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Myth: A New Age CYOA

Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by Fangshi, Jan 15, 2014.

  1. Nevill Arcane

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    Dumping them out in the real world while we lie unconscious is by no means sane. What is there to stop them from killing us and trying to force their way in Nine's head later? The Arrows? :lol: It is better to not give them such a choice in the first place.

    Also, can our personalities be melded/overridden from the outside while we are inside?
     
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  2. Fangshi Arcane

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    No, from what you can tell it is less an external force that pushes your minds together than an internal force that pulls them together, seeking balance.

    This is all theory mind you but she thinks the natural state of the mind is as a single entity not multiple separate entities. It will take an act of will to keep your mind and those of your colleagues separate and 'unmixed'. If something goes wrong (for example you are 'killed' but resist the illusion of death) you mind will attempt to eject itself to preserve its integrity. It will attempt to jump to any available empty body though it will prefer its 'natural' home.

    A situation could arise however where you can not escape, where you become entangled with another mind or minds. Given no choice they will instinctively seek a balance of sorts. Your mind will fuse with those you are entangled with and Derryth will simply cease to be... for her it is a very unsettling prospect as one might imagine.
     
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  3. Nevill Arcane

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    Enter Derrythais, the magic-slinging courtesan with an attitude. :lol:

    I wonder how the bracers tie into all of this. They try to warn the wielders about dangers and they operate on a mental level. It would be interesting to see if they react to the dangers that can be found inside someone else's mind, or to the dangers of losing one's mind.
     
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  4. Fangshi Arcane

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    That or you wind up as 'Blood Brothers' and have to roll up a new character. No telling what sort of damage that could do really. :lol:

    Shame you did not bother to figure out how they work. Oh well... ;)
     
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  5. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Yeah, D looks like we're straight up asking for trouble. Hence I vote C, with the addendum that we have the Black Arrows watching the apprentice and this 'Mazzarin' in a separate room far away from us.
     
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  6. Fangshi Arcane

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    Sure that is doable. They can guard the two of them down in the cell while you conduct the ritual either back in the meadow or over in the large chamber in the caves if that makes you feel better.

    It would be an interesting twist but it would also be essentially a non standard game over (just so people understand what it would mean mechanically). Derryth would be dead and the creature that results would probably be quite insane and inhuman in most regards.

    You would wind up like Nine only even more fragmented. In her case she does not remember enough while in this case you would remember too much, all at once and in the wrong order.

    It would be the psychological equivalent of this:

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  7. Baltika9 Arcane

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    But on the other hand, it would be very interesting if Derryth, Thais and Mazzarin became one person inside of Nine's mind. Might flop just for that.
     
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  8. Kz3r0 Arcane

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    Only Derryth will enter Nine's mind using Thais as an anchor while the Black Arrows will keep an eye on our new 'friends'.

    Actually I think of this as a chain-mind linking, Thais wiil enter our mind making sure that everything remains in place while we enter nine's mind.

    Besides, Fangshi , how much time we have to prepare for doing this?
    I would like to make some practice beetween us and Thais, making a sort of Vulcanian mind fusion before attempting this.

    Yay, lesbian sex at last.
     
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  9. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Fuck it. Flopping to D.
     
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  10. Fangshi Arcane

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    Sure if you want she can keep an eye on your mind and help guide you back should something happen. It will be the magical equivalent of a lifeline, if something happens she will reel you back in. She can do that from her mind though so she does not actually have to enter your mind she will just be monitoring the bridge between your mind and Nine's.

    You could probably afford to put it off for a day or so. After that events may begin to play out elsewhere that you might like to influence.

    Sure, if you want to practice entering each others minds for a day or so you can. It might help a little but each mind is different and Nine's will be far more unusual and dangerous than Thaïs'.
     
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  11. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Kz3r0, my only problem here is that Derryth will be going alone into the very dangerous mind of Nine without too good of an idea on how to work with all the shit in there. I would gladly vote for your option if we had Mazzarin along for the ride with Thais being our "lifeline."
     
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  12. Kz3r0 Arcane

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    I don't trust him, and I am sure that in a battle of minds we wil lose to him, besides, Nine will help us in there, we won't be completely alone.
     
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  13. GreyViper Erudite

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    Modified F, its all nice and interesting, but before that we would exact a prices for bringing the head and letting him enter Nines mind. Recall all we had to do was come here meet who ever requested nine and ofc bring Nine. Nowhere did it say that we would do it for free. So a ultimatum the prices is anything we want, at our own time of choosing.
    If he wont agree, then convince Nine that it would be nice to have ace up our sleeve and it would benefit her as well.
     
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  14. Fangshi Arcane

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    Sure, he will definitely owe you if you help him. So he readily agrees to your condition, one favour or reward of equal value to be collected at the time of your choosing provided you succeed in helping him.

    Of course you are ultimately trusting him to keep his word. If he is who he says he is then you will not have the power to force him to do anything he does not want to do once he has recovered.
     
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  15. GreyViper Erudite

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    Great then in that case three wishes like stories of old. And first would be collected before entering Nines mind.
    Edit. Id like to wait and listen what others would like to get as first prize.
     
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  16. Fangshi Arcane

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    He is amused by the idea of you treating him like the ancient jinn.

    He agrees, three 'wishes' with the first to be collected before you enter Nine's mind.

    He asks you what you would like but he warns you that just like in the old stories you may have to be quite clear and careful in how you phrase your request. :smug:
     
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  17. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Yep. This proves that he is the gen-u-wine article. Only ancient wizards have that level of troll.
     
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  18. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    I don't like this F idea of keeping a lifeline. I think Derryth and Thais would complement each other within Nine's mind, more than harm. F hedges too much and will likely just fail. We're going to want at least some assistance whilst we're in Nine's mind, if only because two dice rolls are far better than one.

    As for rewards, let's brainstorm a bit. We don't want to receive something he can easily take away, or that is of immense value to him, like a powerful artifact.

    Some possible ideas:
    • Identification of all our magical gear. The risk with this is that it may tempt him into robbing us blind, so could be just as bad or worse as what I said above.
    • Magical instruction. I think we're going to receive a bit of this anyway before entering, so the value of this is questionable.
    • A spellbook with loads of powerful magic, and his basic instruction on interpreting it. I believe the instruction component is why we haven't been able to use the spellbooks we've found on the road. We'd need to spend a lot of time in study. This could cut it down significantly and let us have more magical capability.
    • Magical augmentation of our body to be better at something. Again, trust is an issue.
    • Apprenticeship without being under his direct command, letting us have the agency we desire to grow our own powerbase.
    • The creation of a magical staff to significantly bolster our spellcasting abilities.
    Each of these ideas would need to be reworded against any djinn trickery.
     
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  19. Kz3r0 Arcane

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    Let us enter his mind unguarded, let' see if he trusts us as much as he wants us to trust him.
     
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  20. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Everything on that list has trust issues. And you want the most powerful wizard alive to identify or gear? :lol: That's just waisting resources, dude, and insulting to boot.
     
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  21. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    Given what we've just heard of the mind's immune response to intrusion, going into his mind sounds like a really bad idea.

    Brainstorming, not endorsement.
     
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  22. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Fangshi, instead of LARPing Alladin with him, can we instead ask for apprenticeship with him? Actual apprenticeship, none of this gopher crap he's using the poor girl for.
     
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  23. Nevill Arcane

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    What the hell? Why?!

    Fuck it, flopping to C>A. If people can't see the obvious trap that comes with going together, it is better not to go at all.

    C or bust.

    I thought people would be more careful after our visit to Melete's workshop, but what do you know? The same guys are pushing for D now. What can possibly go wrong?
     
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  24. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    Nevill, just prioritise C>A. Unless you swore an oath against conditional voting or something.
     
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  25. Fangshi Arcane

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    Umm... that is an actual apprenticeship... :lol:

    You spend years, maybe decades doing boring and/or dangerous tasks for the promise of power. It is essentially slavery. There is a good reason why most of the great archmages do not have recorded masters. They did it themselves, cause no one is going to give it to you willingly.

    Henry was actually a fairly kind master all things considered and the schools do exist for legitimate reasons... they curb some of the worst excesses masters can get up to though they also limit what you can learn. For their your safety, you understand. ;)

    Perhaps you would prefer some sort of mentorship program where he gives you the odd lesson when you both have time? When/if he gets back on his feet he will have a lot to do. He is not going to spend his time teaching you unless you want to drop everything and travel around with him.

    Current Tally:

    Azira D>C
    Kz3r0 F>C?>A?
    asxetos D
    Smashing Axe C>A>B
    Grimgravy A>D
    Nevill C>A
    Jester E
    Baltika9 C
    GreyViper F
    Zero Credibility A>C
    Cassidy C

    Pre Flop:

    A) 2 votes
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    C) 4 votes
    D) 2 votes
    E) 1 vote
    F) 2 votes

    Post Flop:

    A)
    B)
    C) 6 votes?
    D) 3 votes
    E) 1 vote
    F) 1 vote
     
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