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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

Discussion in 'Owlcat Games' started by Elex, Nov 20, 2018.

  1. LannTheStupid Товарищ Patron

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    She beat Fredero in my game. Nothing's wrong with her fighting skills.
     
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  2. Stavrophore Kalin was right all along. Patron

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    In my game she beat fredero too, while being high on mutagen and literally six other potions.
     
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    Kingmaker just has so many layers of cringe D&D soy garbage.... but don't worry, one of them is a subversive commentary!
     
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    Kingmaker fans accept wommenz in melee and caricatured slavery without batting an eye and then think they're not SJWs :lol:
     
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  5. Stavrophore Kalin was right all along. Patron

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    Kingmaker has huge lore, but there's too many copypasted gods and places that no one will memorize because they are uninteresting and don't influence the core plot. It will pop once in some side quest and then vanish from the world and storymaking forever.
     
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  7. Stavrophore Kalin was right all along. Patron

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    Well we are discussing PC game here not pathfinder tabeltop. Idk what's your point?
     
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  8. Inhabitants of Khorinis Educated

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    Oh noo! Not women in armour! Anything but women in armour!
     
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  9. Stavrophore Kalin was right all along. Patron

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    I don't accept or even sympathize with these women ironclad fighter/barbarian characters. I find it fake and superfluous so i disregard the story around them and their yabbering. Just like you would suspend your belief if Jenkem started a chat with you and told you about satanic portal under your bed -let him talk and only ask about essence of the matter to end the quest and further down the story. So far jubilost is most reasonable character, albeit while claiming that truth is the most important for him, not fake appeareance, he still do the PR stuff like wearing glasses to have easier time to share his wisdom among his audience.
     
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  10. Inhabitants of Khorinis Educated

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    I'm pretty sure if I lived in !THE FICTIONAL CITY OF KENABRES! and someone told me there's a demonic portal under my bed, I'd probably listen to them.
     
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  11. Stavrophore Kalin was right all along. Patron

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    The analogy wasn't talking about ingame world. And yes we construe and respond to things in game through the lenses of our own experience, our own real world, our inclinations, upbringing and ideologies we currently adhere or the one that resonate with us. Even in fantasy if something is too batshit improbable, insane, i just write it as shitty lore, shitty writing and generally a shock value to the crowd called "that was deep MAAAAAN, proper mindfuck, i need to smoke a joint" dumbfucks.
     
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  12. LannTheStupid Товарищ Patron

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    In the world of Golarion and its encompassing lore gods, demons and other powers have their complete stories. In a short story of taming the Stolen Lands - which happens in the small part of the world of Golarion - some of those entities have the main role, some have brief appearances, and some are only mentioned in passing.

    I think you need to consult with your doctor. Your dementia is clearly out of control.

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    It's even worse than I thought...
     
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  13. Stavrophore Kalin was right all along. Patron

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    Nice writeup bro, but you seem to not understand simple words. I've told you in earlier post that IN MY OPINION this is shit narrative wise. You can have different opinion on that. You know, people like different games, and different things in games. Are you twelve to not understand this?
     
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    Wish I had this much free time to play games I don't like and complain about them on the interwebz, oh wait, I'd rather do literally anything else.
     
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  15. Stavrophore Kalin was right all along. Patron

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    Also i've talked about women in iron, and somehow the arguments pertaining shit i find improbable in this phenomena, got intertwined by LannTheStupid with my discussion about gods where i haven't said anything about it being improbable -just plain boring sidequest worthy trash tier minigods that doesn't have influence on core game. Talk about lack of reading comprehension.

    The education in rusland is getting worse year by year it seems.
     
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    I wouldn't say a woman putting on some plate armour and swinging a piece of metal around is "batshit unprobable", especially when that woman is an obvious Joan of Arc Rip-off. Bche, Joan of Arc, what a lazy writing.
    But hey I guess it's more realistic than using DEX for bows and STR for melee weapons rather that the other way around.
     
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  17. Stavrophore Kalin was right all along. Patron

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    That was by the way, specific critique of some weirdness in games, example -Torment: Tides of Numenera. Too weird for me tbh. I don't like this shit in games, i like mystery not weirdness, i like consistency in lore and world building. /Rant off.
    The paragraph wasn't about women specifically.

    Isn't dex for accuracy[hit chance] and str for damage modifier for bows and throwing weapons like darts? That make some sense imho.
     
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    She's not "mannish", the artist just skimped on her makeup to illustrate character traits, e.g. serious, pragmatic, resilient. Compare below the original portrait on the left with some Reddit guy's makeover on the right, anatomy-wise he only tweaked her eyes a bit, the rest is just scowl and makeup.

    [​IMG]
     
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  19. Grunker RPG Codex Ghost Patron

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    we're in a world where you can make 15 hardened veteran soldiers run in panic by swinging your sword around real dashing-like, no supernatural elements involved. but it's women in armor that make you guys decry the sad state of high fantasy realism. fucking nerds, go get laid for heaven’s sake
     
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  20. LannTheStupid Товарищ Patron

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    I did not get that.

    But, you know, if "swinging your sword" comes the Baron of the local lands who (presumably) has an army - then it's probably wise for 15 soldiers to flee. Or at least form up and defend themselves properly, which is not that easy without armor.
     
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  21. Grunker RPG Codex Ghost Patron

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    you read the fluff of dazzling display + thug very differently than i do
     
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  22. LannTheStupid Товарищ Patron

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    Well, then "15 hardened veteran soldiers" would probably have the will high enough to save from the dazzling display.
     
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  23. Grunker RPG Codex Ghost Patron

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    oh yes. for instance a grizzled mercenary with his mighty +3 Will save (i picked a favourable example for you - veteran soldiers have +2). it seems you are as bad at the rules as you are at proportions

    arguing the realism of the pathfinder ruleset. this place never ceases to amaze me
     
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  24. Stavrophore Kalin was right all along. Patron

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    If any semblance to reality is not important we can start making rpgs with rulesets where strength is responsible for magic, and intelligence is for how hard you hit someone with that two handed axe. Im sure you will find big audience -probably around pot smokers and pseudointelectuals, who will try to find some hidden, deep meaning.
     
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  25. Grunker RPG Codex Ghost Patron

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    so why aren't you arguing the realism of a level 1 fighter level 1 thug being able to make a seasoned veteran run to mama in a fit of blitstering panic by waving his sword around
     
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