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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous RELEASE Thread

Discussion in 'Owlcat Games' started by Dishonoredbr, Sep 2, 2021.

  1. mediocrepoet First disciple of Mediocrites Patron

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    o no i can't suspend my disbelief about the personalities of characters in my fantasy kaiju battle simulator
    how will i pretend they are my friends? :(
     
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  2. purupuru Learned

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    I can never shake off the feeling that Ember is actually fucked-up deep inside, no one in her place should be that "positive." She's also an atheist with cult leader charisma, very dangerous.
     
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  3. Hóngwèibīng Arcane Vatnik Wumao

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    Well, technically she's neither an atheist nor does she have high charisma by herself.
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    She's basically a follower of Andoletta and the latter interacts with Ember directly through that crow that's following her around. So in a way, you can think of Ember as a sort of cleric of Andoletta lorewise. That's also why she has such a gift of persuasion. Not because she herself is charismatic (her interactions with the Commander's companions showcase that), but because of divine favor. It's not Ember herself shaping her followers through her gift of persuasion, but rather Andoletta fucking up with the minds of those that she has an interest in as for Ember to be able to convert them as it were (de facto, if not de jure, since conversion doesn't require a conscious faith in Andoletta).
     
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  4. LannTheStupid Товарищ Patron

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    Why did you have to sell me Ember?! I always wanted to play with small Lenin in my (Bolshevik) party!
     
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  5. Hóngwèibīng Arcane Vatnik Wumao

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  6. Meredoth Arcane

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    Or Arueshalae, she will never forget everything who got inside her...

    Only powerful enchantment magic should be able to turn then into housewives. h3uhu3h3u just kidding.
     
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  7. LannTheStupid Товарищ Patron

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    Hóngwèibīng "Ленин и сейчас жалеет всех живых".
     
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  8. Thac0 Time Mage Patron

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    Ember is good not because her dialogue is good, she is good because the other companions have a lot of unique responses to her mildly retarded lectures which can be of really high quality.
     
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  9. Sunri Savant

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    True i have no idea why Ember have so many fanboys both here and on reddit but i can see now why codex implemented rule against cp :smug:
     
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  10. Hóngwèibīng Arcane Vatnik Wumao

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    Agreed. That said, it's hard to justify why your PC would keep her around unless he subscribes to her nonsense.

    I mean, you can say that it's just because she's useful (something which you are allowed to explicitly acknowledge in dialogue), but that's far from a satisfying reason.
     
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  11. PrK Learned Patron

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    Another easily exploitable bug, do they even test this shit?

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  12. LannTheStupid Товарищ Patron

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    Nenio's question is pretty valid, by the way. She does not know all ins and outs of how Golarion works; she does not know why demons created in this particular way; so she observes, makes connections, and asks questions.

    That's how human breeders were working for 5,000-10,000 years before the invention of GMO.
     
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  13. Hóngwèibīng Arcane Vatnik Wumao

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    And her habit of persistent questioning is perfectly explained in character if you do her companion quest.
     
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  14. Thac0 Time Mage Patron

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    I don't immerse that much, my party is an alignment clusterfuck as I only choose by gameplay and writing quality.
    There is something quite interesting however if you want a roleplay reason to keep her around, Wenduag is scared shitless of her because she senses something is off. You could keep her around as any lawfull character in a "I want your Jesus shenanigans where I can see and control them, and not have a second crusade start in my back" fashion.

    Also another thing on why her writing is good, her character lets the other ones talk about stuff that is not exactly their gimmick. Nenio is so shit because she always keeps her SCIENCE! gimmick up. It makes her onedimensional. If the other characters are talking about something not directly readable from the first paragraph of their backstory it is probably because Ember said something stupid.

    It is like how in real Pen&Paper the best roleplayers are the ones who stop the party from just being a bunch of charades following a simple script to acting like they are a real group.
     
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  15. LannTheStupid Товарищ Patron

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    This is even better; but personally, I would expect the same curiosity from any person with INT 18 (which in Gygax times meant IQ 180).
     
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  16. Rafidur Learned

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    Post ritual, and with the artifact cloak, a charisma based lich is fucking stacked: 500ish natural hp. 70ish temporary hp (both easily replenishable through negative burst), a bunch of defenses from the unique spells (AC, saves, DR, etc), undead immunities (when they work), an optional 10 dr from the strong bones or whatever it's called lich power, a bunch of free dex...

    Pre-ritual, however, you're going to have garbage hp and most of these defenses are less relevant if you die to a babau rolling initiative then sneak farting in your general direction. Undead immunities also cost you a level 7 spell slot before you become one for good.
     
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  17. Ehrenmann Guest

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    BUGS RUINED MY ARUESHALAE ROMANCE :argh:
     
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  18. smaug Self-Ejected Patron

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    I choose lich for undead immunities and it’s taking forever to become a lich (I.e undead). Not having my undead immunities is gimping me hard atm
     
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  19. Voids Augur

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    What is a RP friendly build for a lawful good, eventual gold dragon mythic path? Monk?
     
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  20. Ezeekiel Liturgist

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    Have they fixed the performance issues yet?
     
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  21. Rafidur Learned

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    There's a level 7 spell that gives you DR 5/blunt, negative energy heals, and undead immunities for 10 min/level. Your +stats aura does not apply to temporary undead, though, unless they fixed it. You also still use con for hp. Positive side is you can legendary proportions your fighter THEN turn him undead, whereas you can't propo a natural undead.
     
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    Don’t have level 7 spells yet ;(
     
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  23. Thonius Arcane

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    Okay so, I killed dragon okay without taking any damage right, and then I get raped by some pumpkins(mandragons or something) in the basement. Who the fuck is responsible for encounters really?WHOMST?
     
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    Tempted to quit at Ivory. So tired of fighting the same goddamn enemies in every corridor and room.

    Been here for 2 1/2 fucking hours and it’s sooo long, if it’s like this for the rest of the game I’m out.
     
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  25. LannTheStupid Товарищ Patron

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    Come to think of it: what might be a Bolshevik crusader party?

    There is a young pioneer hero who lost everything during the class war - Ember; there is an NKVD investigator who likes to... deal with counter-revolutionaries - Camellia; there is a bourgeois specialist, a temporary companion of the Revolution who will be executed later - Daeran; a thief, who is a potential class ally of the proletariat - Woljif; a landless peasant who was born as a village poor, so a natural ally of the working class - Wenduag...

    The main hero should be a local party leader; don't know which class might it be. Not a full caster. May be a Scald, as his speeches about the Soviet authority should inspire the masses to fight.

    And the rest do not seem to fit the theme. Well, Nenio may be a representative of intelligentsia which is the social layer between the working class and peasants. And the Mythic path should be of Lich, because Lenin even now is more alive than all the living people.

    Comments and ideas are welcome.
     
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