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Decline Now that the dust has settled, can we admit that Disco Elysium is decline?

Divine Blessing

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codex plebs dont know the real truth about communism: Karl Marx was a corporate Sales Engineer, sent back in time by the U.S. military-industrial complex. DE is a side-effect of the Cold-War, which hidden agenda was to secure Eastern Europes organ supply for the US.
 

Verylittlefishes

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Incredibly low t game.
I can understand the soy accusations now.

Are you talkin' to ME?
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J1M

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I liked the idea of playing a detective.

I did not like the art style.

When I tried to pull down the hanged man and realized it was just an adventure game wrapped in pretension I lost interest.
 

KeighnMcDeath

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In today's age a little different art is fine (though I am seeing art that certainly gives off that flash game vibe). Detective is fine as well. I mean I have plenty of games to grind in and there's no shortage. Perhaps different is ok.
 

J1M

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What about getting the corpse down made you "realize" that?
When the game told me I couldn't complete that basic action without first getting a thing from a place such that it would act as a key to unlock the next step. (I am aware that it should be possible to build a character that can skip using that particular key.)

At that point it seemed clear that the game wanted me to understand that the gameplay was that of an adventure game and not a murder investigation.
 

Zed Duke of Banville

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When the game told me I couldn't complete that basic action without first getting a thing from a place such that it would act as a key to unlock the next step. (I am aware that it should be possible to build a character that can skip using that particular key.)

At that point it seemed clear that the game wanted me to understand that the gameplay was that of an adventure game and not a murder investigation.
You should have just shot down the hanged man.

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gestalt11

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codex plebs dont know the real truth about communism: Karl Marx was a corporate Sales Engineer, sent back in time by the U.S. military-industrial complex. DE is a side-effect of the Cold-War, which hidden agenda was to secure Eastern Europes organ supply for the US.

In hindsight this is eerily plausible given the current state of California.

That and the fact that something like 80% of Millennials think communism is a good thing, then site non-communisitic states like Sweden (which is a massive weapon exporter and full participant in evil capitalism) as their gold standard. Regardless of whether such a thing is good, bad or indifferent its funny how just mixing up a few things and keeping them ignorant turns out in certain party's favor. Its funny how Otto Von Bismark started the thing they think is "socialism". Baffled, bamboozled and batshit nuts..
 

overly excitable young man

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About what is this game anyway?

-it's not about solving the case
-it's not about paranormal stuff and big ass locusts
-it's not about politics
-it's not about finding out about your past
-it's not about creating a new you

It dabbles a little bit in each of these and by that misses every focus.
 

Harthwain

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About what is this game anyway?

-it's not about solving the case
-it's not about paranormal stuff and big ass locusts
-it's not about politics
-it's not about finding out about your past
-it's not about creating a new you

It dabbles a little bit in each of these and by that misses every focus.
To me it's more like you're the one missing stuff, not the game.

- It's not about solving the case. Except you end up doing exactly that.

- It's not about paranormal stuff and big ass locusts. Except there is a lot of paranormal stuff going on and it's potentially bigger than the entire case, your past or your career.

- It's not about politics. Well, it really isn't. Politics is there mostly to provide another dimension for the world-building. I mean, can you imagine discussing the modern world or history without mentioning communism? It's literally like :deadhorse: but it's still a prevalent topic, even after more than 30 years since the Fall of Communism. Also, politics is yet another way to act hilariously stupid, which is as good reason as any in Disco Elysium. (Or do you think that the whole doomsaying is serious too?)

- It's not about finding out about your past. That's up to you. I was interested in finding out bits and pieces of the past, figuring out who I was before I became me.

- It's not about creating a new you. I don't know about you, but I think it does hit the similar theme as Planescape: Torment here and it's one of the most important aspects of the game (if not THE most important).
 

overly excitable young man

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Well the case is boring and unimiginative. Standard murder case clichees. Who of the people is it?
First you think it's the one lass who you never have seen before but then it's the other lad you have never seen before.
C'mon they could have done it better than that. Random sniper is just boring.

Which is the next thing. The locust thing saying you are some kind of chosen one who can end the world, the teleportation...
Why did the game need that? You add stuff like that even though your main ideas aren't even thought out.

For this having nothing to do with politics the whole murder is pretty politicised though with the union, the company, the strike and the mercs.
The whole game starts out with politics and then becomes random with some paranormal stuff and random snipers making kills for xp.

Lol there just isn't much about your past to find out. 6 years ago your wife left you, the child isn't from you, you have a lot of stress at work and are addicted to drugs and alcohol somehow.
And you had a breakdown.
The whole story of the merc guy was better written and more interesting then your own back story.
For him being that fucked up you need a little more than that imo.

This is my main gripe with the game. You don't create a new you. You don't change because of missing c&c.
You aren't really a superstar, a fascist or suicidal when all the reactions of the game are:
"lol you are no superstar. Whatever let's continue."
"Bad fascist. Whatever let's continue."
"You really shouldn't say that. Whatever let's continue."

The game just promised much more c&c than there actually was.
 
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overly excitable young man

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What is the strenght of the game?
What does it make good?
Some characters were interesting (Kim, Joyce, Corrupt Union Guy, Titus, Drug Addict Kid) i guess.
Klaasje was so annoying i wanted to shoot her a minute in.
Others are just plain boring. (Everyone in the fishing village, book lady, lady whos husband dies and so on)
 

Prime Junta

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What is the strenght of the game?
What does it make good?

If you have to ask, it’s not for you. Read any of the zillion reviews if you want to find out what other people liked about it, it’s not like there’s a shortage of them.
 

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