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Dragon Age New Dragon Age confirmed

Discussion in 'BioWare' started by Infinitron, May 22, 2017.

  1. Zeriel Arcane

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    The commonality I see with this kind of character in recent games (and it is a problem in DA:I) too, is there is very rarely a choice to tell them their shit stinks. Most of the choices are positive. DA:I has some snarky sarcastic responses occasionally thrown in there, but there's no "fuck up their relationship beyond all repair" choice, or, to go even further, the arch example in original Dragon Age of killing Leliana. Ironically, they partially retcon that in DA:I to being... she was killed, but somehow, miraculously, she's fine. It's the hand of the writer coming down and saying, "No that was a wrong choice, this character is too special to be treated this way."

    More broadly that's my issue whenever these characters pop up in other games, it's a huge dissonance and narrative break when suddenly all your replies are polite and nice to this one character, whereas with some other NPC that isn't the case, and the genre's whole selling point is often the different and sometimes awful choices you can make in interacting with people.
     
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  2. Camel Learned

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    Do BioWare even have any good writers left?
     
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  3. Ryzer Savant

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  4. thesoup Arcane

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    I'm Ridin' with Biden I'm Ridin' with Biden
    Bioware was always shit.
     
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  5. whydoibother Magister

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  6. Assisted Living Godzilla Cipher

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    So this Matt Goldman guy is the art director for most of BioWares games, all of the Dragon Age games, but Matt Rhodes is the artistic face of BioWare and in particular the Dragon Age games. Sounds like there really wasn't much point to Goldman. Maybe they'll actually get around to making a Dragon Age game that looks like Matt Rhodes art for once now, as opposed to some weird half realistic, half stylized take on Rhodes' stuff that they've been doing. That almost makes too much sense for BioWare to do though.
     
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  7. J1M Arcane

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    The same guy was the art director for DA1 and DA2? That makes no sense.
     
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  8. Nano Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    No. Matt is credited as a "senior artist" on Origins, the actual art directors were Dean Andersen and Alistair McNally. Matt took over in DA2.
     
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  9. Assisted Living Godzilla Cipher

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    Yeah, Goldman is Senior Artist on Origins, and then becomes Art Director for Dragon Age on Awakening. It looks like he left BioWare for a moment and joined Ensemble Studios, so that's probably why he's just credited as Senior Artist as opposed to Art Director.

    Art/Graphics
    Halo Wars: Definitive Edition (2017) (Art)
    Dragon Age: Inquisition - Jaws of Hakkon (2015) (Art Director)
    Dragon Age: Inquisition - Trespasser (2015) (Art Director)
    Dragon Age: Inquisition (2014) (Art Director)
    Baldur's Gate II: Enhanced Edition (2013) (Core Art Team)
    Dragon Age II (2011) (Art Director)
    Dragon Age II (BioWare Signature Edition) (2011) (Art Director)
    Dragon Age II: Legacy (2011) (Art Director)
    Dragon Age II: Mark of the Assassin (2011) (Art Director)
    Dragon Age II: The Black Emporium (2011) (Art Director)
    Dragon Age II: The Exiled Prince (2011) (Art Director)
    Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening (2010) (Art Director (Dragon Age Franchise))
    Dragon Age: Origins (2009) (Senior Artist)
    Halo Wars (2009) (Art)
    Jade Empire: Special Edition (2007) (Art Director)
    Jade Empire (2005) (Art Director)
    Jade Empire (Limited Edition) (2005) (Art Director)
    Neverwinter Nights: Gold (2003) (Additional Art)
    Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (2003) (Additional Art)
    Neverwinter Nights (2002) (Additional Art)
    Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal (2001) (Art Director)
    Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn (2000) (Core Art Team)
    Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn (Collector... (2000) (Core Art Team)
    MDK 2 (2000) (Art)​
     
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  11. Oberon Learned

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    I'm more disgusted by the danger hair he's hitting on tbh
     
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  12. Camel Learned

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    Now I understand why I was never able to finish ME:A.
     
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  13. lycanwarrior Learned

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    Which is why I am very much taking a "wait-and-see" approach for any of Bioware's future output. Assuming they ever actually come out that is.
     
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  14. Avarize Magister

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    I'm more disgusted by the comments.
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  15. Roguey Codex Staff Sawyerite

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    Avellone gives Bioware what he's been giving Obsidian these past few years. https://twitter.com/ChrisAvellone/status/1466133676060594177



     
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  16. Nano Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    I wonder, how does Avellone feel about Gaider throwing him under the bus last year?
     
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  17. Sykar Arcane

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    Do you have a link?
     
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  18. Nano Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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  19. mediocrepoet First disciple of Mediocrites Patron

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    At least the disgusting Biowhores will probably never breed. Let this curse die with them.
     
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  20. Roguey Codex Staff Sawyerite

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    They are no longer friends.
     
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  21. Reinhardt Arcane

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    STAY AWAY FROM THE FRIDGE ITZ MINE!!!!!!!!!! is a perfect characterization of these... things.
     
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  22. Camel Learned

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    He probably feels liberated and he can say what he wants to because of his current situation.
    Fuck anyone who believes false rape accusations. Hope Avellone clears his name, he's a nice man and the GOAT RPG writer.
     
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  23. jackofshadows Magister

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    I wholeheartedly agree.
     
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  24. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    RPG Wokedex Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    https://blog.bioware.com/2021/12/04/joining-our-community-to-celebrate-all-things-dragon-age/

     
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  25. mediocrepoet First disciple of Mediocrites Patron

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