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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous RELEASE Thread

Discussion in 'Owlcat Games' started by Dishonoredbr, Sep 2, 2021.

  1. Sarkile Magister Patron

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    Where is your portrait from? I love it.
     
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  2. fantadomat Arcane Edgy Wumao

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    That is a fucking long time. It is pretty stupid to get this option only by the end of the game. A lot of dumb shit in this game.

    That said i am in chapter 4 and it is pretty fun,shame that the level design is that annoying and pointless.
     
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  3. Non-Edgy Gamer Prophet Patron

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    Strap Yourselves In
    And cheese is one of the pillars of a good burger. I'd still like the meat cooked though.

    This is veering into a strawman already. It's an exaggeration to go from 10 mythic paths and 100 or whatever classes/kits to 1 mythic path and the handful of classes you made up in previous strawman.

    I can appreciate that you want to win the argument or defend the game or whatever, but to do that, you need to actually argue with what I'm saying and not something you made up.
    It would be less buggy.

    Now if you were to actually cover what I said in the part you quoted:
    And you weren't to strawman my argument:
    Then my answer would be yes.
    Trying to be everything to everyone is a great way to be excellent to no one.
    Do you think it'd be worth the game being even more buggy and having worse writing if they added a vampire lord mythic path?

    I recall seeing a Steam review by someone who tried playing a lich btw. Except due to a bug that the developer admitted to in the comments, the lich path became broken for him. Is it worth it to him that you can play 9 other paths if his path is broken because the devs didn't have the time to dedicate to QCing it?
    Cool, but it's still really bad. Case and point:
    Well, I think I understand what you're saying here, but you're still not understanding.

    These are all things you find difficult to believe because of the mechanics and your knowledge of the setting. (Didn't Mystra involve herself with a lot of mortals and even have kids while possessing one btw?)

    That's fine, but it has nothing to do with writing quality. For example, Gale doesn't tell you ANY of that about himself upon first meeting you. He actively tries his best to hide all of this from you. I haven't gotten into his background very much and it's unfinished due to being early access, but this is what a character in a game should be like. They should have layers you need to peel back to find out more about them. This is how you write an interesting character. You don't just say "hey, I'm a so and so and here's my gimmick".
    I haven't gotten to her yet. Frankly, it's hard to find the motivation to play a game I already don't like very much.
    But taking on a demon army at level 2 is ok. Riiiight.
    Again, I find it ironic that all the people who backed the beta are so willing to call the start of the game awful when they've had access to it for a long time now and were singing the game's praises for months.

    I appreciate that there is mid and late game content and all, but I'd prefer it if the early game wasn't so bad. I can't imagine it improves that much later, but I will keep you updated should I suddenly change my mind.
     
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  4. fantadomat Arcane Edgy Wumao

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    Its a mystery. If you want it i could post the pics here.
     
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  5. Non-Edgy Gamer Prophet Patron

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    Gonna go ahead and to add this to the list of things the game could have done without.
     
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  6. Shadenuat Arcane

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    eh? what r u asking? I am not yet past all the pages of new age shitposting and Meredoth smiting people with his lichdom powers.

    idk, what would Desiderius say? prebuff your stupid party, play how game was designed (RTwP) and rush through enemies in supersonic azata speed killing everything, stop sucking.

    There seems to be now unique dialogue for races and even gods you pick. But how much idk, more than PKM, but less than POE.
     
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  7. TheEntitledOne Arcane

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    Maybe I suck at building companions, but I'm struggling with most of them.

    The paladin is okaish tanky, but I rather use my 2H paladin. Lann is OP with little effort, but the rest...
    Ember I only use for spamming slumber, which surprisingly can put down mini-bossess, and the tiefling can pull his weight.

    But how do you use Camelia properly? or count decadence? Is it so difficult to have more mundane class hirelings?


    Playing this in core I'm having a harder time than in Kingmaker, not sure if it is overall harder or is it just that half of the companions are rather weak.

    Get him the Mythic Feat that deals a free attack on any enemy on a 10-foot radius after he makes a kill or critic. Lulz. Can't remember if I had half as much fun with an archer before.
     
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  8. Shadenuat Arcane

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    yeah she's some sort of writing anomaly. in-character, and no graphomania. almost like some outsource writer made her (not MCA). similar situation to Rhin from Numa.
     
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  9. fantadomat Arcane Edgy Wumao

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    :hmmm:

    Not sure if serious,she is the dps boss killa. Just give her evo magic specialty and pick all the offensive magic,add the elemental feats and then the mythic elemental feat for ignoring resistance and you have a killa. Which is pretty ironic since she is the pacifist saint.
     
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  10. Non-Edgy Gamer Prophet Patron

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    I actually suspect she was written by MCA, since she's basically Aerie, but crazy.
     
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  11. sorinmask Just like Yves, I chase tales. Patron

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    Be careful and save often. Untested waters yawn yonder. Bugs ahoy!
     
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  12. Atlet Savant

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    Are you people enjoying so far? xD

    I dont like to read threads about games I'm currently playing, but I'm curious about your impressions so far.
     
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  13. Non-Edgy Gamer Prophet Patron

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    No. It's full of bugs and bad writing. Not to mention the LGBT stuff.

    Those who backed it seem to love it though.
     
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  14. Shadenuat Arcane

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    MCA writing fantasy is very wordy and uses third-person actions in his roleplaying a lot, sorta dragging you in of companions story in a whirlpool of expressions. He's too much of a smartass DM to write Ember-likes.
     
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  15. Trash Player Scholar

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    Angels and Demons are unlocked by default. The other early paths need to be unlocked by looking out.
     
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  16. Takamori Learned

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    I was so happy, oh boy no more city administration just silly crusades and here fucking city administration up your asshole again
     
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  17. sorinmask Just like Yves, I chase tales. Patron

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    I have been bestowed the Judge Dredd gaze. I can spot the guilty. Punishment for their crimes is only a matter of time.
     
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  18. Shadenuat Arcane

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    Paladin is both tank/damager, early game it's easier to run her with 2 hander, until you find better equipment. due to paladin smite and later mass smite obviously op. she can also multiclass into many things, if you don't like paladinos.
    Lann is op, and can be op cleric (druid) multiclass with bow, ac from wis, all that, + pet
    Wenduag is make-your-own op fighta char.
    Ember is the OPest, if you know what "a re-roll" means. Pick abilities that suck enemies for -to everything, cackle, and abilities that force re-rolls (or give you re-rolls). Witch is basically a -1 diffiiculty level if you have someone to use their -saving throws.
    Camelia is support buffer and they say a tank if you pick tank shaman stuff. oh right, also debufs. I usually don't play her but I once just switched her into elven curve blade damager with sneaks. I also seen some ppl switch her into ranger and I ran her as hunter with dogi once.
    Tiefling is flat minmaxed thief/mage, an absolute no-brain.
    Lestat made by russian 40+ yo fangirls who watched too much vampire interview on old russian television is an obvious blaster (sorcerer casting + cleric dmg+cc anti chaos spells), for some reason owlcats shoved him into healbot build tho. not sure what his extra powers now are, since he was bugged in beta, but he can spam lots of spells, use it.
    Neni struggles a lot like all mages early, but basically she is for a party that can buff casters and cc and kill with Illusions. early game use her to multiply all scrolls and teach them to Neeshka-man. since I play casters I prefer to multi her into something tho to replace Neeshka-man.
    Sosiel is just op, it's like a muscle blacklord tristian.
    Regill is straight no nonsense dual, since many attaxx, you need to add to every attaxx extra damage (crusaders edge, hurr). he uses Crushing weapon because, right after you get him, Owlcats throw crushing-vulnerable swarms on u wink wunk hint hint
    Dorf is banal axe killer
    Primadonna is just flat OP ranged obliterator.
    mythic/secret companionz not gonna go into them, haven't met all of dem.

    problems I see with chars is weird ember build (although might work later with items), strange spells for Cam, and since you already have heal supports in Cam, Ember, and later Sos, Lestat feats are pointless.
    At the same time there is a lack of alchemist equivalents with elemental dmg.
    Aside from that I don't know how losing with these minmaxed shits (who of course also get various DM-approved companion itemz) is even possible. You want a harder game, roll mercenaries. I always multiclass companions into some dumb shit to get a more interesting game cause of braindead effectiviness of chars like Lann "multi log thrower" etc.
     
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  19. Psquit Arcane

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    Minor bugs, with the exception of a major one but I'm enjoying the game at the moment. I hate the cock teasing with the Lich class, not even Arthas was hustled this much... I just want to be a skeleton.
     
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  20. dacencora Scholar

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    It does have bugs and yes the writing is very hit and miss (the pathfinder society guy’s dialogue was standout for being normal, instead of bad lol) but I am enjoying it a lot.

    Wenduag and Ember are the most interesting characters I’ve met so far.
     
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  21. dacencora Scholar

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    For people unable to believe it, a GTX 1080 at 1440p, paired with an AMD 3700x struggles at Medium settings. Any time that there are huge special FX on screen, it becomes sluggish, even more so if there are a ton of enemies. So the fight with all the cultists at the Wardstone after you get out of the Maze is pretty abysmal to go through (not to mention it bugged the first time and I didn’t see the dialogue of the cutscene lol)
     
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  22. Trash Player Scholar

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    She is written by Thainen, you know, the one who also desired to put in a transwomen dwarf back in KM. Source: Pre-launch Ask Me Anything on Owlcat reddit
    I guess people can find some common ground for once in this culture war debacle.
     
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  23. Meredoth Arcane

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    How many bugs did you encountered? I managed to finish the game and only encountered 3 major bugs. The exit icon not displaying in ch 2, the game crashing in Arueshalaes dream and my portrait disappearing in end game.

    How many bugs did you encountered? Because even youtubers aren't considering this game buggy. This youtuber considered the beta buggy and not ready for release and now, changed his mind.


    Way better. I would pau US$100,00 for a DLC which includes it if is great as lich MP. Instead of undead, you could use shadows with a unique mechanic of being weak during daylight. That would be amazing. Instead of focused in necromancy, focused in conjuration and illusion, some swarm of bats abilities, dominate people in dialogs, that would be so awesome.

    I din't backed the game. I only played the beta thanks to a friend of mine.

    And people who was praising the game, anyone mentioned writing? No, people mentioned all cool amazing stuff which you can do. Kingmaker was already amazing in character building. This games is even better.

    I loved it so much. Honestly, I think that I will pick my ch 2 save ,respec and try to complete the game on hard now. Azata water elementalist. The problem is that even bellow hard, the end game was insane with spells that dishes hundreds of points of damage while heal my undeads(Negative eruption).
     
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  24. Shadenuat Arcane

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    well most of good companions in bio were made by Gaider, for example :shitposting:
     
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  25. Takamori Learned

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    Did the storyteller disappear for you all in your gameplay? I don't see that fucker since I left the first city.
     
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