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Obsidian General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Obsidian Entertainment' started by Duraframe300, Jul 18, 2013.

  1. Flou Arbiter

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    It's not a slip up. It's been known for quite some time already. Badler has had it on his LinkedIn for few months I think.
     
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  2. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    RPG Wokedex Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Kingmaker
     
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  3. Nano Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    Not enough branching.
     
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  5. Major_Blackhart Codexia Lord Sodom Patron

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    I hope that was a shot against sawyer
     
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  7. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Codex 2014
    A blast from 2018: https://www.idlethumbs.net/designernotes/episodes/josh-sawyer-part-1

     
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  8. Roguey Codex Staff Sawyerite

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    In this video Jeff Grub here drops an anecdote about how Obsidian was all ready to show off Avowed during this year's E3 but Microsoft told them "No, show Outer Worlds 2!" so they cobbled together that cringe trailer making fun of themselves for not having anything to actually show, and after the event was over Obs got a message from MS that was something along the lines of "WTF why didn't you show off Avowed?!?!?!?!" with a response of "We did what you told us to do!"


    (properly timestamped)

    An unexpected turn of events really. +M
     
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  9. agris Arcane Patron

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    The fact that MS leadership didn't have insight into what their subsidiary was going to show during the event demonstrates the total and 100% completely unsurprising lack of professionalism on both sides.
     
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  10. Sannom Augur

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    Thank for the timestamp Roguey!

    However, I'm shocked that every summary of that anecdote (including Roguey's) that I've read says that Microsoft didn't know what Obsidian was going to show at E3 when it's pretty clear in the video that the miscommunication was discovered before E3 but too late for Obsidian to prepare something for Avowed.
     
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  11. agris Arcane Patron

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    Sannom do you think it is inherently better for MS to realize the wrong video is to be shown too late to facilitate change prior to the event, rather than realize the wrong video was shown after the event?

    they appear functionally identical to me: communication and leadership too poor to affect change such that MS’s desired result is achieved.
     
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  12. Smerlus Educated

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    One is slightly better.

    You have one where Obsidian didn't listen and MS had a little time to be aware of it and do damage control if needed.

    The other is Obsidian didn't listen and MS was too dumb to notice.
     
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  13. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    mega-corporations with hundreds of thousands of employees tend to have major communication issues
     
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  14. Mebrilia Liturgist

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    I cant wait they Will show off a fpp only game((yawn)) on the pillars universe setting((yawn))..
    I am not excited for It all.
     
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  15. Major_Blackhart Codexia Lord Sodom Patron

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    So, anyone have any second or third hand insight into the company nowadays? Have attitudes shifted? Anyone more fed up than usual?
     
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  16. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    https://www.idlethumbs.net/designernotes/episodes/josh-sawyer-part-2



     
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  17. TedNugent Arcane

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    Wait a fucking minute; so, this sniveling studio gets acquired by Microshit and almost immediately starts developing a first person game based on Pillars of Eternity?

    Not only will this clearly go well, I'm sure it had nothing to do with being acquired by Mickeysoft, the owners of Bethesda and the Halo IP.

    Whose bright idea was this? Just read an article saying Obshittian refused a prior takeover and suggested they allowed themselves to be bought out by Bill Gates' demonspawn because "it had to be someone they could sit down and have a beer with." Now, I will admit that among behemoth publishers, Microshit and Sony appear to be far from the worst offenders, and have such monolithic pockets that they can afford to fund and nurture a little bit more creativity than the bloodsuckers at the big three, but what? Sit down and have a beer?

    At first glance, this makes me feel kinda gross and apprehensive to ambivalent. They're quite literally on the same portfolio as Bethesda, making a first person RPG. Trying not to retch rn. Do I even need to watch the trailer?
    How the fuck do companies keep falling for this acquisition trap? I hope the faggot gets his golden parachute, at least.
     
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  18. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    FYI they were acquired by Microsoft before the Bethesda acquisition.
     
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  19. TedNugent Arcane

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    Sigh. Gonna have to read this thread now.

    I just remember reading the acquisition news headline in a side panel, and rolling my eyes.
     
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  20. razvedchiki Erudite Sad Loser

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    is it like 4 years they got bought by microsoft right? where are the games?
     
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  21. TedNugent Arcane

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    Hopefully in development, like they should be. That rumor of one game every year is a ghastly thing.
     
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  22. Sannom Augur

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    As I'm sure you can find on your own on Josh Sawyer's social media accounts, that was something that Feargus had been wanting for a while now.

    To be fair, that first offer for a takeover came from a company that was apparently very transparent about wanting Obsidian not for creating games but to add to their workforce. I can understand why any other pitch would be more appealing than that.
     
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  23. Quillon Arcane

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    So why isn't anyone excited for Arcanum sequel now that Activision's part of MS? :P
     
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