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Raw numbers for PoE's dialogue checks

Discussion in 'Obsidian Entertainment' started by Bubbles, Apr 23, 2015.

  1. Bubbles I'm forever blowing

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    Here are the numbers for all dialogue/text adventure checks made in the game, determined by searching the .conversation files with grep. About 40% of them are redundant with another check (like some background checks offering an alternate Lore check).

    Mind you, the dialogue unlocked by these checks could still be shit.

     
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  2. SausageInYourFace Angelic Reinforcement Patron

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    Cipher gets 17 checks and all other classes barely a handful? Mh.
     
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  3. Angthoron Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Nice list.

    Seems I unwittingly played the most stat-checked route, heh.
     
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    Boosted by all the occasions where you can replace GM if you are Cipher yourself. So not really that big a difference.

    But quite clearly shows how much more potential that one class has compared to everything else.
     
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  5. Beowulf Arcane

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    Male dwarf liberal arts student with focus on constitution and stealth - my idea for a new character. So I can replay the game with minimal exposure to it's exceptional writing; which - as we all know (except Irenaeus) - is average.
     
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    I went dwarf paladin... Well played, Obsidian, you fucking ableist cis-het racist patriarcal privileged neckbeard shitlords. I'm taking this up to Aneeta! :smug:
     
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  8. Atchodas Augur

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  9. Stompa Arcane

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    Must've missed 2 of those somehow. From what I remember there were Bleak Walker-specific dialogue options with Raedric and lionesses's supporter in the Maw, and reactions from those assholes near the dragon's egg and the head priest in Ethik Mol or whatever the fuck that place with sacrifices in Twin Elms was called. Can't recall if the assassin party in Stormwall Gorge checked for BW.

    Surprisingly those I've rarely seen, given just how much mercenary work there is in the game. Aside from the one at the start of the game, there was a check with that noble in Dyrford, Iovara at the end of the game and maybe with Kolsc. Either the rest were so banalshitboring I can't remember them or I must've picked some wrong choices, but I'm sure I haven't seen mercenary-only dialogue options, only reactions from NPCs.
     
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  10. Wulfstand Prophet

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    Most of them are either shit, or cringe-worthy shit. (i.e. Philosopher )
     
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  11. Brzęczyszczykiewicz Arcane

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    Any examples?
     
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  12. Wulfstand Prophet

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  13. Carrion Arcane Patron

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    I don't remember seeing a single rogue check during my playthrough, and I thought I was very thorough. I think I got most if not all of the background checks (Old Vailia - Dissident) as well.
     
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  14. Bubbles I'm forever blowing

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    Here are the Rogue checks:

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    To Irensi: "Perhaps Sul hides behind the perils of the Maw because she's forgotten how to navigate them." (for Ranger or Rogue)

    To Durance: ""When you departed for Halgot Citadel to strike at Eothas, you traveled so no one could recognize you, correct?"" if you are a Rogue or have Int >15

    And one with Grieving Mother for Chanters or Rogues that looks like cut content :argh: The entire .conversation file does not have a corresponding .stringtable file (for dialogue text), but there's a "02" version of the conversation file that doesn't include the rogue/chanter check anymore.


    The only companions whose dialogue has "v2" or "02" tags are Durance and Grieving Mother - I'm assuming the version change was due to Avellone's cut content. Grieving Mother has a huge conversation file with Durance (companion_cv_gm_durance.conversation) containing over 100 pieces of inter-companion dialogue that reference non-existing text files. They must have cut a ton of MCA's stuff.
     
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    Read all about it here: http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/78683-cut-content-durance-and-grieving-mother/
     
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  16. Carrion Arcane Patron

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    Thanks. I think the second one was displayed as an INT check for me, which is what I suspected. Maybe I just forgot about the first one.
     
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    :( That's the one I chose in my first playthrough.
     
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  18. Dragoon Educated

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    Great list. I love you Bubbles.
     
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  19. Bubbles I'm forever blowing

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    Did a quick pass to remove the checks from the unused GM conversation files from the list. Cipher haters will be happy to hear that they lost 5 unused checks!

    Also lost one of each for Fighter, Barbarian, Rogue, Ranger, Chanter, Wizard, Magran and Intellect. MCA really loved his class checks.
     
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    Fuck man GM and Durance pre-cut sounded so dark and interesting, why did they decide to go ahead and cut that out?
     
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  21. Atchodas Augur

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    Because it wouldnt appeal to target audience ( 12 year old steam users )
     
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  22. roshan Arcane

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    I guess it was just too fun and/or grognardy.
     
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  23. Bubbles I'm forever blowing

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    I forgot about the Disposition checks. They're mostly well balanced, but three are checked significantly more often than the others:

    If you care about the best role playing experience, an Aggressively Benevolently Cruel character is the way to go.
     
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  24. Atchodas Augur

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    Cruel , Clever , Deceptive , Aggressive my personal choice for every playtrough, except the first one where i thought that different answers in dialogue bare different results oh how naive i was :D

    Also when you are Deceptive and do quests for god of Lies and Secrets ( Wael ) you get punished for your disposition and get no quest reward LOL WUT :D i mean cmon , this is not primary school dont punish me for lie-ing when i said the truth for first time ever in the game
     
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  25. Shevek Arcane

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    How man times have you played through this game you hate so much?
     
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