Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition - now with The Lord of Nothing DLC

[Average Manatee]

Are there any PnP Pathfinder feats/whatever to make heavy armor decent that Owlcat is just not adding? Or do we need to hope for them to invent some OC donut steal mythic feat/ability in a future DLC or update?

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

Is it even an RPG anymore if heavy armor is decent? It needs to be either insanely overpowered or useless entirely, that's the law.

 

[santino27]

Are there any PnP Pathfinder feats/whatever to make heavy armor decent that Owlcat is just not adding? Or do we need to hope for them to invent some OC donut steal mythic feat/ability in a future DLC or update?

TT adds some mythic abilities for armor, as well as fighter armor training feats.

 

[Mr. Magniloquent]

So I turned my video settings down to the lowest possible, and I was able to load the first encounter with Minagho without the massive graphical system crash. After the cutscene I immediately maxed them out again, and so far I've had no issue. Something about that scene must have caused some kind of memory leak, I guess.

Update: Everything was fine until I got to the market square, then I had the same issue. Not sure why some cutscenes do it and others don't. I will try messing with my anti-aliasing settings. I suspect that's the issue.

 

[Apostle Hand]

is mutation warrior/hellknight good build?

 

[Yosharian]

Mutation Warrior/Anything is good

 

[Yosharian]

A lot of class choices depend on your Mythic path

 

[Apostle Hand]

So I must do some right thing to unlock hellknight at level 5? Fuck that.

 

[Yosharian]

So I must do some right thing to unlock hellknight at level 5? Fuck that.

What do you mean, 'some right thing'? You just need to put some points into a couple of skills, lol. Compared to some other PrCs, HK is a fucking breeze.

 

[Apostle Hand]

Ah, I misunderstood your post, sorry

 

[Average Manatee]

Mutation Warrior/Anything is good

Good to know. Mutation Warrior 10/Metamorph 10 LETS GO

 

[Yosharian]

Ah, I misunderstood your post, sorry

Ok I see the issue, no what I meant was that the meta concerning what classes you pick depends on your Mythic path.

For example, certain Divine classes are insanely good on the Angel path because of spellbook merging.

Basically if you want more info you need to decide on your Mythic path, otherwise all we can give you is generic build advice

 

[Yosharian]

For example if you go Demon there is a really powerful SS/MW build that exploits Demon's INT bonus

 

[mondblut]

Is it even an RPG anymore if heavy armor is decent? It needs to be either insanely overpowered or useless entirely, that's the law.

Being insanely overpowered is the whole point, otherwise why even bother? Nobody would stomp around with 40 pounds of metal on his back if prancing in pajamas would have been a viable alternative.

3ed killed armor when it introduced dex penalties.

 

[razvedchiki]

for dual wield is mutation warrior or (spawn) slayer better dps wise? using trickster for the crit feats then legend or i will stay trickster.

 

[Average Manatee]

for dual wield is mutation warrior or (spawn) slayer better dps wise? using trickster for the crit feats then legend or i will stay trickster.

Just as it is, Mutation Warrior, but the advantage of Slayer is that you get TWF for free without paying the feat or more importantly attribute score tax.

 

[razvedchiki]

the fighter has the feats to burn, with slayer anyway i always take menacing for the shatter.

 

[Haplo]

for dual wield is mutation warrior or (spawn) slayer better dps wise? using trickster for the crit feats then legend or i will stay trickster.

Just as it is, Mutation Warrior, but the advantage of Slayer is that you get TWF for free without paying the feat or more importantly attribute score tax.

The other advantage of Slayer is the Dispelling Attack.

 

[Yosharian]

Yeah DA is pretty sick. Probably second most powerful martial ability next to Dimension Strike/Prescient Attack.

DA is how Legend remains relevant compared to Mythic path powers IMO, CL40 dispel-on-hit wrecks.

 

[ga♥]

for dual wield is mutation warrior or (spawn) slayer better dps wise? using trickster for the crit feats then legend or i will stay trickster.

Just as it is, Mutation Warrior, but the advantage of Slayer is that you get TWF for free without paying the feat or more importantly attribute score tax.

Fake news.
Slayer > Mutation warrior for DPS because of sneak attacks.
Fighter get higher AB.

 

[Yosharian]

for dual wield is mutation warrior or (spawn) slayer better dps wise? using trickster for the crit feats then legend or i will stay trickster.

Just as it is, Mutation Warrior, but the advantage of Slayer is that you get TWF for free without paying the feat or more importantly attribute score tax.

Fake news.
Slayer > Mutation warrior for DPS because of sneak attacks.
Fighter get higher AB.

Ehhh Sneak Attacks are nice but don't scale as strongly as base damage in Wrath IMO

MW gets Weapon Training & Specialization, that's pretty strong. Of course, you could just dip MW 5 and go Slayer for the rest

 

[ga♥]

for dual wield is mutation warrior or (spawn) slayer better dps wise? using trickster for the crit feats then legend or i will stay trickster.

Just as it is, Mutation Warrior, but the advantage of Slayer is that you get TWF for free without paying the feat or more importantly attribute score tax.

Fake news.
Slayer > Mutation warrior for DPS because of sneak attacks.
Fighter get higher AB.

Ehhh Sneak Attacks are nice but don't scale as strongly as base damage in Wrath IMO

MW gets Weapon Training & Specialization, that's pretty strong. Of course, you could just dip MW 5 and go Slayer for the rest

beside mixing pure slayer does more dmg that pure mw. specialization is +2 dmg... seriously?

 

[Yosharian]

for dual wield is mutation warrior or (spawn) slayer better dps wise? using trickster for the crit feats then legend or i will stay trickster.

Just as it is, Mutation Warrior, but the advantage of Slayer is that you get TWF for free without paying the feat or more importantly attribute score tax.

Fake news.
Slayer > Mutation warrior for DPS because of sneak attacks.
Fighter get higher AB.

Ehhh Sneak Attacks are nice but don't scale as strongly as base damage in Wrath IMO

MW gets Weapon Training & Specialization, that's pretty strong. Of course, you could just dip MW 5 and go Slayer for the rest

beside mixing pure slayer does more dmg that pure mw. specialization is +2 dmg... seriously?

It's up to +7 damage, +9 if you get greater WS, because of Mythic weapon spec. Weapon Training is also +3 damage minimum. When you factor in weapon crits, these relatively small damage increases start to add up, big time, whereas Sneak Dice are only ever linear.

 

[ga♥]

for dual wield is mutation warrior or (spawn) slayer better dps wise? using trickster for the crit feats then legend or i will stay trickster.

Just as it is, Mutation Warrior, but the advantage of Slayer is that you get TWF for free without paying the feat or more importantly attribute score tax.

Fake news.
Slayer > Mutation warrior for DPS because of sneak attacks.
Fighter get higher AB.

Ehhh Sneak Attacks are nice but don't scale as strongly as base damage in Wrath IMO

MW gets Weapon Training & Specialization, that's pretty strong. Of course, you could just dip MW 5 and go Slayer for the rest

beside mixing pure slayer does more dmg that pure mw. specialization is +2 dmg... seriously?

It's up to +7 damage, +9 if you get greater WS, because of Mythic weapon spec. Weapon Training is also +3 damage minimum. When you factor in weapon crits, these relatively small damage increases start to add up, big time, whereas Sneak Dice are only ever linear.

At mythic 10, and spending 2 feats and mythic feat on top of that.

Versus 6d6 sneak dices on every hit, +5 from studied target, its obvious its more dmg unless niche scenarios, and without feat/mythic feats expenditures.

 

[Yosharian]

6D6 is only 21 damage and it's situational - you have to expose the target to Sneak Attacks, and they must not be immune to precision damage

Spending a mythic feat on it is basically not relevant

Anyway I never said Sneak dice are bad, I'm just saying base damage scales better

Which it clearly does