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Pillars of Eternity Thread [Pre-Expansion]

Discussion in 'Obsidian Entertainment' started by undecaf, Mar 26, 2015.

  1. leino Arbiter

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    Another bad review dragged the metacritic down to 90, hope it won't slide further. Even though reviews are kind of irrelevant, I would have liked to see the PoE do really well as a matter of symbolism. Maybe I'm more shocked than I should be because I haven't read game reviews in a while, but it's so unfair:

    what the fug am I reading :( Who allowed this person to review vidya?

    It's not that you wouldn't be justified in giving Eternity 8/10 on certain grounds, but God, these are not it.
     
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  2. AN4RCHID Arcane

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    JESawyer wept.
     
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  3. Nael Arcane

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    I totally disagree with the sentiment of it being "too difficult" but "lack of innovation" is something I can agree with. It is fairly bland in some aspects (as Blaine's itemization thread points out) and the story/setting is ho-hum. Still will replay 7 times though.

    While I'm here I have a question maybe someone can help me out with:

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    I just got to the part where I'm in the Sanitarium and I talked to the guy at the end and he is "the soul of the one who Awakened me." Are they talking about the robe/mask guy I kept dreaming about? What the fuck are they talking about? Could they be any more vague with this "Awakening" past lives bullshit?
     
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  4. Xorazm Arbiter

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    What would you guys say are the most innovative parts of PoE that reviews are overlooking?
     
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  5. Reapa Doom Preacher

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    the put your points here to win stat for all classes. it makes for much less metagaming and much more jump right into action.
    :discohitler::bravo:
    also arbalests. can't remember any game in which a basic/common item would be much better than most if not all other items regardless of enchantments.:excellent:
     
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  6. Ninjerk Arcane

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    I didn't know wtf that was talking about either until
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    Somewhere in the resolution to Act 2 they explicitly state that it's Thaos inhabiting yet another body to frame animancers for problems in Defiance Bay
     
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  7. Shadenuat Arcane

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    It's "that" part of the game, when suddenly PST gets in. Be prepared for sudden decisions you don't know what to make of, characters appearing in visions you know nothing about and other stuff.
     
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  8. Think big! Smoking Dicks

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    Haven't played for long. Went straight to Caed Nua from Gilded Vale, and now getting raped. Are you supposed to not be able to just focus on the main quest?
     
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  9. Osvir Learned

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    In comparison to the Infinity Engine games or, in comparison to all the other RPGs out there? Imo, Pillars of Eternity innovates on a lot of things if we compare with Infinity Engine. Chanters and Ciphers seem to be brought up in these discussions because they innovate more broadly, in a new way we haven't seen much or at all in comparison to all the other RPGs.

    Chanters & Ciphers are innovative if we compare with all RPGs. Fighters, Rogues, Monks, Paladin etc, are only innovative if we have Baldur's Gate/Icewind Dale/D&D to compare with. Wizard, Druid and Priests being the least innovative. Combat in itself is innovative, even if it follows the formula well.

    That's why I hope Obsidian takes more freedom and innovates more with the classes, progression, plot, in upcoming Pillars of Eternity games. Because, obviously, people like what Obsidian did with the Psion-archetype and the Bard-archetype.

    Spiritshifting Druid Kit (Can't cast spells, but is really good at being transformed or something). Specific Diety Spells for Priests, and more differenting perks of Paladin Orders. Wizards having interesting out of combat spells, perhaps even dialogue spells (illusion magic, perhaps). Add to that more expansive lore.
     
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  10. Haba Harbinger of Decline Patron

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    Codex 2012 MCA Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2
    I'm sure someone will tell you how they completed the game solo with level 1 fighter while on PoD difficulty... but in general RPGs tend to have this thing called levelling up and upgrading equipment that you're supposed to do before being able to progress...

    Get a party of six, then you won't be raped any more.
     
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  11. One-and-a-half-Ivan Cipher

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    After reading Codex it's quite fascinating when I see my friends whining about PoE being too difficult (on normal!) to enjoy.
    On the other hand some of these guys enjoyed DAI, so to hell with them.
     
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  12. AN4RCHID Arcane

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    Take your pick: the stash, engagement, the first ever non-degenerate XP system, or Unified Field Theory of RPG stats :troll:
     
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  13. One-and-a-half-Ivan Cipher

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    I'd say it's the reputation system. Really cool. Different NPC reactions and even quest resolutions because of them.
     
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  14. Ninjerk Arcane

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    :negative::negative::negative::negative:
     
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  15. Xeon Augur

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    Does anyone know what is the best armor for defense against Slashing and Corrode? Where can I find it or buy it, also if there is any other items that offer protection against those 2.

    Also how many bonuses can I stack? Like rest bonus and Boon bonus and similar if there are any.

    Edit: Nevermind, Leather Armor protects against Slashing and Corrode.

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    The merchant at Lv12 sells exceptional, I guess they added the merchant for a good reason, hope this works.

    Edit2: Yea, fuck this shit. Dragon regens its health or something.
     
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  16. ZagorTeNej Arcane

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    You can get access to bounties very early as well and it had more challenging stuff there. Besides, it's an optional quest, in a semi-open world game you should design those to make sense in the setting/game-universe (to make the world feel more organic, it doesn't revolve around player) and in that regard that fight should have been tougher and yielded better rewards.

    Overall this is my biggest gripe with PoE so far, it's an endless stream of semi-trash fights, almost nothing feels like a special encounter and everything is roughly the same difficulty. The pacing is so monotonous you could fall asleep.
     
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  17. Reapa Doom Preacher

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    this guy has a dire need of dumbfuck label. chanters are bards. chiphers are psions. i fail to see the innovation cause of lack of innovation.
     
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  18. Spark Mandriller Augur

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    You mean the Endless Paths boss?
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    She doesn't regen, it's just the other enemies with her casting healing spells. The fight's ridiculously hard even when she's the only one left, though. I only beat her by spamming stun/knockdown/paralyse spells and getting extremely lucky rolls so they didn't miss.
     
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  19. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    WTF are those stats.

    Thank God the stats don't mean shit because level trumps everything anyway, or I'd be seriously pissed.
     
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  20. Ellef Deplorable

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    "What stats are good for a paladin?" "Fucked If i know, just put 13s and shit everywhere"

    Still one of the better built companions statwise, sadly.
     
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  21. norolim Cipher

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    So bros, how did your solo PC fare against those 3 wolves in Valewood on Hard? My offensive cipher got his ass handed to him a few times until I found a way to deal with them. On the other hand the bandits in the same area were not a problem (I attempted them 4 times and won all 4 with much less trouble than I expected). I'm guessing a defensive fighter would have little trouble with the wolves. I tried a fighter character, but it was an offensive one and although it was still a difficult fight, I killed the wolves on my first attempt.
     
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  22. Abu Antar Tweet, tweet Patron

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    Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    How spoilerish has this thread become? I want to read up on everything but don't want to spoil myself.
     
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  23. Bleed the Man Arcane Patron

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    Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
    Don't think anyone has spoiled anything outside the spoiler tags, although some things about the begginning act might have slip through, don't know. Still, you're safe from any story heavy spoiler.
     
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  24. LeJosh Savant

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    It's ok really, just for the love of all that's holy don't click on any spoiler button.
     
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  25. felipepepe Prestigious Gentleman Codex's Heretic Patron

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    Just wait until you get Grieving Mother, the Cipher with 11 Might...
     
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