KickStarter Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[ga♥]

Never had the gloves. The cloak is cursed.Regarding the ring of reckless courage... it has too many negative effects tbqh. At best it can be situational when you have a fight you can't win and you need that +2 DC on mind affecting things. So far I never had to use it. Same story for the cloak.

In min-maxing, lies the truth, my child. You don't need much con as a necromancer(In fact, two casters specializing in necromancy and enchantment have a wonderful sinergy), and if you're wizard and a -2 on will saves makes you vulnerable, then you aren't much of a wizard in the first place.

The ring is a whooping -3 on will saves.Anyway I think it depends on what difficulty are you playing. I am playing on a custom with "normal stats "normal crits", damage to party 1.0, and I disabled death's door. So far, I am a lvl15 conjurer (which I regret picking,evoker or necro would have been much better), fights are not hard anymore so I don't need to squeeze everything.

 

[Jasede]

The helmet is amazing, I don't remember offhand but it's +6 WIS/CON and 10/- DR or something of that magnitude.

It's +6 WIS/CHA not con. And gives some DR against bludgeoning. It's pretty cool. And everyone can use it AFAIK.

So basically a superior version to the headband of perfection/crown if you dumped your int? damn.

That's ridiculous for d20. If that's their sense of balancing stuff I'm really concerned...

Honestly, that's pretty standard. D&D was always kind of shit with loot unless you have a low-level low-magic loving DM. It's perfectly normal to have +4 gear at level 14-16, and this game reflects that. If finding a +4 STR/DEX belt disgusts you this is not the game for you.

Also that's a late, lategame helmet. It'd be useless if it were weaker - which, again, is normal in D&D at these levels.

 

[vazha]

Never had the gloves. The cloak is cursed.Regarding the ring of reckless courage... it has too many negative effects tbqh. At best it can be situational when you have a fight you can't win and you need that +2 DC on mind affecting things. So far I never had to use it. Same story for the cloak.

In min-maxing, lies the truth, my child. You don't need much con as a necromancer(In fact, two casters specializing in necromancy and enchantment have a wonderful sinergy), and if you're wizard and a -2 on will saves makes you vulnerable, then you aren't much of a wizard in the first place.

The ring is a whooping -3 on will saves.Anyway I think it depends on what difficulty are you playing. I am playing on a custom with "normal stats" "normal crits" and I disabled death's door. So far, I am a lvl15 conjurer (which I regret picking), fights are not hard anymore so I don't need to squeeze everything.

So we are having, ahem, an appendage measure contest here? Playing on unfair, with every difficulty maxed and that rings a lifesaver. Especially considering my mainchar is a pally and I can do the cha to saves trick (minute per level, at that!) to Octavia. As for the necro cloak... Well, Tristian isn't complaining, possibly due to his earlier cock-ups. But it's real handy to boneshatter bosses and then plague-swarm their minions. My melee dudes, including nok-nok just stand there, yawning, while Octavia and Tristian do all the work and BAM does his sniping thing.

 

[ga♥]

So we are having, ahem, an appendage measure contest here? Playing on unfair, with every difficulty maxed and that rings a lifesaver. Especially considering my mainchar is a pally and I can do the cha to saves trick (minute per level, at that!) to Octavia. As for the necro cloak... Well, Tristian isn't complaining, possibly due to his earlier cock-ups. But it's real handy to boneshatter bosses and then plague-swarm their minions. My melee dudes, including nok-nok just stand there, yawning, while Octavia and Tristian do all the work and BAM does his sniping thing.

Exactly, I can see how on higher difficulties, on the right char, in the right fight, the ring (or cloak) can be awesome. But that's I what already said. It's situational. We are not talking about a "Carsomyr: Holy avenger" situation.

 

[Jasede]

I mean... that's situational too! The situation being, you are fielding a Paladin that uses 2-handed weapons - far from being a given. Your counter-argument: well, yeah, but Keldorn joins you and he's a powerful Paladin that uses 2-handed weapons! And my counterpoint: yes, but in this game, a dwarven Cleric straight up built for Necromancy joins you, too. He can really benefit from that cloak! As could the waifu elf, if you wanted to build her for that.

Personally haven't found a good use for the ring yet. We talking about the +2d6 sneak attack damage ring? If I put that on Nok-Nok he turns my party into bloody ribbons in 2 seconds.

 

[ga♥]

I mean... that's situational too! The situation being, you are fielding a Paladin that uses 2-handed weapons - far from being a given. Your counter-argument: well, yeah, but Keldorn joins you and he's a powerful Paladin that uses 2-handed weapons! And my counterpoint: yes, but in this game, a dwarven Cleric straight up built for Necromancy joins you, too. He can really benefit from that cloak! As could the waifu elf, if you wanted to build her for that.

Personally haven't found a good use for the ring yet. We talking about the +2d6 sneak attack damage ring? If I put that on Nok-Nok he turns my party into bloody ribbons in 2 seconds.

It's a different ring. Also, if this game had proper mages, and proper magic battles that -3 to will saves would rape you.
The cloak to Jatheifu seems a nice idea; especially if you have her ranged, since she has no CON.

P.S carsomyr can be used by everyone with the thief Use any item or how it was called.

 

[vazha]

I mean... that's situational too! The situation being, you are fielding a Paladin that uses 2-handed weapons - far from being a given. Your counter-argument: well, yeah, but Keldorn joins you and he's a powerful Paladin that uses 2-handed weapons! And my counterpoint: yes, but in this game, a dwarven Cleric straight up built for Necromancy joins you, too. He can really benefit from that cloak! As could the waifu elf, if you wanted to build her for that.

Personally haven't found a good use for the ring yet. We talking about the +2d6 sneak attack damage ring? If I put that on Nok-Nok he turns my party into bloody ribbons in 2 seconds.

No that's an amulet. The ring gives

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+4 (stacking!) bonus to cha, 4 to critical confirmation rolls, 4 to trickery and 2 DC on mind affecting spells (notwithstanding the school - any CC spellcaster will benefit from it) and a -2 penalty to Wisdom, further -2 penalty to will saves, -4 to perception and skill checks, -10 against traps (basically warns you not to use it if octavia is your main traps specialist.

Well worth it if you ask me.

 

[Jasede]

I mean... that's situational too! The situation being, you are fielding a Paladin that uses 2-handed weapons - far from being a given. Your counter-argument: well, yeah, but Keldorn joins you and he's a powerful Paladin that uses 2-handed weapons! And my counterpoint: yes, but in this game, a dwarven Cleric straight up built for Necromancy joins you, too. He can really benefit from that cloak! As could the waifu elf, if you wanted to build her for that.

Personally haven't found a good use for the ring yet. We talking about the +2d6 sneak attack damage ring? If I put that on Nok-Nok he turns my party into bloody ribbons in 2 seconds.

It's a different ring. Also, if this game had proper mages, and proper magic battles that -3 to will saves would rape you.
The cloak to Jatheifu seems a nice idea; especially if you have her ranged, since she has no CON.

P.S carsomyr can be used by everyone with the thief Use any item or how it was called.

Not if you don't have ToB, which is meh anyway.

 

[ga♥]

You get also confused for 1d4 rounds if someone crits you.

 

[vazha]

Also, regarding the companion quests, Regongar

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Just got a veeeery nifty cloak (something a fighter would kill for) that only he can use. Bastard.

 

[ga♥]

Also, regarding the companion quests, Regongar

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Just got a veeeery nifty cloak (something a fighter would kill for) that only he can use. Bastard.

On my playtrough it bugged out and I got two of them.

 

[Jasede]

Grrrr this is what I get for trusting...

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a black guy:

 

[Parabalus]

Is there an overview of the artefact fragments and where to find them? I don't think I've managed to complete ONE of those in 200 hours of play time.

Some aren't in the game yet, bugs galore.

Here's a list, the necklace is especially great for how soon you get it. Insane on Nok-Nok.

 

[Jasede]

How is that necklace usable? Won't he just explode any party member that so much as wanders past him?

 

[Parabalus]

How is that necklace usable? Won't he just explode any party member that so much as wanders past him?

I think that part's bugged, never had him explode anyone.

 

[fantadomat]

Nigro boy is getting killed fast,his whole quest line is pointless and retarded. He is maybe the most pointless character in story aspect. Everyone have some....interesting quests while his is to help him bone a white blond trash. Next time he is getting turned in to a red mush with his stupid dog. I dislike pointless characters,i always give all the characters on a first playtrough,but this one is just soo forced and meaningless.

 

[Jasede]

Pointless?! He's given to the party so clueless shitters can survive the trolls - and even with him some people say they're 'too hard'!

Anyway, mechanically he's absolutely amazing, the second highest DPS next to Nok-Nok, and the highest ranged. Absolutely insanely consistent. He can fire arrows like he were some titanic angel of destruction, thanks to his OP stat spread. The animal companion is insanely OP as well, able to trip anything and everything at will.

 

[ga♥]

Nigro boy is getting killed fast,his whole quest line is pointless and retarded. He is maybe the most pointless character in story aspect. Everyone have some....interesting quests while his is to help him bone a white blond trash. Next time he is getting turned in to a red mush with his stupid dog. I dislike pointless characters,i always give all the characters on a first playtrough,but this one is just soo forced and meaningless.

Valerie and Amiri plots are much worse.
Also

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I never levelup up black man archer, so he was like, liv3 or something, with 0 items.
This made his quest, when he goes fight the Giants a nightmare. He basically insta died one shotted by the giants (and it's a game over, game forced you to reload).
Fun time.

 

[vazha]

Nigro boy is getting killed fast,his whole quest line is pointless and retarded. He is maybe the most pointless character in story aspect. Everyone have some....interesting quests while his is to help him bone a white blond trash. Next time he is getting turned in to a red mush with his stupid dog. I dislike pointless characters,i always give all the characters on a first playtrough,but this one is just soo forced and meaningless.

What are you playing him as, a tank? How on earth do you get Ekun killed, never happened to me once. Spellcasters, clerics - yes, but OBAMA has a very, very nice AC to boost his survival and shoots things like from yards off.

 

[Jasede]

And in my game he's killing his 3 giants faster than my party can kill their 2 giants, despite having Nok-Nok - because he's ranged and he can brutalize them before Nok-Nok can get in range.

 

[fantadomat]

Pointless?! He's given to the party so clueless shitters can survive the trolls - and even with him some people say they're 'too hard'!

Anyway, mechanically he's absolutely amazing, the second highest DPS next to Nok-Nok, and the highest ranged. Absolutely insanely consistent. He can fire arrows like he were some titanic angel of destruction, thanks to his OP stat spread. The animal companion is insanely OP as well, able to trip anything and everything at will.

I never used him in my party and wiped the floor with the trolls,they are far too easy compared to the first chapter. They should be buffed with double damage and double health!!! It is retarded that a bear is harder than 50 trolls that die in a round!

 

[Reinhardt]

Congrats. Maybe you can even try normal difficulty in next playtrough.

 

[fantadomat]

Nigro boy is getting killed fast,his whole quest line is pointless and retarded. He is maybe the most pointless character in story aspect. Everyone have some....interesting quests while his is to help him bone a white blond trash. Next time he is getting turned in to a red mush with his stupid dog. I dislike pointless characters,i always give all the characters on a first playtrough,but this one is just soo forced and meaningless.

What are you playing him as, a tank? How on earth do you get Ekun killed, never happened to me once. Spellcasters, clerics - yes, but OBAMA has a very, very nice AC to boost his survival and shoots things like from yards off.

He is a op companion,i am not arguing about his usefulness in a party. I just don't like how he is written,i kill him by attacking him during the first meeting. He is the most SJW written character in the whole game. He is a pointless to the main story,his whole quest is to kill some troll and get to fuck some chick.

 

[Reinhardt]

his whole quest is to kill some troll and get to fuck some chick.

So basically he's just regular man. His masculinity is too toxic for your taste or what?

 

[fantadomat]

Congrats. Maybe you can even try normal difficulty in next playtrough.

Learn to build your party! Stop whining how hard the game is! After level 5-6 it becomes incredibly easy.