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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous RELEASE Thread - Inevitable Excess DLC on February 15th

Discussion in 'Owlcat Games' started by Dishonoredbr, Sep 2, 2021.

  1. Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Arcane

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    What the fuck are you blabbing about?
    There's no situational "best available" that is going to compensate efficiently enough for shit like
    - best hit chance
    - increased critical range
    - increased critical multiplier

    etc.
    Especially since you tend to find items more or less in the same ballpark of quality for entire stretches of the game and the only massive outliers are usually the fringe options (that are sooner or later matched by alternate ones, anyway).

    Not to mention all the Mythic Feats and special talents that pretty much have at least a Weapon focus as a pre-requirement.
     
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  2. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    Insert Title Here Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    It’s also really, really bad (especially when people then go naked and trying to chase stats their class wouldn’t otherwise need) and so people suck and start trashing the game and crying for nerfs to turn the game into the one the retarded maxminners tried to optimize for.

    It’s a nightmare because the game is in fact optimized for just playing your class and RPing and that working well.
     
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  3. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    Blabbing lol. Trying to help you understand why you were sucking so bad you were on here whining and crying about Drezen while everyone else was having a ball.

    You don’t understand where the max’s and min’s even are.
     
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  4. Mortmal Arcane

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    Play whatever you want wont work to finish the game however even on normal , not in wotr. First 3 chapters are ok , but end game is clearly built for people who did the monk dip, but know what they are doing. Else it will be F5 F8 all the time.
     
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  5. Matalarata Arcane Patron

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    Mine is Trad monk 1 and the benefits of getting those two pally levels would be outshadowed by the loss of sweet drugs from vivi. See? Variety! Spice of life! :P

    Jokes aside I get the point Tacgnol is trying to make. I'd never allow my current main at my pnp table simply because I'd reckon no player I know could ever devise a background story concise, sufficient and interesting enough to be integrated into the bigger chronicle (that, I remind everyone, should also justify everyone else's PCs) that'd explain such a mixture of classes. Since this is a fucking SP game and the RP is all in my head*, I easily ignore all that to have fun with a system that, as I said before I know pretty well. In order to have fun I need to try and break it, otherwise it's a yawn fest, I need to chase bigger and bigger numbers to make things interesting, but that's what my brain needs.


    edit*: and for all the Italians reading this or for anyone capable of reading Italian, know that, in my head, Bismuth, the Dino you get from the statuette, is actually called Capadimuro
     
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  6. panda Savant

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    Casual metamagic rod(i took feat though) gives you +2 per dice and forget about another 24, got brainfart there. There is robe that gives +2 dmg, but for each dice of elemental damage received during previous turn. For some reason i thought it is +2 per dice too and just for a fact of receiving dmg. Aaand I tested and it doesn't seems like that robe works at all :lol:, or at least it won't take friendly fire into account.
     
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  7. Mortmal Arcane

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    You are yelling at cloud again old man, only desiderius thinks its any close to tabletop...
     
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  8. Meredoth Arcane

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    I din't had to use a lot of min maxing in end game. TBH without two rods of greater quicken metamagic and rest scumming, I would't be able to beat certain encounters.
     
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  9. Shadenuat Arcane

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    I would be happy with just some normal Fighters in party. One Minsc maybe, Kivan, Khaleed. They can have non-epic stat spread with 15 strengths. All in plate mails with cute little flaming swords and stuff.
    Would be fun.

    Monks, gaylords, cannibals, dex rapiers can all suck it.

    On my good run I'd replace Seelah with Mercenary with same build as her, just to change her voice acting.
     
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  10. Mortmal Arcane

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    Me too, but if you have to start scumming, its not really a clear win.Thats why i said pure casters get shafted. I wasnt expecting end game to be so overtuned.
     
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  11. Tacgnol Shitlord Patron

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    Indeed. I don't really care what people play at the end of the day (it's an SP game after all, not a game I'm dming).
     
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  12. Hóngwèibīng Arcane Vatnik Wumao

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    In my current playthrough, with the exception of my casters, I've multiclassed all of my companions into either Hellknights (i.e. the paladin chick) or Armigers. :M
     
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  13. Parabalus Arcane

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    There is Improved Improved Improved Critical Improved in this game, ofc specializing is better.

    Everything can also be feared so Shatter is still good.
     
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  14. Shadenuat Arcane

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  15. Salvo Savant

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  16. Parabalus Arcane

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    There is Wenduag and the Ch4 dood, and another mythic specific in Ch4.
     
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  17. Meredoth Arcane

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    One companion class which I miss a lot in both owlcat games is a Druid companion.

    In kingmaker and in this game, we have two clerics but not a single druid.
     
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  18. Shadenuat Arcane

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    Wenduag is too minmaxed to be a cool companion.

    Also she's dumb.

    Yeah too much technocracy, not enough Create Goodberries.
     
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  19. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    Overkill. Man I think everyone is overwhelmed by the breadth of choice here and clinging to the known. You don’t need to kill a corpse deader. You’re better off having access to a wide variety of unique effects and abilities as they come up.
     
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  20. Salvo Savant

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  21. Riel Cipher

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    I planned my 1st run as a A Legend Mystic Theurge (Oracle/Sorcerer), just reached mythic rank 3 and realized I can't be a legend until mythic rank 8....

    :negative:

    I can be Angel, Azata, Trickster and Demon....
    Demon is discarded in this play through because of role playing issues.
    Angel I can cope with but would prefer no to due to the same
    Azata seams redundant since I already have a pet but would probably be good role playing wise
    Trickster seams to lack any kind of synergy with a Mystic Theurge

    :mixedemotions:

    Thoughts??
     
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  22. Parabalus Arcane

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    There is a multitude of enemies with over 1k HP, rarely will you overkill stuff.

    And the variety of effects aren't better than a x7 multiplier, or a 11-20 threat range. They are cooler though.
     
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  23. Matalarata Arcane Patron

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    That's why I immediately went Druid merc here! Harrim also makes for a decent Druid in KM, although I never tried, the stats are there.
     
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  24. Reinhardt Arcane

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    Deadfire is game about sabers. There was enough sabers to equip an army and pretty much 0 other equip at release. Many choice.
     
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  25. Hóngwèibīng Arcane Vatnik Wumao

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