofficial power through your connection with the King and you are in the process of accumulating even more power through your financial acquisitions. As you have elected not to spend any time with the nobility they are currently unaware of your intentions, so, for some of them it would be expedient to see you both perish.

    2. Jealousy - You are now clearly the King's 'favourites', it is quite possible that the King's old 'favourites' want their unique positions back. If you happen to die then the King will once more have to rely on them.

    3. Greed - If you die all the assets to are pulling to yourself are once more free. There will be one less competitor on the trade routes, one less mercenary company out there and one less 'faction' to worry about. Some might decide it is worth the risk to have you out of the picture.

    4. Stoneheim - Many of the Lords have interests down south in Stoneheim and it is the old capital as well so many of the family crypts are located there. For financial and sentimental reasons some Lords might be willing to let you die to send aid down south.

    5. Revenge? - All of the 'republican' Houses have supposedly been destroyed leaving only the 'royalists' but things might not be that simple. You can not know for sure, as you have spent no time with them, but it is possible that you killed the friends of many of the Lords with your testimony. Some of them might be willing to see you die to 'restore balance'.

    6. Money - Maybe some of the Lords have been bribed.

    7. Threats - Maybe some of the Lords have been compromised in some other way and are being pressured into voting a certain way.

    8. Stupidity? - Some men don't realize the house is burning until they are on fire...

    9. Overconfidence - You have held off the enemy by yourself for a week now. It is possible they think you can manage without them and when coupled with concerns over Stoneheim they may not see you as a 'worthwhile investment'.

    10. Lack of Confidence - It is also possible that some of the Lords do not want to send the army into the field when they can instead try to hide behind the city walls and their own fortress compounds instead.

    11. ????? - The ladies realize they can not plan for every eventuality so there may be other motives at play here as well.

    Now, there is no guarantee that all or even some of these factors are at play but that is how Thaïs and Derryth try to explain the lack of help you have received.



    I will have some time to work on the update in an hour and a half so the polls will close for the final time then. I should be able to have the update out within six hours or so once I have some time to sit down and type.
     
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  24. Absinthe Prophet

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    Voting 1C (Nevill's Plan) then.

    Anyone care to flop to 1C so that we have a better chance of reinforcements coming to bail us out?
     
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