Nostaljaded
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I swear I saw RK47 post a really similar post before.
I guess that means Koei has been making some half-baked games recently
SoA default is on sale for PS4, but Ascension is not. Should I get the default? (I understand Ascension is shit?). And how are these games nowadays anyway. Did updates improve them?
Oh and ninjas. I want ninjas. Are there ninjas in these games? Can I recruit Hattori Hanzo and the Iga clan to burn my rivals farms down?
Are you saying Ascension is an improvement over Sphere even in the daimyo game, is that it? Because everywhere I look Ascension is criticized for being a pool of bugs, inocuous features and shitty AI. Was it updated/fixed through patches, or was everybody wrong from the beginning?Ascension is not shit. It's the same game as Sphere of Influence, but with the added ability to play as an individual, not just as a force. If you play as a daimyo, your game will play very similarly, if not the same, as Sphere of Influence. I'd say it's better.
Town building as an officer is very tedious and I don't enjoy it much, but it's not a big part of the game and after you've gained a few ranks, you don't need to worry about it anymore. If you want to play as the lowest ranking officer, you'll need to do the town building, but you could also just start as a higher ranked character too.
Definitely get Ascension.
Sorry for the late reply, very busy lately.Are you saying Ascension is an improvement over Sphere even in the daimyo game, is that it? Because everywhere I look Ascension is criticized for being a pool of bugs, inocuous features and shitty AI. Was it updated/fixed through patches, or was everybody wrong from the beginning?Ascension is not shit. It's the same game as Sphere of Influence, but with the added ability to play as an individual, not just as a force. If you play as a daimyo, your game will play very similarly, if not the same, as Sphere of Influence. I'd say it's better.
Town building as an officer is very tedious and I don't enjoy it much, but it's not a big part of the game and after you've gained a few ranks, you don't need to worry about it anymore. If you want to play as the lowest ranking officer, you'll need to do the town building, but you could also just start as a higher ranked character too.
Definitely get Ascension.
Yes, there are ninjas, and you can even play as one if you'd like. Hattori Hanzo is a playable character, as are a number of other prominent ninjas. I don't think the ninja officers themselves do too much, but there are ninja clans (and other clans as well) that you can ally with who will help you during battle and help prevent subterfuge being used against you.Oh, vou forgot the ninjas. Do the exist in Ascension? If so, what do they do?
This is true. It's very easy to become extremely powerful during officer play because you can just keep switching sides when things turn south for your lord. You can make requests from your daimyo, such as additional castles or officers, and get all of his best stuff, and once you become the second highest rank, everything you conquer automatically becomes yours. If your lord is conquered, you can continue playing under your new lord. It is much easier than playing as a daimyo from the get-go, and a good way to build up power.One thing I've heard though is that officer play is broken because there's no competition at all, and the game assumes you'll become super-powerfyl and depose of (or abandon) your daimyo eventually. Anyone can confirm that?
Dont know if by "them" here you mean EU, TW or Civ or all them, but I think you're touching here something I felt immediately when I fired up the game: it strives for immersing the player in this world and the personal stories of its characters in a way neither of them do, with the sole exception of CK2 (and even then, NA: Ascension makes it in a stark different way). Which brings me back to my earlier point about Alpha Centauri: I play games to be immersed in stories and scenarios first, and to engage with mechanics second. Alpha Centauri understands this, NA understands this, CK2 too. Europa Universalis on the other hand, always felt so abstract and numbers-centered to me that I could never endure it. All that is to say I think the "manage your fief with some pretty gfx hearing a cricket in distancr and smelling the smell of cow dung by the morning" has its value.I actually rather like the little village in a pocket dimension that you get. It's a pretty likeable little hamlet with the right sort of touches to make it seem to have a bit of life in it.
Anyway, personally I'd say it's a huge leg-up over either of them, because it gets a lot of the little details right that neither of them even try (ie, harvest and growing food) and has a great map
I play games to be immersed in stories and scenarios first, and to engage with mechanics second.