Desiderius
Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard
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They… don’t get better from there since the Rowdy levels are now dead. You would have delayed getting the main benefits of the class for three/four lvls for a marginal benefit. Glad you saw the light. Rowdy is kind of a meme anyway since half the benefit of Debilitating is landing Rogue iteratives (Rogue gets much bigger benefit for itself) which Rowdy doesn’t use and it often hits so hard that Debilitating no longer matters. Alch can give Rowdy True Strike BTW.The Slayer is not a front line fighter and is not going to be in a position to be targeted often, my two riders were going to be my front rank. I decided to go with Vanguard for the Rowdy/Slayer in the end, anyway. Studied on slayer is an immediate +1 at first level; Rowdy 4/Slayer 1 is BAB 4 (+1 studied) vs rowdy 5 BAB +3 which is a noticeable benefit. Things just get better from there.The other subrace trades Ferocity for +1 all saves and +2 Nature Lore while keeping the Weapon familiarity (the main benefit of playing Half-Orc on a non-Martial). Why do you need Skilled? Sounds like you’re hyper concerned with very early game which Leopard + lvl 3 Barkskin + Iceplant all really help with. Does Shaman not get Prot Align? Cam does.
Since you’re starting late on your Slayer the Studied + full BAB isnt going to do much for awhile and as you’ve pointed out half the benefit from full BAB (faster iteratives) will be wasted in any case. Since Rowdy is always attacking at full AB the 3/4 is less of an issue and you’ve got a Booter and Alchemist to buff that a ton. Add in Hampering Hex and you shouldn’t have any issue at all, at least one that trashing your whole base class for a couple AB is going to solve.
because I hate Ferocity
Splashes Deliverer :facepalm:
Moving towards taking a Kitsune Arcane Rider and an Aasimar Ecclesitheurge rather than Human Cleric of Erastil and a Tiefling Incense Synthesizer.
Was trying to make sure every skill was adequately covered in the party and I needed the +1 point/level for human-raised (which meant I could dump Int to 7 on him and still pick up Perception and Knowledge: Religion with full skill ranks).
The trick on Vanguard will be finding some way to buff Studied Target to make Vanguard’s Bond suck less, though I’d assume that Defensive Study should work with it so wouldn’t be awful.
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