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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous RELEASE Thread

Discussion in 'Owlcat Games' started by Dishonoredbr, Sep 2, 2021.

  1. volklore Arcane

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    When trying to solo the necromancer in the market square, it seems the patch screwed up melee touch attacks pretty bad. In Rtwp, the first cast of vampiric touch always let out something like 5 touch attacks in a single round (in turn based it works normally). That was kind of a difficult solo fight for the sword saint and it was a bit too rng for my liking. The AI is really wonky. That necromancer would not cast anything else than vampiric touch until he landed one and then he started cycling through his other spells which usually meant death for me. Had to reload a few times until I got the kill before he cycled through enough spells that he started using his high DC one shot boneshaker - not super satisfying. There was probably a better solution than just buffing and going, but scrolls in combat are a bit limited in choice for the saint (my UMD is low) and that fight kinda locks you into a cutscene before it starts.

    Overall I cleared the entire market except for the shadow demon (Do not think I can do it in a mano a mano fight even when openning with a gliterdust scroll, he has too much AC and too many attacks and he targets touch AC), dumped an horrid whilting scroll on the tower of estrod encounter which killed everything and left the boss with 2hp. Most of it was okay I would say, not too save scummy, although you cannot do much against double 20 glaive crits. Stoneskin scrolls and resist fire scrolls were MvP for tough fights. next up is woljiff and then tavern defense.
     
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  2. Atlet Savant

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    Yeah, this is clearly the best rpg ever
     
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  3. Meredoth Arcane

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    No, this is a great game, but even kingmaker is better.
     
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  4. Atlet Savant

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    I prefer WotR over kingmaker by a mile
     
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  5. Nerevar N'wah Patron Repressed Homosexual

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    Make the Codex Great Again! Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    Yeah KM had better henchmen and story but WOtR has mythic paths and enduring buffs.

    Both games have a high amount of pozz but I think WOtR has more pozz with forced tranny advisors at least in KM you can kill the fuck henchmen straight away.
     
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  6. perfectslumbers Scholar

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    I like WOTR better because I spend less time slowly traveling on the map to a wilderness location, killing 1 troll, and then leaving.
     
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  7. ArchAngel Arcane Sad Loser

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    So did the patch finally fix the TB charge?! I see they applied fix attempt #X , maybe this one will finally work..
     
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  8. LannTheStupid Товарищ Patron

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    Drop the difficulty and play RTwP.
     
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  9. Meredoth Arcane

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    Why Kingmaker is better than this game :
    • Less power creep
    • Less slog, only the last 1/8 of kingmaker is a slog, compared to the last 1/3 of wrath
    • Way more content
    • They don't threat good as egalitarianism. Being in good in kingmaker is being generous, caring from others, Aristocracy is well depicted. Anything anti egalitarian in wrath is evil.
    • More unique story, about taming a savage land, dealing with ancient curses and so on, instead of the generic "kill demons and save the world"
    • Much longer game
    • "epic" enemies are threatening. Spawn of Rovagug for eg, is a memorable enemy. In Wrath, even Archdevils are cakewalks.
    • Numbers are smaller
    • Feyfolk is interesting and all lore of eldest, first world, I loved it.
    • Ice Prison Strength check DC is not bugged.
    • EDIT : Game journalists got butthurt over kingmaker but not over wrath.
    This game still amazing, but Kingmaker is better.
     
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  10. Sunri Savant

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    why cuckmaker is shit :

    last chapter gave me brain trauma.
     
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  11. perfectslumbers Scholar

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    Last chapter of Kingmaker was dope. A house with a totally unique layout that was a puzzle in and of itself. Challening battles vs mandragora swarms. Every companion who you didn't completely solve the emotional issues of dying.
     
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  12. Daidre Arcane

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    Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    Couple of weird statements:
    Very questionable both in Story, if we account for all 6 major Mythic paths and closely tied for the pure adventuring content, like big maps/dungeons. It is distributed differently, with Kingmaker opening most drastically in Chapter 2, where you additionally get access to the parts of adventure map belonging to the chapters 3 and 5, but Wrath's biggest chapter is 3, where we get Wintersun, Blackwater, Laboratory, Ivory Labyrinth and Midnight Fane all in one chapter. And Alushinyrra is what Pitax should have been - a real city.
    Owlcat also learned a lot after Kingmaker - Wrath's maps are usually bigger and more complicated, with some pseudo 3D.
    Spawn of Rovagug is from Kingmaker's third DLC. It was released half year after the main game and right now is like the worst example imaginable.
     
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  13. ArchAngel Arcane Sad Loser

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    RTwP is unplayable, I might as well play a autoclicker game.

    I always wanted a TB Baldur's Gate and this is closest to it.
     
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  14. Haplo Prophet Patron

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    Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
    Well, charge seems massively improved already since the previous patch. It now seems to work decently well.
    Note I haven't tried using reach weapons lately... or riding a huge mount.

    But riding a large smilo works fine. Even better in fact, since they now allow you to full attack after mount movement (in pnp you'd need a high level, 14 BAB feat for that).
     
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  15. Zboj Lamignat Arcane

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    Mounted feats do something now? Might finally start a proper cavalier run, which I planned to do originally when game got released.
     
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  16. ga♥ Augur

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    Kingmaker last chapter was a slog at release, not now, it's a good dungeon.

    Much more enjoyable than enigma.
     
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  17. ArchAngel Arcane Sad Loser

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    Enigma is side content, you can ignore it.
     
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  18. Lord of Riva Prophet Patron

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    Strap Yourselves In Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    The Power creep is absolutely great. It's fun, gameplay wise and narrative wise.

    Just to make that clear, that should not always be the case but for a single game it's great.
     
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  19. purupuru Learned

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    For me, Wrath has better replay value due to mythic paths while Kingmaker offers a more satisfactory adventure overall. I still think I prefer Kingmaker to Wrath but replay value is such an important aspect for build porn games like these that I'd be very hesitant to declare Kingmaker as the objectively better game.
     
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  20. Sunri Savant

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    Yes I love clearing the same pack of mob like its fucking Diablo I lol
     
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  21. Fowyr Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    They are not challenging per se, just annoying. When you first encounter them in chapter 4 or 5, it's just praying that our dear resilient girl Jaethal would be their first target and hitting swarms with every thing that you have. Elemental Body is probably helpful too, but I cannot remember it now.
     
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  22. LannTheStupid Товарищ Patron

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    Offtopic: while is Haplo profile on Reddit put under "18+" warning? Isn't it some sign of reddit quarantine?

    If there is more apropriate place for such questions please direct me there.
     
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  23. Fedora Master Arcane Patron Edgy

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    House at the Edge of Time is the worst map ever put in a cRPG. Kill yourself.
     
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  24. volklore Arcane

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    I liked HATEOT
     
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  25. purupuru Learned

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    Are we seriously criticizing HATEOT in the thread of a game which has a literal corridor as its last chapter?
     
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