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Discussion in 'News & Content Feedback' started by VentilatorOfDoom, Sep 28, 2010.

  1. Lomm Cuz Novice

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    Maybe you are The Jew there...
     
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  2. Brother None inXile Entertainment Developer

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    I do. But on NMA we also moderate to keep nonsensical debates like these from evening happening. I'm not going to self-regulate my behaviour amongst a bunch of retards.

    Besides, none of that was aimed at you. You keep applying it to yourself as if I'm making universal statements. That's on you, bro. I'm talking about tards like Relay up there.

    Pretty much brah. Crippling the concept of IP by defining it as "not property" simply because is is not a material will somehow magically help those who works in IP-based industries :salute:
     
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  3. markec Twitterbot Patron

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    Are you a moron or are you just living in a La La land? GoG is a business like any other, they used money to buy rights to sell games just like Steam or any other digital distributor, only difference is that they have focused on selling older titles which in many cases were considered abandoware.
    News flash, many games on Steam or DtD also sell games whos developers are long time dead, same as retail stores. Should they all just give shit for free, or does a game becomes free for all the moment its developers ceases to exist?
     
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  4. Brother None inXile Entertainment Developer

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    Pretty much, yeah. Publishers are greedy jews. What right have they to interpret a contract in which they invest all the money and carry all the risk in return of rights in perpetuity as actually meaning in perpetuity?

    FILTHY THIEVES :x
     
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  5. bossjimbob Liturgist

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    As I understand it, they buy the distribution rights from whatever publisher, studio, or individual currently owns the IP, they put some programming time into writing an installer so the games run on modern hardware, they convert user manuals into convenient PDF files, and toss in some other freebies like soundtracks or art imagery to sweeten the deal. No, they didn't make the game, and unless some of the original devs still own the IP they're not getting cash, but I disagree that GOG are a bunch of "lazy bums" who deserve to get ripped off on principle.

    The way I see it, they're providing a means for a newer generation to experience these classic games without resorting to torrenting "abandonware" or relying on user-made patches to get the stuff to function. They have a staff who supports the products they sell. They also don't dick around with DRM so this rewards the honest customer. That's worth 10 bucks in my book.
     
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  6. Morkar Left Guest

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    Right. They founded their own company which means they invested their own money (or loaned money). They took the risk and therefore they can decide how they want something get done. And if they can´t do it all alone they hire people and pay them money for doing it their way. The hired people agree to this conditions. If they think the conditions suck, they can do it like Activison and found their own company. Then they can... you get the point ;)
     
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  7. Tails Arbiter

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    Good god, this discussion is still going on? give it a brake people, one side won't convince another one.

    Well regarding compatibility, most of the work do companies by realising GOG exclusive patch. or just Dosbox which has neat support of DOS games. Rest of the games, like PS:T still have the old issues under WinXP or Interstate'76 buggy re-release as hell. Fan-made patches always will come handy.
     
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  8. bossjimbob Liturgist

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    True. I applied a couple of those patches to improve the game's visuals. My point is that to simply buy the game from GOG ensured that it would run on install, even on Win7 64 bit. Fan patches made sure it looked its best. I just like the convenience and insurance of buying an old game through a service rather than relying solely on user-made patches or hacks.

    In contrast, I bought KotOR via Steam a few weeks ago. Despite whatever compatibility they promised on newer machines the damn thing wouldn't run on install until I tracked down a fan forum post with a link to a driver file or something. It was a total pain in the ass.

    I like convenience and am willing to pay a little extra for it, whether that means supporting a service (like GOG) that does the compatibility coding, or by purchasing a re-issue on console (or PC) such as with the Monkey Island HD remakes.
     
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  9. ghostdog Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    In order to disrupt this futile discussion, I'm posting one of the shitty PST wallpapers I made when I was looking for PST wallpapers and found even shittier ones...

    [​IMG]
     
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  10. Melcar Arcane

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    Nice tits.
     
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  11. ghostdog Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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  12. Antihero Liturgist

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    Well... sometimes they are a little half-assed about it I find:
    Might and Magic VI crashes after launch
    It seems that unofficial patch also has a NoCD option (and that's GOG's link)... but I'm not sure exactly what the "fix" in it is.

    Plus it seems like all the earlier ones crash after the title screen for me on WinXP, whether running as the admin or not. Used a more or less "pristine" version under DOSBox and imgmounted the game from the config's autoexec to get it to work myself...

    At least I can't fault them about no DRM. I'd sooner support buying older games from GOG than, say, Steam. So you can hardly complain about them making it harder to preserve the classics, or whatever.
     
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  13. Turjan Arcane

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    Nice work :).

    I still have a PS:T box with a 4 CD version, a patch CD, a manual, a poster, and some silly NPC cards. I would like to convert it to an English version, though.
     
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  14. Winter Ale Novice

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    Huh,

     
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  15. Nark Augur

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  16. The Vanished One Prophet

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    $9.99 for the first game only? Way, way overpriced. I paid 2.90 € for the 3-in-1 boxset (IWD+HoW+IWDII) in a local superstore and although that price might have been unusually low I wouldn't pay more than 10 € for all three.
     
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  17. CrimHead Scholar

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    ghostdog=hero
     
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  18. BethesdaLove Arbiter

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    IP older than 10 to 20 years should not be intellectual property.
    Although the pharma industry disagrees.

    BN, are you by any chance a future vidya game developer?
     
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  19. made Arcane

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    He snapped when he became "part of the industry" and Bethesda started paying him for reviews.
     
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  20. markec Twitterbot Patron

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    Should music, films and books follow the same trend?
     
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  21. FeelTheRads Arcane Patron

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    I'm sure you have a very valid explanation for why that would be.

    Note: I WANTZ FREE STUFF is not gonna cut it. :roll:
     
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  22. BethesdaLove Arbiter

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    The only problem is the moral entitlement of a single individual to his "property". But property is a legal concept and morals not absolute. There is no law of the universe binding you to your stick man picture from the second grade or even your house! The society of humans grants you the right to profit from something you invested energy in. And when the society thinks that you profited enough, it lifts your monopoly on your property.

    We as a capitalistic society of lowly physical beings decided that physical property (however defined) belongs to us for life and then to our closest blood relatives.

    IP is different though because technically its not physical anymore. So we as a society grant you monopoly rights on your ideas only for a limited time so afterwards we as a society can broadly profit from it. At least thats the case with pharmaceuticals. You give up your rights to further the cause of the human race as a cosmopolitan would put it.

    I would like to write here about the actual concept of 'idea' but that would be way to much writing. Lets just say that imo your super new awesome idea (tm) is not truly yours.

    So, now, we extend the practices of the pharma laws regarding IP to all information.
    We leave an amount of time to the rights holder of the 'idea' so he can try to profit of it and after that time, we as a society enjoy the novel cultural, technical, whatever information. Be it your picture, story, melody, antenna design, algorithm...

    Legally, book authors back in 1700 had 15 years of IP according to Wikipedia. Pharma have now 10? years.

    Economically, this forces the profit oriented information 'creator' to invest into creation of new information.

    Morally, there can be a lot of different justifications for this method depending on the morals you choose.




    COMMUNISM FOR EVERYONE!
     
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  23. Fowyr Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Yes. Modern copyright laws worse than sodomy with HIV-positive ugly nigger.
     
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  24. Harold Arcane

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    They put dosbox and scene cracks
    They get them from replacementdocs
    They get them from fansites or limited edition dvd torrents
    So basically they put together stuff for you if you're too lazy to download them yourself after not removing the game from the inventory.

    Also:
    Hear me, brave Brother None! I strongly request that if you feel the need to justify your jewish cocksucking, to at least put some effort into creating an excuse that stands up to even the basest :M scrutiny. This 'I get my games legally' high-horse faggotry nonsense is kind of boring
     
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  25. FeelTheRads Arcane Patron

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    I wonder how a PDF is more convenient that a printed manual.
     
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