KickStarter Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Kyl Von Kull]

Anybody knows what kind of weapons does the traitorrous elf apprentice (Sartayne) make if you allow him to be your weaponsmith? is the pattern the same with the his old master? So far I havent seen any of the artisans specialyzing in scimitar / estoc kind of weapons. Might he be the one?

I dunno about Sartayne but Nazrielle can make you a +3 Acid Scimitar or a +4 Holy Scimitar (but you might need to upgrade Kamelands to a City for that).
As far as estocs, you might be hooped because I haven't found any better than a +1 Agile that I can remember.

Estocs:
Forsaken Edge +2 unholy—Vordakai’s tomb
You can buy a +4 estoc in Pitax
Blinding Light +5 estoc with a 3X critical multiplier that blinds on criticals—some merchant near the end

There could be more, but I haven’t seen anything to suggest that any of the artisans make estocs.

 

[Reinhardt]

Nazrielle keep spamming me with rapiers.

 

[vazha]

Anybody knows what kind of weapons does the traitorrous elf apprentice (Sartayne) make if you allow him to be your weaponsmith? is the pattern the same with the his old master? So far I havent seen any of the artisans specialyzing in scimitar / estoc kind of weapons. Might he be the one?

I dunno about Sartayne but Nazrielle can make you a +3 Acid Scimitar or a +4 Holy Scimitar (but you might need to upgrade Kamelands to a City for that).
As far as estocs, you might be hooped because I haven't found any better than a +1 Agile that I can remember.

You're right, she does indeed make a couple of good scimitars. So maybe the other guy does estocs? So far I've found +2 unholy(useless enchantment) estoc and that's it.
Also, any idea what's required for that maharaja lady to start giving me weapons again? It's been three months since she's delivered a gift and I did all of her quests. Also afaik she specializes in fauchards - what do I need to get her make one? Have her village into a town so far.

I think the Fauchard is her masterpiece, so she needs a city. You might just have to upgrade and wait.
On the other hand it could always just be bugged out.

according to this thread, she's got at least three of them and all three are very good.

 

[Lawntoilet]

Nazrielle keep spamming me with rapiers.

I think if you ask her for a sword, she'll keep bringing you the same sword until you either upgrade her or manually tell her to make something else. It seems like artisans default to whatever you asked them for last time, instead of defaulting to the "make whatever you want" option like they probably should do.

 

[Reinhardt]

Nah, i must every time order dwarf guy to bring me armor and tailor to bring me robes or they just do whatever.
Well, it's not like i need something else from elf lady anyway.

 

[Lord Andre]

Man, the kingdom management interface is fucking retarded . Couldn't they have software rendered that shit or something? It's a map and some buttons ffs, must we really go through a gorrilion loading screens to look at some numbers and read some flavor text. You could code that shit with a few pngs and a shitty scripting language and it would pop up instantly... Jesus!

FFS
Fucking dumb interns.

 

[Israfael]

So, I've met Cleve. Is he actually related to codex quest or not? I just had some funny dialogue with him, nothing else (and some interesting loot in his furniture). Do i get it correctly that grimoire is a one-use item?

 

[Jasede]

Are Animal Companions just OP in Pathfinder? Even just half-way buffed that 'dog' from Ekan can have 40+ STR, biting for ~33 damage and never failing a trip...

 

[panda]

Do i get it correctly that grimoire is a one-use item?

One use per day.

 

[vazha]

Are Animal Companions just OP in Pathfinder? Even just half-way buffed that 'dog' from Ekan can have 40+ STR, biting for ~33 damage and never failing a trip...

Up the difficulty.

 

[Cael]

Didn't somebody say Freedom of Movement protects from the Greater Shout stun? That's definitely not the case.

It shouldn't. Freedom of Movement stops anything that impedes your movement. Stun is a mental condition. The end result is the same (i.e., you are paralysed/can't move) but the mechanisms for getting there are different. FoM only protects against one of them.

 

[drgames]

Do not pick Lander Lebeda.

 

[Jasede]

Are Animal Companions just OP in Pathfinder? Even just half-way buffed that 'dog' from Ekan can have 40+ STR, biting for ~33 damage and never failing a trip...

Up the difficulty.

You know what? I won't. In Vordakai's tomb, every single critical hit by a Cyclops will /kill/ one of my party members. they have upwards of 30 AB or so. There's HUNDREDS of them.

 

[Damned Registrations]

Do not pick Lander Lebeda.

You know, I would have gone with the default I think, but since picking him will apparently piss off everyone in game AND some stranger on the internet, fuck it, Lander it is!

Edit: Also, the banquet scene is hilarious with all these animal companions. It's like a fucking petting zoo. Wish I had leveled up the members I wasn't using and given them bears or mammoths or something.

 

[Lawntoilet]

Do not pick Lander Lebeda.

You're not wrong, but it was so satisfying

Spoiler

to say you're going to let that little shit stay dead instead of bringing him back. Also they have fixed the project to deal with his spies, so that's OK now.

 

[Perkel]

Just installed it.
Oh my word... character creator is pure ui porn.

 

[aweigh]

is Dazzling Display a trap pick?

Also, is one of the companions a Ranger? I went over their stuff and the favored enemy mechanics seem very good and now I want one. Who said Rangers were bad!!!!!1

 

[ArchAngel]

is Dazzling Display a trap pick?

Also, is one of the companions a Ranger? I went over their stuff and the favored enemy mechanics seem very good and now I want one. Who said Rangers were bad!!!!!1

One of the two best companions is a ranger.

 

[Shadenuat]

Dazzling Display is not really a "trap pick", but you need to know what you are doing and why.

Aside from -2 to attack which is meh, Shaken provides -2 to all saves. If you manage to stack it with other things which lower saves (Enchantment, Diviner, Necromancy - note it also has Shaken in it though, like, Doom is level 1 spell on Clerics list) and play it well into your action management routine (because it is a good idea to actually spend a round and activate it right before you hit them with some spell), you can achieve interesting things targeting correct enemy saves.

Granted well built Caster easily overcomes correct saves on Hard, but it might be reasonable combo on Unfair.

Note you need pretty high value in it, I managed to reach err +45 I believe on 2 Handed Fighter, which auto-Shakens basically anything - regardless of saves and spell resistance. But I picked like Feats for intimidate and all that stuff.

Personally I prefer just casting 2 spells instead of 1 but if you like combos wombos it's okay I guess.

This Feat would have had more value if game followed the rule of only Highest level spell affecting enemy at one moment, because as for now you can spam various metamagic-ed CC spells stunlocking stuff even with high saving throws. And same with area damaging spells of course.

 

[Jasede]

I saw screenshots of other people's capital looking way cooler than mine. I think my capital still looks like a village even though it's upgraded...

 

[vazha]

is Dazzling Display a trap pick?

Also, is one of the companions a Ranger? I went over their stuff and the favored enemy mechanics seem very good and now I want one. Who said Rangers were bad!!!!!1

Obama is a ranger. Very worth a monk (sensei) dip at around lvl 11-12.

 

[aweigh]

Wait, there's actually a char named Obama?

 

[vazha]

O, Black Archer Man, Awesome! - OBAMA.

 

[aweigh]

Ooh, I had thought: what about some syngergy between Dazzling Display and the Thug's Sneak Attack?

 

[Jasede]

He's just messing with you. But you do get a party-member named Kunta Kinte who is black.