PoE is total SHIT, therefore BUY IT NOW - Steam Curator Page X Review

[ArchAngel]

Is this another of the Codex topics where people argue just out of boredom?
I tried to read some of it but I cannot figure out what you people here are really arguing about.

 

[VentilatorOfDoom]

Dude, please. I highly doubt that you've performed all the options you've chosen when you've played BG, each and every time you've encountered lightning-based enemy. So I was replying to you in kind. Not to mention that enchanting that armor is nothing difficult, economically-wise - in all the simple encounters, you're finding suits of fine armor by the dosens. They all sell for what, 200 copper a piece? Adding lightning-proofed is another 100 hundred + reagents (which are also not that expensive). All together that's 1800 gold for the party to be prepared for all further elemental encounters. And there's only 4 kinds of elements so 7200 for the whole game - that's hardly economically taxing.

Besides, you don't even need all that - there are, IIRC, 3 animat encounters there. 2 scrolls of crackling bolt (or even 1 if you have any lightning spells in your party) are enough to solve each. Crafting 6 scrolls shouldn't be anywhere near hard.

I get it, even that encounter would have been a cakewalk had I only used lightning spells.

 

[Sensuki]

BG2 didn't let you swap armor, in BG1 and the IWD games you could.

No you couldn't (not in combat)

 

[Shevek]

I hit a lul in mid act 2 as well (i wasnt a fan of the end of the second act either). The game finishes strong in the 3rd act though. The second city is smaller but feels better done and the quests feel more even in quality.

You hit lull in the game you praise/defend to death? I thought you'd eat through the game first time and then replay it several times with different chars/party composition. I guess Josh wasn't joking about not wanting to make his games addictive.

I atated this in previous threads. Basically, the same thing happens to me in BG1 (once I enter the city) and BG2 (once I collect the cash). I think with PoE it happens a bit sooner due to storytelling issues but I feel the game recovers at the end in ways BG1 and 2 do not.

I have been pretty open about where I think the game could improve. The thing is that acknowledging faults is not the same as declaring failure. I have never played a perfect game.

The thing is that I dont fixate on a handful of issues to the degree that it blinds me to the game as a whole.

 

[Ulminati]

Bottom line: no positive review and the guy that was going to write a "less crushing review" changed his mind after realizing the Codex sentiment about PoE went from "mixed" to "mostly negative" was actually just trolling IE fans.


So...about that Steam Curator page...?

Not going anywhere, sorry.

Also, you haven't paid that close attention to the thread

So once someone writes a positive review you will promote it to the "official" one and stick it on the curator? Sounds like the kind of bullshit you like to do and then blame on other people when we call you on it. In before ventilatorofdoom gets fed up with your shilling again.

 

[Infinitron]

It's not within my power to tell people what review is official or not. The Steam curator is my territory, however, and as the OP states, attaching a negative review to a game recommendation is rather absurd anyway.

 

[Zorba the Hutt]

It's not within my power to tell people what review is official or not.

Out of interest, whose 'plan' was this then?

Roxor was never "handed off" reviewing responsibilities. He presented the Codex staff with a finished review despite the fact that we never asked him to write one. As I explained in the review thread, the original plan was for Grunker & VD to write the Codex's official review.

Does Crooked B decide this stuff or is it the staff as a whole?

 

[Ulminati]

So that's a yes. If someone writes a positive review, you will attempt to point people to that one to divert attention away from roxors review.

And I guess if someone else from the staff adds roxors review to it, you'll remove it. Cue picture of moderation log where you repeatedly unsticky a thread Jarlfrank has stickied in GRPGD after jaesun left.

 

[VentilatorOfDoom]

Blame me, DarkUnderlord warned me to not give him moderator powers but I didn't listen.

 

[made]

Cue picture of moderation log where you repeatedly unsticky a thread Jarlfrank has stickied in GRPGD after jaesun left.

Link to this newest outrage?

 

[Ulminati]

Blame me, DarkUnderlord warned me to not give him moderator powers but I didn't listen.

I think ~80% of my posts in moderator forum were me saying Infinitron should not be given more power than copypastaing into news.

(The last ~20% were probably calling Crispy and HumanityHasRisen shitposters)

Cue picture of moderation log where you repeatedly unsticky a thread Jarlfrank has stickied in GRPGD after jaesun left.

Link to this newest outrage?

No thread. Just some moderator/exmoderator chats outside the forums.

 

[Infinitron]

If Ulminati's new mission is to expose staff "corruption", he should know that said thread belongs to a shitposter who's also a real life friend of JarlFrank's, who keeps bugging him to rescue his stupid threads from being retardoed.

 

[VentilatorOfDoom]

For the record, that thread was indeed retarded.

 

[made]

real life friend of JarlFrank's

That's highly implausible. But keep going guys, this might be good.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

It's not within my power to tell people what review is official or not. The Steam curator is my territory, however, and as the OP states, attaching a negative review to a game recommendation is rather absurd anyway.

Lololo why aren't you writing your own.

 

[Kz3r0]

Blame me, DarkUnderlord warned me to not give him moderator powers but I didn't listen.

Never put an AI in power, didn't you learn anything from Alpha Centauri, System Shock, Ass Effect or Terminator?
The name Skynet or Shodan means nothing to you?
I hope you still have a mouth, because you will have to scream.

 

[Ulminati]

Lololo why aren't you writing your own.

That would require more effort than ctrl-c, ctrl-ving whatever's on the front page of RPS and Kotaku.
You have to get the goyim to do the work for you, then pick whatever they make that suits your agenda and bury the rest in megathreads.

Less effort on your behalf. And if somoene complains, you can shift the blame onto someone else.

 

[Eyestabber]

The Steam curator is my territory, however, and as the OP states, attaching a negative review to a game recommendation is rather absurd anyway.

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Don't twist my words, bro. I said recommending a game with only bad reviews is rather absurd, not the other way around. And calling Roxor's review "a negative review" instead of "OUR negative review" is a pretty shady thing to do. Last I checked, Roxor had Staff credentials and wrote on the RPG Codex page, not a personal blog, not his personal facebook/twatter page. When a member posts a random review from RPS, IGN or whatever you're free to call it "a review", but calling Roxor's review "a review"...? Your language betrays you, man.

I really don't wanna ruffle feathers, being a random newfag and all, so I'm just gonna unwatch this thread before any more cheap sophistry pushes me over the edge.

 

[roshan]

BG2 didn't let you swap armor, in BG1 and the IWD games you could.

No you couldn't (not in combat)

I just tested it in IWD2 and you can in fact swap armor in combat... I don't have vanilla IWD installed to test but I'm guessing you can do it in that game as well since the sequel allows it. I'm also pretty sure it could be done in vanilla BG1, but TOSC might have changed it? I also suppose that in the EE versions you can't because it's based on the BG2 engine. I only recall the armor swapping restriction in BG2.

 

[ArchAngel]

-Grabs popcorn and waits for more drama-

 

[Sensuki]

I just tested it in IWD2 and you can in fact swap armor in combat... I don't have vanilla IWD installed to test but I'm guessing you can do it in that game as well since the sequel allows it. I'm also pretty sure it could be done in vanilla BG1, but TOSC might have changed it? I also suppose that in the EE versions you can't because it's based on the BG2 engine. I only recall the armor swapping restriction in BG2.

You can't do it in BG1, BG2 or IWD1, possibly with a mod though. IWD2 has lots of retarded shit in it, so that wouldn't surprise me.

 

[Brotherman Bill]

Dude, please. I highly doubt that you've performed all the options you've chosen when you've played BG, each and every time you've encountered lightning-based enemy. So I was replying to you in kind. Not to mention that enchanting that armor is nothing difficult, economically-wise - in all the simple encounters, you're finding suits of fine armor by the dosens. They all sell for what, 200 copper a piece? Adding lightning-proofed is another 100 hundred + reagents (which are also not that expensive). All together that's 1800 gold for the party to be prepared for all further elemental encounters. And there's only 4 kinds of elements so 7200 for the whole game - that's hardly economically taxing.

Besides, you don't even need all that - there are, IIRC, 3 animat encounters there. 2 scrolls of crackling bolt (or even 1 if you have any lightning spells in your party) are enough to solve each. Crafting 6 scrolls shouldn't be anywhere near hard.

I get it, even that encounter would have been a cakewalk had I only used lightning spells.

PoE has no hardcounters -----------> WAAAAAAAAH MOMMY PoE HAS NO HARD COUNTERS

PoE has some hardcounters after all -----------> WAAAAAAH MOMMY THE GAME GETS TOO EASY WHEN I HAVE HARD COUNTERS

 

[Lhynn]

Wonder if infi is feeling the pressure right bout now.

Bwahahahaha I was sleeping

You wonder why no PoE fan wants to argue with you? Look at this fucking thread.

I dont actually wonder why no PoE fan wants to argue with me, most of them cant seem to go beyond "but the game is goOOoooOod". So when i tell them why i think the game is flawed it stands to reason that theyll go

on me. (look at that, this time the picture did get used in the right context)

But youll hear no disagreement from me, i do think the game is good (as in a resounding 6 if you were to put it into numbers), i just believe a lot of its core elements are shit, not just flawed, but totally broken.

Also i was joking there champ, no hurt feelings i hope.

 

[VentilatorOfDoom]

PoE has no hardcounters -----------> WAAAAAAAAH MOMMY PoE HAS NO HARD COUNTERS

PoE has some hardcounters after all -----------> WAAAAAAH MOMMY THE GAME GETS TOO EASY WHEN I HAVE HARD COUNTERS

I did not complain about the lack of hard-counters, although I consider that design philosophy dumb.

I did initially raise some points, namely, limited inventory access during combat, limited options in comparison to the IE games (and I merely gave one example), loading screens, endurance/health split that actually leads to you having to rest more instead of just expending resources, healing up and going on. Points that I consider to detract from a fun gameplay experience. The answer was to ignore all that and instead telling me how that encounter is super-easy when you do xyz. Spice it up by pretending I had said "no options at all" instead of "limited options in comparison..." and VOILA! ALL POINTS RAISED ARE INVALID

 

[almondblight]

Something you don't agree with isn't any less real. Shocking, I know.

Not being considered the real review might have to do with the fact that it was presented with caveats about being Darth Roxor's opinion, isn't linked to on Steam, staff members getting pissy when Grunker said the Codex had a review of the game so he didn't see the need to make another one, and even you being unsure if it should be linked to on Steam and talking about how they can unlink it when the real alternate review comes out. None of that really screams "this is the RPG Codex's review of the game."