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Path of Exile is a MAJESTIC incline

Discussion in 'MMO(RP)G / Online Discussion' started by raw, Jun 30, 2012.

  1. Jaedar Arcane Patron

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    Project: Eternity Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    In some of those clips the dude has waaaaay less life than he ought to tho. Some of them are pretty crazy though.

    Learn 2 configure your shit mang.

    Anyway for me, the reason I play HC is best explained with the following examples:
    In sc, if I go down to a few % of my max hp, that's a :shrug: moment, cause I lived and healed up anyway.
    In HC, if I go down to a fourth of my max hp, I start reconsidering my gear/build/gems/tactics to see how I can improve and make my run safer, and usually I find a way.

    SC I sleepwalk through, HC I engage with to the fullest, especially since I try to not run other people's builds (I do ask Grunker for advice pretty frequently though).
     
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  2. Grunker RPG Codex Ghost Patron

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    y 2 play hc:

    (1) The thrill. Nobody likes dying, but everybody loves nearly dying.
    (2) The economy. SC: rampant inflation, HC: fluctuation.
    (3) Meaningful goals. SC: Achievement of Goal = Time - (Skill - Luck). HC: Achievement of Goal = not guaranteed.
    (4) Fluctuation of personal fortune. SC: fortune is always increasing. HC: spending money on a character is an investment - higher investment is riskier and yields bigger rewards. Personal fortune can actually decrease.

    Ppl should play what they like I don't judge, but those are the reasons I would never play SC.

    EDIT: Also fuck you for that Baron-drop Jaedar. Despite the hours upon hours I've poured into this game I've somehow managed not to have a singular drop worth more than 85c :negative:
     
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  3. T. Reich Arcane

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    I liked the Alkaizer's shooting squad death the most. No space to evade projectiles, no damage mods on map, no damage mods on the blue pack, only map pack size and spiritwalker bloodline doing their dirty job.
     
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  4. T. Reich Arcane

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    I've played both HC and SC in the past.
    In the end, I chose to play SC almost exclusively, because from my point of view, there's actually not that much difference in the end.

    While Grunker described the attractions of HC pretty accurately, I can add this:
    1) The thrill aspect applies to SC as well. HC is boring and conservative, it's risk averse. SC is bold and adventurous (if you choose to).
    In HC most (sane) people would (rightfully) skip anything that screams "death imminent". Hence, very few people would run clenchy 8-mod rare maps, few people would run max key (pre-3.0.0) uber lab unless they are playing a lab farmer char, and a lot of people would not do atziri because boss fights there require mechanical finesse rather than a gear check.
    In SC, you have the liberty of throwing caution to the wind and simply saying "let's do that -maxres vuln no regen twinned overgrown ruin with double beyond" and then actually doing it. And losing all 6 portals because you misjudged your abilities.
    Not many people in SC opt to do that (those are boring strand-people), but the possibility is there, unlike HC.
    2) The economy 4 weeks into league: SC = stable and plentiful, HC = good luck buying anything oddly specific because most people stopped playing the league already.
    Rampant inflation in SC only applies for the first week or so, when tons of people are playing a lot and list all their loot for sale. After week 2, it's very much stable, and prices only change drastically if a certain streamer or other makes something temporarily popular.

    Three main reasons why I play SC over HC:
    1) I like to do various interesting builds, and HC puts a hard damper on what's viable (as in death-resistant) and what's not, meaning that the variety of choice is smaller.
    2) When I do an interesting build, I don't want it to fail just because I can't get appropriate gear to get it up and running. In HC, that is a real risk 3+ weeks into the league.
    3) I like to play crazy hard maps now and then. HC allows you to make that mistake only once, and it's a costly one.
     
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  5. Grunker RPG Codex Ghost Patron

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    I disagree about the economy but besides that I agree based on my own SC experience. It's just different, not necessarily strictly better or worse. Like arguing endlessly over TB or RtwP

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    though of course tb is objectively better and so is hc :troll:
     
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  6. Mark.L.Joy Savant

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    Yeah I wouldn't dive into screen-filling mobs+harbingers in hardcore, sometimes I die but it's quite the experience.
     
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  7. virgin_newfag Novice

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    Lol SC
     
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  8. SirSingAlot Arbiter

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    Standard SC for me edgelords.

    where else am i gonna spend all my hard flipped currency to durdle with some shitty op builds?
    i like collecting all those noice legacy vesions and just have fun slicing through the game.
    :positive:

    dont get me wrong, i can get behind all your arguments for choosing SSF or HC instead, but if i wanted some sort of challenge i would play another game.
     
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  9. virgin_newfag Novice

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    I like you :positive:
     
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  10. Grunker RPG Codex Ghost Patron

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    always liked this is in theory but watching people play it gives me cancer
     
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  11. T. Reich Arcane

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    Personally, I could never figure out why people would want to watch someone play PoE for prolonged periods of time. It looks dreadfully boring outside of occasional interesting situations.

    The only PoE gameplay things that I watch are either the demo runs of new high-end content so that I can be prepared and git gud beforehand, or short showcases of how a build operates in maps, so that I can decide if I want to play it in the future or not.

    Well, ok, watching a RIP compilation or other occasionally is also fun:positive:.




    I really like SSF (especially with all the new 3.0.0 stuff added in), but I hardly have time for it because I just like playing the leagues with economy.
     
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  12. Grunker RPG Codex Ghost Patron

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    I fall asleep to streams, sometimes I eat to them. Only a select few I can bear though, so it all depends on whether they're online
     
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  13. Zdzisiu Arcane

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    Don't try to hide it Mister Reichenstein!
     
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  14. Jason Liang Arcane

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    I like watching Mathil play just so I can experience what this game is supposed to play like were I not playing it on a 7 year old laptop (i.e. no 10 second freeze each time a new mob appears). I don't like watching him durdle with the passive tree.
     
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  15. ArchAngel Arcane

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    Mathil is one of the worst PoE streamers to watch and learn from.
     
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  16. Excidium II Self-Ejected

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    But the risk of permanent loss is the only thing that makes the game engaging since diablos have the most braindead gameplay besides facebook clickers. A different build is just a different particle effect while you spam movement skill of choice and right click in the middle of a pack anyway.
     
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  17. Excidium II Self-Ejected

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    And naturally one of the most popular. :M
     
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  18. Hyperion Magister

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    I enjoyed watching ProjectPT during downtime at work. Just a cynical, grumpy asshole who shat all over Reddit nerds for a living. Could definitely see him having an account on the Codex.

    Shame he quit after the Xbone announcement, especially since he engaged well with his viewers. Was a breath of fresh air to tune into his stream and see someone intentionally play at a slower pace.
     
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  19. SirSingAlot Arbiter

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    i like watching some streams here and there, but surely never POE.
    if i want me some eye cancer and mind formatting, i rather cause those myself
     
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  20. Zdzisiu Arcane

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    I only watch boobie streamers.
     
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  21. Veelq Savant

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    People watch Mathil because he is their dad ofc.

    I personally like to watch smaller streamers that i know are really good and knowledgeable at the game so i can ask some questions in chat and dont get spammed.

    And sometimes i like to watch racers when its short race season.

    some would argue that Mathil is a boobie streamer :codexisfor:
     
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  22. Carceri Arcane

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    Like Cooterz :P
     
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  23. Zdzisiu Arcane

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    Well, we are on the Codex, it is only proper. :D
     
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  24. Deflowerer Arcane

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    Agreed. I'm a newfag to PoE and doing my first run, and despite fucking my build up big time and getting fucked in the ass at every boss from Act 4 onwards, I think the moment I figure out main possibilities I'll go over to HC and never look back.
     
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  25. virgin_newfag Novice

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    :salute:
     
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