Eternity Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

Paladins in PoE aren't lawful good. They are military orders with a creed. A rogue/paladin is essentially a rogue knight.

 

Seems like Gullet is the best combination of quests, characters, secret locations and dungeon crawl tied together in a sweet knot the game has. Take it for whatever you will.

This game has Athkatla (sort of, I still feel like Athkatla was way bigger - probably because it simply had more quests with actual content instead of shitty bounties, multiple quests for different classes, multiple dungeons, multiple high level content, companions... just Jaheira alone had like 2 separate quest lines there), but does not have Underdark.

The other locations I'm just not as impressed with, the faction content - seems like it barely exists, when compared to F:NV for example.

How did I almost clock 70 hours (and still haven't finished some boring stuff and have a few islands to explore) I don't even... because the important and cool stuff I remember seemed like all happened in the first 30% of the game.

 

I don't disagree mate,just saying that it is better than PoE 2. It have a lot less bugs and a lot more content and meaningful itemisation. Also i never had any problem with you being a kebab,outside of few jabs and a little bit of banter. As long as you leave in your country,more power to you.

 

According dictionary (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/paladin) it's possible, because paladin is a champion of cause (shitty stereotype about heavy armor was invented later). Especially rogue/paladin have right to exist, if we consider that in PoE unverse exist Gold pact knights order. They basically mercs with principles, they can't betray anyone who hired them.

 

I dunno never watced him before.

 

Yes.

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Didn't you have a priest ? Just cast dismissal and only the vampire sage and vampire priest remain. No need to lower the difficulty, really.

 

I'll look the game up but you're likely trolling.

I have no idea avout your claims, either Deadfire Classic is that easy or you made a OP Watcher. I didn't really wipe much on it in PotD but I still had to play game more than DA:O on Nightmare Plus.

 

Well, this thread deteriorated quickly.

The fact almost nobody has mentioned it leads me to believe it's almost meaningless because the way it is designed would've caused a massive uproar (an uproar similar to armor in D:OS2) had it been felt.

 

A lot of loading and pointless running around. I agree with the rest of your post. Gulag is the best part of the game .

 

Enemies have a variety of AR in an encounter so you will sometimes pick and chose priority or swap weapons to bigger PEN. Constructs are the biggest example.

That missing because of range is retarded because it uses up class resources if the AI does it, it should either refund or still hit.

 

Well, concidering my Serafen with soulbound lightning halberd annihilates whole encounters, and he has shitty stats and just basic single class barbarian build, this one is at least partially true.

IMO best party in this game would be something like 3-4 physicals and 1-2 casters. The fucktonn of warrior-like oriented weapons and equipment which is SO prevalent it feels you should be playing 6 dual wielders says that too.

The amount of "yellows" is just maddening and you try to pick through 3-4-5-10 enchantments on them all to at least make some sense of what are you supposed to build out of all this pile of junk, and then superb and even legendary white items with no stories or anything just fall from everywhere so you may not even bother with enchanting at all since +acc and +pen is best enchant.

Well, wait, I did find at least one spellcasting combo - the Whale Wand with 10% to charm on spell + any long working ray spell, heh.

And I gave Xoti the glowing magma axe.

 

what IS a rogue knight? a knight gone rogue? does he still wear heavy armor? is his armor black? does he still use a shield? does he fight with a sword or a dagger? can he pick locks? does he wear leather armor under his plate? does he use slang or does he talk properly?

and who the fuck are you? you pretend to answer a complex question with some bullshit one liner. i can imagine rogue/paladin somehow fits poe2's world, but i'm criticizing poe2's world for it. so just telling me poe2's world allows such abominations doesn't explain shit, it just makes you look retarded.

 

No, DA:O is completely bugged and doesn't have any meaningful itemisation. In fact some of its unique bonuses for items do not work at all, here let me show you something.

https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonage/mods/1601/

This is just a single mod. You have to have several of these JUST to fix the game's bugs regarding it's abilities.

 

Who said anything about being conered? You are confused. If one choose to defend an awful game like PoE2, we can dismiss it as even worse than DA:O. It is not that DA:O need to be a classic so that the argument can work. On the contrary, it is precisely because it is a retarded game with romances and RTwP that the unfavourable comparison works. DA:O is embarrassing, but it is still better than PoE2. The only thing that prevents one from seeing this is the romantic notion that Obsidian is more serious than Bioware. They are not. They are selling a BG2 clone and the whole studio is trying to become a Bioware clone in the process.

 

I did have the priest and the spell,but it didn't affect the vampires. I don't know why but they were very bulky in my encounter and when you add the charm it is a hard fight. Maybe i went there on lower level than you,don't know but this was the hardest and most fun battle in the whole game. I had a few more cool battles early on,but all of them were with 3red skulls. Also my priest was dying first because of charmed rogue and the ambush you get from the skeletons and ghouls coming from the water.

 

Blackguards in DnD3.5 had sneak attack and spelllike abilities, do you also dislike 3.5?
There are better examples than blackguards from the prestige classes, you can also make a straight up rogue/paladin.

 

so how does a principled rogue work?

 

About DA:O vs PoE 2 talk: I liked DA:O, but people who compare DA:O and PoE are 100% trolls, because it's like bacteria on Earth vs virus on different planet, they just different (maybe bad analogy, but in opinion comparison is pointless). Especially it's foolish to shit on game just because something in DA:O was different. Not to mention that high level spells in DA:O (if I remember correct) are mostly basic aoe elemental spells.

 

Heh-heh...

I considered for a long time whether to translate my PoE Bleak Walker as a Bleak Walker/Assassin in Deadfire, for purely roleplaying reasons.

My concept is of a thug who ascends to great fortune thanks to the accident that made him a Watcher, then loses everything when Caed Nua is destroyed. Once the gold plating is scratched off, he eagerly returns to his old ways, heading a pirate crew in the Deadfire where he makes a name for himself once again...

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A money hungry, ruthless sociopath is a very easy character to "role-play" - allows you to both roleplay and min-max without feeling bad that you are acting out of character.

 

I see that you haven't played PoE2 enough. I managed to finish the game without changing the armour on three of my companions...on hard. One of them didn't even had rings and other accessory. Most of them didn't had capes and hats. The game was that easy that there was no need to go inventory exploration for better gear. In DAO you at least had to change gear from time to time.

 

The fampyr gaze is pretty brutal, it's instant cast with no travel time and they aim at the lowest will - my PC would be stealthed at encounter start as party engages and they he would reliably get instantly dominated the second he went into combat.

I had more trouble with that one bone littered cave on the island with Sanguine Altar than in ghost town though, prolly coz I was lower level.

 

I liked DA: Origins but not for the combat. I would call it "tolerable."

Any port in a storm.

 

even if d&d made anything similar it just begs the question even more: what the fuck is it? what is his philosophy? never mind his skills.

 

Here is a fact, you retard. AD&D is not only fiction that exists nor is it some sort of canon on archetypes.

Here is a quote for you:

I.E, if it's hard for you to deduct; Paladin means a member of a military or courtly order. A rogue Paladin would be one that has gone rogue. Specifically in PoE Paladins are military orders with a creed, not necessarily religious, pious or "good".