On the subject of NSFW pics on the forum.

[Calis]

We're having a bit of a discussion about this on the staff forum, and even though nobody's guaranteeing that Codex management will conform itself to what you guys want, I thought I'd throw this out there anyway. Personally, I am all for setting a "keep the nsfw stuff in links" rule, and enforcing it in the usual Codex "ban as a last resort" way, but other staff members like to throw the occasional disgusting-ism in there and feel that should be within limits.

Discuss/vote!

 

[Data4]

It's a question of responsibility, I suppose. Is the Codex or its members responsible for a person getting in trouble at work?

Everyone knows the risks involved, and I enjoy the freedom in not having to worry about getting banned for flying off the handle on occasion. There are limits, though, and I'd be pretty pissed off if someone pic-bombed a thread with alternating tubgirls and goatses, so I picked 2 with the caveat that if the "in moderation" is exceeded, then the actions of #1 may be in order.

-D4

 

[Calis]

I don't agree it's a question of responsibility, though; I'm not advocating keeping this forum SFW because we'd somehow be responsible for people getting fired. I'm advocating it because I believe in an environment where people can fly off the handle *in words* from work, without worrying about their boss seeing a huge anus on their work screen.

 

[Trash]

The occasional tub-girl doesn't really irk me that much. When you open it while it's hidden behind a clever link, one can only berate himself for falling for it. What irks me is the rise of page filling "funny" nsfw stuff that idiots use to deraill threads and piss people off. As long as people keep stuff behind links I really don't mind, when it's up in my (and my boss's) face it sucks balls. It's not clever, it's not cool and it's defenitely idiotic.

 

[Vault Dweller]

As long as people keep stuff behind links I really don't mind, when it's up in my (and my boss's) face it sucks balls. It's not clever, it's not cool and it's defenitely idiotic.

That's exactly my thoughts on this matter: it's not clever, not cool, and idiotic.

I enjoy the freedom in not having to worry about getting banned for flying off the handle on occasion...

Freedom to express yourself with WORDS is one thing. Freedom to post a stupid picture just because you can, forcing people at work not to participate in discussions is something else.

 

[obediah]

I'm all for keeping the gaping asses and vaginas, fecal eruptions, he-she gieshas, babies with amputated limbs being served their own nipples, and the like in links.

Is our forum-fu fancy enough to remove linking privileges from specific users? I think that would be a much more appropriate punishment than banning.

I also wouldn't mind if someone wants to start a post pictures of yourself in the goatse guys ass or surfing tubgirl, or something like that is obviosly going to be full of stuff better viewed at home. The oblivion character photo thread was a good example of this.

Of course this raises the ugly question of what is work safe.

 

[Jason]

People that fuck around at work should do so at their own risk. Otherwise, maybe they should get back to work instead of hanging out at video game sites. I used to fuck around at various jobs when I was younger and it never once occured to me that other people should be required to facilitate my fucking around. Anything negative that happened was my own damn fault and that's the way it should be. As for things being "not cool, not clever, and idiotic", so fucking what!? Get over yourselves. We're not deciding the fate of nations here (with or without necromancy).

That said, if smackdowns/editing/bannings must happen, it should be only where absolutely appropriate and necessary, like news discussions. There are some places where NSFW stuff should be expected and not edited, like in hentai threads or any sort of picture threads (like the Obilvion character one, as obediah mentioned). Actually, all Oblivion threads should be considered NSFW and plastered in goatse and tubgirl on general principles.

 

[kingcomrade]

Personally I think they should be behind links. There's not really any harm to it if you do that. It's not as "shocking" but tubgirl isn't exactly shocking any more. The first time I saw it, I nearly barfed. Now I'm just like, "Hey, it's tubgirl."

Would my pic of Anni Streisinger in General Discussion be NSFW? Or my picture of a black person in the draw ur oblion charactar thread?

Personally I don't think banning should be resorted to. I'm with obediah, if you can put temporary restrictions on some people that would be much better. Banning is not cool.

Anyways, Codex has some really intelligent mods who have never, as far as I can tell, gone off on a power trip. I'm with obediah and such, if the thread is obviously NSFW it would be better to just not to browse it at work, but those should be special cases and posting goatsex pictures in a normal thread should be edited out and the poster warned/punished.

 

[Vault Dweller]

People that fuck around at work should do so at their own risk.

Sure. And they will stop coming once they get burned a few times. What a great VICTARY that would be!

 

[kingcomrade]

There are some places where NSFW stuff should be expected and not edited, like in hentai threads or any sort of picture threads (like the Obilvion character one, as obediah mentioned).

That would probably be the best way to go. It's reasonable and doesn't really cut into anyone's fun.

 

[Vault Dweller]

Would my pic of Anni Streisinger in General Discussion be NSFW?

No. She isn't naked, the thread is clearly named, etc

Personally I don't think banning should be resorted to. I'm with obediah, if you can put temporary restrictions on some people that would be much better. Banning is not cool.

First time - warning. Second time - good bye. I don't have time to patiently remind people not to do that again.

 

[Trash]

People that fuck around at work should do so at their own risk. Otherwise, maybe they should get back to work instead of hanging out at video game sites. I used to fuck around at various jobs when I was younger and it never once occured to me that other people should be required to facilitate my fucking around. Anything negative that happened was my own damn fault and that's the way it should be. As for things being "not cool, not clever, and idiotic", so fucking what!? Get over yourselves.

What the fuck kind of a rant is that? I've got a job that really doesn't mind me checking out the web for leasure. They do object against me looking at porn though. Is it that wierd that I don't enjoy that crap jumping up in my face when I don't expect it? I really don't mind when I could have prevented it by not clicking a link.

 

[Calis]

Well, obediah's solution of auto-converting to links for some people shouldn't be that hard to mod in. First offense -> bye bye pics, auto-linkified. Not exactly rocket science.

 

[HanoverF]

I don't think the Codex has ever been about the Tubgirling, its just that the freedom facilitated it, and juvenille types took full advantage (I blame SolRextum).

 

[Nicolai]

Just have your browser disable images when you are browsing the forum at work.

 

[Calis]

Hah. Try that out and see how you like it.

 

[Nicolai]

That's what I do when I'm browsing forums at school. Works quite well.

 

[Calis]

Hmm, doesn't even look as bad as I expected. Still, I think work safe without disabled images > inalienable right to tubgirl stuff.
Also, re: slackers should take responsibility: Some jobs happen to have something to do with the development of RPG's. Anyone disagree that that kind of counter-productive forumbrowsing during work hours should be encouraged?

 

[Jason]

"What the fuck kind of a rant is that? I've got a job that really doesn't mind me checking out the web for leasure. They do object against me looking at porn though. Is it that wierd that I don't enjoy that crap jumping up in my face when I don't expect it? I really don't mind when I could have prevented it by not clicking a link."

Maybe it's because I'm a closet libertarian. Or maybe it's because I've never had a job where leisure time was an accepted part of work time. My on-the-job fuckery has always had to be carefully on the down-low and usually involved sneaking rails off the desk, drinking in someone's office, or taking company vehicles on "mystery drives". No internet surfing for me.

If I was a logical person, I'd probably admit that smut behind links isn't a bad thing or a big deal. I'm only logical about a third of the time, though.

 

[obediah]

I'm at work now - oh no3s the sl5ck will end ecunomy!

My job isn't like McDonalds where I am either 'working' or 'not working'. I am either 'at work' or 'not at work', but the chance that I'm working at any given moment is nearly independent of that. Reading, thinking, coding, documenting, testing, are all things I can and do work on wherever I have the appropriate materials.

I think a lot of people that spend 16+ hours a day at a computer are the same.

I'm not the most especial codexer or anything, it should just come down to which is more important to the codex, dirty pictures or people that visit the site from work/school. I'm guessing the latter, but I'm somewhat biased. If it's the former for you, you may have more fun at tfproject.org or some other boobie forum.

Oh yeah, is this allowed?

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[kingcomrade]

8===>~ ~ ~

You're so immature.

 

[Data4]

I don't agree it's a question of responsibility, though; I'm not advocating keeping this forum SFW because we'd somehow be responsible for people getting fired. I'm advocating it because I believe in an environment where people can fly off the handle *in words* from work, without worrying about their boss seeing a huge anus on their work screen.

Hmm... well, in that case, pictures behind links, then. I see what you're saying, and yes I visited the net when I worked in front of a connected PC, but it was always a no-no. The boss had strict rules on that. Breaks had to be taken out of the office, etc.

Anyway, I think the options are a little vague though. I picked #2 because #1 has the potential to sound ESF draconian. I agree completely that links are clicked at the clicker's own risk, though, and a feature to remove an individual's picture posting privileges is better than an outright ban.

-D4

 

[Vault Dweller]

When you pick #2, you:

a) defeat the purpose of this poll, because even an occasionally posted picture can do the damage we are trying to prevent and

b) raise on issue of what's "in moderation". How much is too much? Is once a week ok? Once a day? Once a month?

Anyway, regardless of the poll results and your fears of ESF-style moderation, I will enforce the "Thou shalt not post open pictures" until Saint will relieve me of my duties.

 

[kingcomrade]

"in moderation" could mean in clearly labled threads.

 

[Vault Dweller]

And why do we need this shit at all? Because it's so witty, and great, and awesome to look at?