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Gothic play Gothic 1 first or go straight to 2?

Discussion in 'Piranha Bytes' started by cretin, Aug 26, 2020.

  1. Robber Baron Learned

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    G1 has superior atmosphere and overall pacing
     
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  2. octavius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Is there any reason whatsoever not to play both?
     
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  3. ghostdog Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    I played G1 after finishing G2NOTR, and I had a blast. It's not as big as G2, but indeed that helps with the pace.

    After a bit of remapping, I brought the controls to a comfortable setting.

    Nowadays, there have been patches and tools that improve the game engine overall and also the controls.

    Gothic One Click Action
    https://forum.worldofplayers.de/for...ick-Action?p=25357067&viewfull=1#post25357067

    Gothic ½ — SystemPack
    https://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/threads/1340357-Release-Gothic-½-—-SystemPack-(ENG-DEU)
     
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  4. JDR13 Arcane

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    The controls quickly become second nature. Make sure to install the system pack if you haven't already and a texture pack.
     
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  5. Ludwig von Eisenthal Augur

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    I'd suggest to play G1 first. It's a great game and the control issues won't bother you for long. The whole atmosphere of the prisoner colony is very unique and while the main story itself is rather standard, the world design is perfect. Additionally it's the only game of PB where it's actually realistic and logically explained why there are so few women and no children at all.
     
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  6. J_C One Bit Studio Patron Developer Sad Loser

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    Play G1, then G2. Both are great!
     
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  7. moleman Savant Patron

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    Play G1 first. You will have a significantly better experience with G2 if you have played G1, for various reasons.

    And G1 is a great game in its own right.
     
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  8. Eisen Learned

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    skip and play ArcaniA
     
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  9. Zerth Arbiter

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    In the first Gothic, you get to know the whole gang of bros: Diego, Milten, Lee,Lares,Gorn,Lester,etc.. And your mentor Xardas.
     
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  10. Doktor Best Arcane

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    Play Gothic 1 first. Both games are among the best games of all time.
     
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  11. curry Arcane

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    Play G2 without the expansion if you've never played it before
     
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  12. Mastermind Cognito Elite Material Patron Bethestard

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    Go straight to Arcania, the only Gothic worth playing.
     
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  13. Rabbity_Thing Arcane Wumao

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    For the love of everything that's holy: DO NOT TOUCH THE RETURNING.

    Also, I will give mention to History of Khornis and Chronicles of Myrtana, two upcoming mods for G2 that don't seem to be getting nearly enough as much attention as they deserve here on 'dex. Definetely worth a look once you played through G1 and G2 and decided you want more.
     
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  14. retinoid Learned

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    Definitely play 1. G2 isn't a replacement for it despite them both playing virtually the same, in fact G1 has some aspects which are still unmatched by other PB games to this very day, such as atmosphere, balancing, and speed of progression. They are similar but distinct experiences.
     
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  15. Eastwood Educated

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    Why is that? Does it make the game harder?
     
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  16. krilcebre Learned

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    Hell no, vanilla G2 was pretty easy, NotR made it a lot harder, and i mean A LOT.

    Anyway, start with G1, no reason not to, G2 NotR won't go anywhere. Plus G1 isn't really a big game, so you will be able to complete it in 25h+, and then you can jump into NotR, which is much bigger, and will probably require 80h+ to complete. Skip the vanilla G2, NotR brings a lot more of familiar faces from the Colony, more quests, a whole new region, and so on.
     
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  17. octavius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Won't it be a more authoritative experience if you play vanilla G2 first, and then NotR?
     
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    Most people usually don't play long RPGs twice so it's better to play with NOTR, and then try vanilla Gothic 2 for comparison.
     
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  19. Zerth Arbiter

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    I haven't played vanilla Gothic II, after beating G1, I jumped onto G2 NOTR straightaway.

    NOTR is pretty tough in general but reaching lategame is something else, considering I went full STR dragonSlayer, scraped XP out of everything, brew STR elixirs for the berserker Axe and ditched the Beliar claw. Still couldn't beat the last boss without a summon scroll. Naive of me to think I could've been able to steamroll everything as on G1.
     
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  20. Cryomancer Arcane Glory to Ukraine

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    A Bethesdard who loves D3 enjoys arcania. Is everything that you need to know...

    PS : Arcania Sucks by the same reason that D3 sucks. Carnavalesque armor + a lot of ludonarrative dissonance.

    By the love of Adanos, why this hate towards returning? I mean, Mount & Blade has naruto and star wars mods. But someone makes a mod which makes dragons a dangerous enemies, allow the PC to become a water mage or a Xardas apprentice and ... "they are killing gothic"
     
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  21. I also recommend Gothic 1 first. I've just finished Gothic 1 and started Gothic 2 last week, having a fresh memory of the first part helps quite a bit with knowing who is who. The controls are pretty much alike. The main difference is combat. Strength is more important in Gothic 1 than your weapons skill, since criticral hits aren't as important as in Gothic 2. I think in Gothic 1 you do something around double damage with a crit while Gothic 2 gives you something like 10 times the damage. Your clunky attack animation gets improved when you level up your weapon skill in Gothic 1. You don't raise the crit percentage with every point as in Gothic 2.
     
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  22. Terenty Arbiter

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    Play all three of them.
     
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  23. Skdursh Savant

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    As far as Gothic 2 goes, if you installed it "correctly" (meaning with all the proper community mods/patches) you shouldn't be having any stuttering issues or anything else of the sort. If you're too lazy to do it yourself get the Spine mod manager and have it do everything for you.

    But yeah, Gothic 1 is an incredible game and despite its odd controls it's definitely worth playing. There are even mods to "fix" the controls if you can't be bothered to learn them although they do feel quite natural once you get the hang of it.
     
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  24. Tweed Professional Kobold Patron

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    Skip them all and play Ultima 9.
     
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  25. Falksi Arcane

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    I'd definitely try Gothic 1 first, but if you're finding it shit don't be afraid of dropping it for Gothic 2.

    I liked it, but it was just so buggy & annoying to run, that I ragged in around halfway through and jumped on board Gothic 2.

    Risen 2 is where it's really at for PB games though.
     
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