Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

[ERYFKRAD]

You don't need Bag of Tricks lol

He does if he's rolling a street magician.

 

[Lyric Suite]

You don't need Bag of Tricks lol

What about canceling lingering spells that's what i was told i should use this thing for.

 

[Lacrymas]

You need to automate buffing somehow, that's non-negotiable. You also need MapCleaner or whatever the mod was that deletes items from the map because otherwise the game loads every single item left in every single map and the loading times become worse and worse. There is one other mod I used, but I forgot which one, I'd have to check. Call of the Wild adds more bloat to an already bloated system.

 

[mondblut]

You also need MapCleaner or whatever the mod was that deletes items from the map because otherwise the game loads every single item left in every single map and the loading times become worse and worse.

You leave items on the map? Do you even RPG?

 

[ERYFKRAD]

You also need MapCleaner or whatever the mod was that deletes items from the map because otherwise the game loads every single item left in every single map and the loading times become worse and worse.

You leave items on the map? Do you even RPG?

I mean, I tried looting the sign posts, turns out they're painted into the background.

 

[Lacrymas]

A lot of mobs drop generic common items that sell for peanuts and just take up encumbrance. Not only that but the game also loads all items you've sold to merchants as well, so they will still influence loading times. It's best to delete them from the save file.

Oh, I remembered the third mod I use - the one which cleans up AoE effects after combat.

 

[mondblut]

A lot of mobs drop generic common items that sell for peanuts and just take up encumbrance.

Oh, I see. What you need, then, is a mod to disable encumbrance. If these "Stolen lands" have the institute of baronship, their scientists clearly should be advanced enough to discover the wondrous secret of employing porters. Maybe wheelcarts even!

 

[Desiderius]

You don't need Bag of Tricks lol

What about canceling lingering spells that's what i was told i should use this thing for.

Heh

I was tempted! Tristian getting trapped for what seemed like ten minutes while his buffs ran out motivated me to figure out a solution in game.

Turned out doing that was useful in combat, and for more than just avoiding Octavia’s surfaces.

People love their Grease I guess. Kalikke can make one that goes away in a round and is infinite use.

 

[Desiderius]

You need to automate buffing somehow, that's non-negotiable. You also need MapCleaner or whatever the mod was that deletes items from the map because otherwise the game loads every single item left in every single map and the loading times become worse and worse. There is one other mod I used, but I forgot which one, I'd have to check. Call of the Wild adds more bloat to an already bloated system.

Currently nearing House on vanilla Hard KM playthrough. The boys have gotten into Old World and Rise of Mankind - A New Dawn so haven’t gotten back to it for a couple weeks.

Buffing can be handled by getting organized and leaning toward classes that don’t need as many. No pets cuts down significantly.

Changing your mind/companions is what takes the time/attention and buffing mods don’t help there since you have to reconfigure anyway.

Loading times not a problem either. Jhod is a merchant if you want to buy/sell in Throne Room.

Just in case I take a moment to drop junk loot after leaving a large location but unconvinced it matters all that much.

 

[Cael]

A lot of mobs drop generic common items that sell for peanuts and just take up encumbrance.

Oh, I see. What you need, then, is a mod to disable encumbrance. If these "Stolen lands" have the institute of baronship, their scientists clearly should be advanced enough to discover the wondrous secret of employing porters. Maybe wheelcarts even!

Just use Animal Companions. When you have 5 of them, encumbrance is something you just ignore.

 

[smaug]

Turning your pet into a dragon in the later game and buffing the fuck out of it is a lot of fun.

 

[mondblut]

Just use Animal Companions. When you have 5 of them, encumbrance is something you just ignore.

Why use animal companions when you can use 12 (or more) normal companions?

Shit you can't even properly level up is even worse than monks.

 

[아파트]

Why suffer poor attack rolls and saving throws when you can add 100+ to their values? Why be content of low HP when it can go over 9000? Why go through the normal leveling process, when you can just set-up your level when you feel like it? Why fight trash mobs when I can just wipe them out with a click? I want to play unfair diffculty but without the unfair part.

"You know I just beat the game. It's not that hard as everyone else is saying. Played in unfair."

 

[Lyric Suite]

I guess this is a good time to break this spergaton and talk about my guy:

Picked half-elf for teh roal playing (plus somehow the character model looks EXACTLY like the portrait. Not that it matters but hey). Human was clearly the superior choice but i just wanted to add a bit of flavour. It's not unfair difficutly so whatever. Since this is going to be a no-reload run i decided to just bump persuasion to the max to get highest chance for a good outcome. The half-elf skill focus feat comes in handy here. I also bumped use magic device so i can use some healing scrolls and such since i'll be also trying to rest as little as possible and may not have a cleric around so. I don't think this needs to be taken sky high so i guess soon enough i'll have an extra point floating around to put into whatever. The third point went to nature lore for the theme (plus supposedly it should help with camping stuff early on). I'll try a mixture of blaster and control since i can't make my mind about one or the other.

Didn't get far yet but so far this game feels like the anti-Pillars. Where the latter was dreary and depressive, this feels like somebody took Baldur's Gate and sprinkled glitter and unicorns over everything lol.

BTW, all the big, muscular frontliners so happen to be wombyn, huh? As a dashing but scrany guy, i guess i'll be having lots of snu snu soon enough.

 

[Desiderius]

Why suffer poor attack rolls and saving throws when you can add 100+ to their values? Why be content of low HP when it can go over 9000? Why go through the normal leveling process, when you can just set-up your level when you feel like it? Why fight trash mobs when I can just wipe them out with a click? I want to play unfair diffculty but without the unfair part.

"You know I just beat the game. It's not that hard as everyone else is saying. Played in unfair."

They do this because they’re old and can’t get it up any more. Know the feeling.

Don’t carry heavy shit. It’s not that hard.

 

[Desiderius]

I guess this is a good time to break this spergaton and talk about my guy:

Picked half-elf for teh roal playing (plus somehow the character model looks EXACTLY like the portrait. Not that it matters but hey). Human was clearly the superior choice but i just wanted to add a bit of flavour. It's not unfair difficutly so whatever. Since this is going to be a no-reload run i decided to just bump persuasion to the max to get highest chance for a good outcome. The half-elf skill focus feat comes in handy here. I also bumped use magic device so i can use some healing scrolls and such since i'll be also trying to rest as little as possible and may not have a cleric around so. I don't think this needs to be taken sky high so i guess soon enough i'll have an extra point floating around to put into whatever. The third point went to nature lore for the theme (plus supposedly it should help with camping stuff early on). I'll try a mixture of blaster and control since i can't make my mind about one or the other.

Didn't get far yet but so far this game feels like the anti-Pillars. Where the latter was dreary and depressive, this feels like somebody took Baldur's Gate and sprinkled glitter and unicorns over everything lol.

BTW, all the big, muscular frontliners so happen to be wombyn, huh? As a dashing but scrany guy, i guess i'll be having lots of snu snu soon enough.

There are no superior choices. Skill Focus is pretty good and you can get Elven Magic. Human gets more skill pts but maxminners don’t care about those anyway.

 

[Old Hans]

You leave items on the map? Do you even RPG?

oh sure it starts off easy picking up the occasional long swords, but eventually it starts getting out of control!!1

 

[Cael]

Just use Animal Companions. When you have 5 of them, encumbrance is something you just ignore.

Why use animal companions when you can use 12 (or more) normal companions?

Shit you can't even properly level up is even worse than monks.

I don't use mods. I play the game as is, unlike the cheaters that suck paiturd's cock.

 

[Lyric Suite]

I guess this is a good time to break this spergaton and talk about my guy:

Picked half-elf for teh roal playing (plus somehow the character model looks EXACTLY like the portrait. Not that it matters but hey). Human was clearly the superior choice but i just wanted to add a bit of flavour. It's not unfair difficutly so whatever. Since this is going to be a no-reload run i decided to just bump persuasion to the max to get highest chance for a good outcome. The half-elf skill focus feat comes in handy here. I also bumped use magic device so i can use some healing scrolls and such since i'll be also trying to rest as little as possible and may not have a cleric around so. I don't think this needs to be taken sky high so i guess soon enough i'll have an extra point floating around to put into whatever. The third point went to nature lore for the theme (plus supposedly it should help with camping stuff early on). I'll try a mixture of blaster and control since i can't make my mind about one or the other.

Didn't get far yet but so far this game feels like the anti-Pillars. Where the latter was dreary and depressive, this feels like somebody took Baldur's Gate and sprinkled glitter and unicorns over everything lol.

BTW, all the big, muscular frontliners so happen to be wombyn, huh? As a dashing but scrany guy, i guess i'll be having lots of snu snu soon enough.

There are no superior choices. Skill Focus is pretty good and you can get Elven Magic. Human gets more skill pts but maxminners don’t care about those anyway.

You mean Elven Magic as a feat? Because half-eves don't have that as a racial trait.

 

[Desiderius]

I guess this is a good time to break this spergaton and talk about my guy:

Picked half-elf for teh roal playing (plus somehow the character model looks EXACTLY like the portrait. Not that it matters but hey). Human was clearly the superior choice but i just wanted to add a bit of flavour. It's not unfair difficutly so whatever. Since this is going to be a no-reload run i decided to just bump persuasion to the max to get highest chance for a good outcome. The half-elf skill focus feat comes in handy here. I also bumped use magic device so i can use some healing scrolls and such since i'll be also trying to rest as little as possible and may not have a cleric around so. I don't think this needs to be taken sky high so i guess soon enough i'll have an extra point floating around to put into whatever. The third point went to nature lore for the theme (plus supposedly it should help with camping stuff early on). I'll try a mixture of blaster and control since i can't make my mind about one or the other.

Didn't get far yet but so far this game feels like the anti-Pillars. Where the latter was dreary and depressive, this feels like somebody took Baldur's Gate and sprinkled glitter and unicorns over everything lol.

BTW, all the big, muscular frontliners so happen to be wombyn, huh? As a dashing but scrany guy, i guess i'll be having lots of snu snu soon enough.

There are no superior choices. Skill Focus is pretty good and you can get Elven Magic. Human gets more skill pts but maxminners don’t care about those anyway.

You mean Elven Magic as a feat? Because half-eves don't have that as a racial trait.

You can get it via Dual-Heritage along with +2 to Will saves in exchange for Adaptability (Skill Focus) and Keen Senses. I like the latter so only take the swap on full casters, but either way worth a Feat (since casters want Spell Pen anyway).

Elven Immunities is also solid. Immunity to Sleep comes up vs Minagho because Phantasmal Putrefaction applies Sleep, and the general +2 vs Enchantments is good vs Nulk, Nabasu, etc...

 

[Lyric Suite]

Well, i'm done with the prologue. Lost the undead bitch (obviously) and the cleric (apparenly he didn't like my "lawful" answer, though i was just trying to be pragmatic and show off my leadership qualities) but gained the pally (who isn't a pally) and the barb who already wants to have snu snu with me even though i really didn't do nothing, the pet did all the killing.

In fact, the pet is overpowered as shit literally mopped the floor with everything while the rest of my party just missed attacks. Grease is also something i casted two of them in the final fight and everybody went to sleep. The barb rushed in and she was proned for the whole fight. I tried to park the cleric and the inquisitor in front of it but i didn't calculate the distance right and they were proned as well. That basically left me with the casters shooting crossbows mostly inefectually through eventually i did manage to wittle down all the mirror images from the group leader (while she laid prone on the floor) while i got the pet to flank the grease area and get the mages who i assumed were controlling the barrier. He instant gibs the first, then touches the edges of the grease moving to the next and gets proned too. The rest of the fight way just shooting at proned people with low BAB characters and hoping the pet would get up and murder/kill everything, which he did. I went to check if there was a way to protect my own characters and there is, but only in Wrath not in Kingmaker lol. I think i need to invest in ranged weapons for melees if i gotta use this without choke points or something. Also, the grease lasted forever and i'm level 1. I didn't install the mod that lets you cancel this shit yet but i think i will at one point.

So right off the bat there's a time limit already. Three months to beat the other team. The writing in this game is hard to describe. It feels it's intentionally written to serve the mechanics and the systems. The barb talks like the amazon women from Futurama because that's what barbs do. All the characters speak in cliches based on their archetype they aren't written as real people. Very reminescent of Baldur's Gate 1, just with a less serious atmosphere (which in BG1 helped compensate for all the comedy stuff). Actually, more than BG1 the writing reminds me of a strategy game or something, like Civilization or something. It has that kind of tone, like it's just there to string togheter the systems and mechanics which are the things you are supposed to care about.

 

[GloomFrost]

Well, i'm done with the prologue. Lost the undead bitch (obviously) and the cleric (apparenly he didn't like my "lawful" answer, though i was just trying to be pragmatic and show off my leadership qualities) but gained the pally (who isn't a pally) and the barb who already wants to have snu snu with me even though i really didn't do nothing, the pet did all the killing.

In fact, the pet is overpowered as shit literally mopped the floor with everything while the rest of my party just missed attacks. Grease is also something i casted two of them in the final fight and everybody went to sleep. The barb rushed in and she was proned for the whole fight. I tried to park the cleric and the inquisitor in front of it but i didn't calculate the distance right and they were proned as well. That basically left me with the casters shooting crossbows mostly inefectually through eventually i did manage to wittle down all the mirror images from the group leader (while she laid prone on the floor) while i got the pet to flank the grease area and get the mages who i assumed were controlling the barrier. He instant gibs the first, then touches the edges of the grease moving to the next and gets proned too. The rest of the fight way just shooting at proned people with low BAB characters and hoping the pet would get up and murder/kill everything, which he did. I went to check if there was a way to protect my own characters and there is, but only in Wrath not in Kingmaker lol. I think i need to invest in ranged weapons for melees if i gotta use this without choke points or something. Also, the grease lasted forever and i'm level 1. I didn't install the mod that lets you cancel this shit yet but i think i will at one point.

So right off the bat there's a time limit already. Three months to beat the other team. The writing in this game is hard to describe. It feels it's intentionally written to serve the mechanics and the systems. The barb talks like the amazon women from Futurama because that's what barbs do. All the characters speak in cliches based on their archetype they aren't written as real people. Very reminescent of Baldur's Gate 1, just with a less serious atmosphere (which in BG1 helped compensate for all the comedy stuff). Actually, more than BG1 the writing reminds me of a strategy game or something, like Civilization or something. It has that kind of tone, like it's just there to string togheter the systems and mechanics which are the things you are supposed to care about.

Kingmaker is perhaps the last cRPG with that kind of classic fantasy atmosphere. It needs to be cherished if anything. Also don't worry about the time limit too much. You got plenty of time to get all the exploration and side content completed.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Well, considering all the "wokeness" i was expecting full on cringe millennial writing but this game appears to be something else. I mean it's less edgy than Princess Bride (was thinking about that since the gnome reminded me of Vizzini).

So i got my first encounter and i'm already got my self killed. The two NPCs dropping out re-arranged my formation and my main got put in front and instantly got dropped by some tigers or whatever, but apparently once a character drops to zero the AI switches target? I thought i was a goner instead after the fight my dude got back up.

Also had to take the shield off Valerie she can't hit shit and she can't compel anyone to hit her. The way the AI seems to work if a mob is melee they'll target whoever is in their path so to have your meat shields in front works but ranged enemies go straight for my backline.

The barb chick and the pet saved the party. I think i would have been better off with the cleric. Also, i had no idea bard songs have a limit in past games it's just something you turn on and off.

 

[Average Manatee]

The first chapter time limit is not very important to rush, 3 months is way more than enough (there's a small reward for doing it in under 1 month which is pretty easy on replays). But when you finish chapter 1 you start the real timer for the entire rest of the game, so fully clearing the area available in chapter 1 is a good idea.

 

[mondblut]

Why suffer poor attack rolls and saving throws when you can add 100+ to their values? Why be content of low HP when it can go over 9000? Why go through the normal leveling process, when you can just set-up your level when you feel like it? Why fight trash mobs when I can just wipe them out with a click?

If you know better than the developers (and some of us do), by all means, knock yourself out. They aren't that special as some might think.