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New Mass Effect interview: Cap'n Shepard = Jack Bauer

Discussion in 'BioWare' started by Vault Dweller, Jan 20, 2007.

  1. Cthulhugoat Arbiter

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    Fucking imperialists, can't stand a person of color as the protagonist.
     
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  2. Claw Erudite Patron

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    He also claimed this were a challenge in a role-playing game.

    Starting with the first CRPG I ever played, I always felt, nay, knew, I was somebody special. I was the Man. The Player. I was the one who boldly went were noone else dared to go, asked the questions that needed answering, and kicked ass.

    Making me feel not special would be a challenge. Feeling special is the status quo of CRPGs.
    That ought to make you wonder what the fuck he means when he says "We wanted people to [...] feel they're somebody special."

    Like.. more so than in every other CRPG? More special? Super-special?
     
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  3. Stalagmite Scholar

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    I never looked at my role as "I boldly have to defeat evil Magnus the Necromancer" more like responsibility. It is my responsibility to help out the villagers the best I can and defeat evil Magnus the Necromancer because that is what my role calls for.
     
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  4. Stalagmite Scholar

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    Meh. Every Bioware game and every Matrix movie has the cast all of severely differenciating ethnic backgrounds. They all look like half-nigger/half-asian or half-spic/quarter-nigger quarter white. Let's keep it all white skin blonde-hair, blue eyes and at the very most extreme, white skin black hair brown eyes.
     
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  5. Voss Erudite

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    Ah, but it never actually does. You're almost always farm boy (or some other shit-common origin) with a DESTINY that transcends space, time and your crummy background as an mewling orphan, not Brother-Captain of the Imperial Order of Witch Hunters (the guy who actually does have a responsiblity to defeat Magnus the Necromancer). I'd really love to play a game that involved playing 'random mercenary that gets involved in a local plot'. Maybe take care of a few problems troubling a local town or at the 'epic' end of things, dealing with a plot to plunge two kingdoms into war.

    No destiny, no special powers, no 'you are the only one who can use the Macguffin of Masturbation against the evil ancient race/god/giant steaming cliche of choice'.
     
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  6. bylam Funcom Developer

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    Shit, Space Rangers 2 could be adapted to a fantasy setting and do a pretty decent job. Establish yourself in the world, trade between villages, take different diplomatic quests/escort missions/assassination missions, and your ultimate goal is to fight off the evil invading army.
    Hmmm... replace technology with magic and we have a winner.
     
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  7. Stalagmite Scholar

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    Interesting. I was mainly talking about the actual GAME itself and my attitude towards the plot, not the plot itself, but those are wise words, Voss. If the Codex did some elections on a Circle of Codex Elders or something like that, I would definately consider you a candidate. :wink:
     
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  8. Multiple Sarcasm Arcane

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    Well, my biggest gripe with SP cRPG's would be that pretty much all of them involve saving the kindom/regime/world/realm/the whole of existance from impending evil undead robot armies of doooom or somesuch overly clever scenario (mind-blowingly predictable plot turns included). One would think those are the only problems we could ever face in any given world...
    Where are the personal quests? Something... anything not involving us being another demi-god deciding the fate of standing society... for better, mostly - haven't really seen anything sensible on the 'evil' front.

    But, bleh!... It's unlikely we'll see anything of the sort in any nearest decades. Sophistication simply doesn't sell.
    You can tell just by looking at COMMANDER Shepard's intellectually-unharmed face.
     
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  9. RK47 collides like two planets pulled by gravity Patron

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    Yeah too much 'Do this' 'Do that'

    The question in my head is always ' What happens if I don't do it? '

    And the inevitable answer:
    Nothing happens. You don't get to finish the game :(
     
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  10. Seboss Scholar

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    This is why time limits are good (Fallout, Megatraveller 2).
     
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  11. RK47 collides like two planets pulled by gravity Patron

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    Agreed. It's silly when the NPC kept pushing the player to do it but nothing ever happens when he doesn't do it. If it's a sidequest it'll wait for him. If it's main quest plot, it will not advance. There need to be a time limit factor when the 'consequences of inaction' kicks in. I haven't experienced much of this happening in a game.

    Few exceptions:
    Bloodnet, if u don't complete main plot, u become a full vampire and lose the game. You can delay by drinking blood etc but humanity is limited etc.

    Challenge of the 5 Realms, a dark mist will consume the southern most map and sweeps northwards. If you don't finish the game. There will be no town left to save and sometimes it renders plot critical towns inaccessible. Very frustrating.

    Fallout water chip is great way to keep the player moving and not taking his own pace.
     
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  12. FrancoTAU Cipher

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    I have mixed feelings on timed main quests. Side quests, sure. But Magic Candle 1 frustrated me as a dopey kid.
     
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  13. Fez Erudite

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    You can find something closer to that if you play the indie games. Unreal World doesn't have the "Kill the big foozle" underlying it. You are just a man trying to survive in a harsh landscape.
     
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  14. FrancoTAU Cipher

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    Most professional writers suck when it comes to writing a 3 Dimensional evil/bad character. It's a nice dream, but I doubt we'll see a fleshed out evil path besides getting the asshole option in a dialogue tree or the option to kill NPCs. I"M TEH EVIL BECAUSE I DON"T DO GOOD DEEDS JUST BECAUSE>>> I DO GOOD DEEDS BECUZ I WUZ OFFERED PHAT LEWT AS A REWARD!
     
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  15. kingcomrade Kingcomrade Edgy

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    And what is my favorite RPG....Planescape: Torment, which does not in fact entail saving the universe. Fallout, on the other hand, is about saving the Vault from dehydration and then the whole wasteland from Mutant...er, ization. Mutantification. :S But still, Fallout isn't as bad as some and the villain had a reasonable...reason.
    I am evil because I asked for payment in return for running your FedEx across town instead of doing it out of the goodness of my heart.
     
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  16. Admiral Rimjob POOBUM Arcane

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    Now that's how NWN2 should've done it.
     
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  17. Kingston Arcane

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    I'mjumping on the bandwagon...

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  18. Texas Red Whiner

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    Those are good ones. Keep them coming.
     
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  19. Chinese Jetpilot Arcane Patron

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    What I also find funny about all the photos is that Shepard...sorry, COMMANDER Shepard is always choosing the default (yellow) response. He doesn't even want to move the cursor. Shepard HATES choices.
     
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  20. Vault Dweller Commissar, Red Star Studio Developer

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  21. doctor_kaz Scholar

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    Interesting how the NPC interaction formula being made fun of is actually only a few years old, but it became so popular with Kotor, Kotor 2, and NWN 2, that it seems like a cliche now. I'm surprised that I'm actually kind of tired of it now. Maybe the genre should get back to simpler NPC interactions and backgrounds.
     
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  22. Volourn Pretty Princess Pretty Princess

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    WTF? WTF? WTF?


    ME will be ana wesome Action RPG.

    These faux screens are still hilarious! I might even play Shepard as the mad man shown here!

    R00fles!


    P.S. I'm sure most of ye know; but Shepard doesn't have to even be malke! Someone do a pic of a PMSing female Shepard!

    L0LLERZ!!! :lol:
     
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  23. Chinese Jetpilot Arcane Patron

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    I haven't seen that thread; I wonder if I had left in "Miners" in place of "Bioware fanboys", I'm guessing many wouldn't be able to tell the real thing from the fake.

    Every ELITE organization has its own fight song, the N7 ELITES MILITARYZ SQUAD of MASSIVE EFFECTS is no different.:

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  24. kingcomrade Kingcomrade Edgy

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    I'm looking at the one you posted about the Love Interest and I can't help thinking it should've been, "I'm imagining silence. EXTREME silence."
     
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  25. Cthulhugoat Arbiter

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    Look what you did, my cock is all hard now, thanks to your MANLY song.

    "I HATE PUSSY, GOD DAMNIT!"
     
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