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Original Colonization vs Civ 4 remake?

Discussion in 'Strategy and Simulation' started by octavius, Jan 20, 2017.

  1. octavius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Anyone played both the original Colonization and the remake that is bundled with Civ 4 Complete Edition?
    If so which is better, and why?
     
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  2. Kalin Unwanted Dumbfuck Zionist Agent

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    Original all the way.
     
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  3. Comte Arcane

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    Original is better. Like in most "Modern" strategy games the AI is braindead in the new one. That ruined it for me.
     
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  4. rezaf Arbiter

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    The original is better in almost every way.

    Many things have been dumbed down simplified, sometimes to "steamline", sometimes to shoehorn stuff into the Civ4 engine it clearly was not meant to accomodate.
    The game plays slower and in my opinion, the clear top-down view of the original even looks better.
    A major downside is that the windows version does not run on a x64 OS.

    The new version has few things going for it, mainly mod support and a few tiny nooks and crannies (for example you couldn't abandon walled colonies in the original Colonization and in CivCol you can, iirc).
     
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  5. asfasdf robot Patron

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    Original is better, but the remake is enjoyable.
     
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  6. spectre Arcane

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    The Civ4 remake changed quite a bit of stuff, like requiring gold for almost any sort of training (took me by surprise first time I played), but one can't shake the feeling that the civ4 strings are showing from underneath,
    which makes it lose some of the original's charm. I was especially fond of the endgame ranking with various stuff being named after you.

    For what it's worth, I spent much more time on the original, not so much on the remake, though I recognize its merits.
     
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  7. Joined on the 4th of July Arcane

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    I've tried the remake only very briefly, but it felt like a mod unlike the original that felt like its own game.

    If it had a bit higher res graphics, like 640x480 for example, it would be really great.
     
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  8. vonAchdorf Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    The original game is better. For the remake, there's a mod "The Authentic Colonization" (TAC), which unfortunately only works with well with a German Col version (at least that's what the authors say). You can switch the German version to English, but some texts are missing / wrong, a pure English version doesn't work properly at all. Maybe it works with the Steam version.
     
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  9. Renegen Arcane

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    Being a huge fan of both games, I play TAC all the time, it's great. The old Colonization suffers from the problem that no matter how advanced your units are, they still only have like a 80% chance to win the battle. While the new Civ4 version you can reach 99.99% probabilities, this makes it less frustrating.
     
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  11. Arrowgrab Arbiter

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    Really? Can't say I ever noticed that. Admittedly, haven't played it in a while, so memory might be failing me; still, I'd expect to remember something like that.
     
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  12. vonAchdorf Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    I only quoted from the (German) FAQ - so I don't have first hand experience with running it on an English version. Interestingly the English FAQ over at the fanatics doesn't mention these problems so English users are probably fine.
     
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