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Returning 2.0 + Alternative Balancing The supreme experience for Gothic 2 NOTR.

Discussion in 'Piranha Bytes' started by Aholf Ditler, Jan 30, 2019.

  1. Aholf Ditler Novice

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    I was surprised that doing a search has not found anything about this wonderful mod, which makes Gothic 2 become the ultimate gaming experience.
    The modification alternative balancing is currently quite active and has many updates, adds to the already best-looking Returning campaign, new mapping taken from the other mod L'hiver, many more missions a lot of content in the form of interface improvement, new added to the interface, new Npcs, new missions, new armors, new zones.
    You can download it from here, where there are translations for German and English from Russian that come out at the same time as the original Russian updates.
    https://forum.worldofplayers.de/for...ancing-Installation-Stand-Fragen-Antworten-28
    The voices are all in Russian but the game is subtitled in english/german, it is ironic that from Russia comes what most makes me enjoy lately
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  2. JDR13 Prophet

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    To me, Gothic 2+NotR is already as close to perfect as it gets.
     
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  3. taxalot Gone forever. Patron

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    I have not _EVER_ played a rebalancing mod that felt satisfying past the first hours. The only one I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt next time I play the game is GMDX.
     
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  4. Why does it need to be rebalanced? The balance in the base game and expansion were perfect. I botched my character and ended up still beating the game by spamming high level spells at the end of the game. Just had to carry a lot of potions.
     
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  5. Aholf Ditler Novice

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    The Rebalance is for the Mod Returning 2.0 that is very difficult and add a lot of content very interesting for the game Base+ Expansion.
     
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  6. jarmaro Arbiter

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    The Returning is a sacrilege made by some russians, who think that stealing other games' content and assets and mixing it in the most disgusting way possible is something to be proud of.
    This "modification" is a pile of garbage no one should even look at.
     
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  7. Aholf Ditler Novice

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    Can you explain what you say in more detail?
    Im trying the rebalance mod + Returning 2.0 and I'm liking it a lot, I've previously finished gothic 2 + night of the raven three times
     
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  8. Mitko Barely Literate

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    can you help me to run after i start a new game it loads almoust till the end and than acess violation pop up saying something about AST.dll
     
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  9. Gorn Novice

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    I can vouch for G2 + Returning. I've not played AB yet but from the patchnotes it looks like a bigger improvement still.

    Just play it my man, it's been a great experience for me up until the temple in Chapter 6 (got sick of combat by then).
     
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  10. Murk Arcane

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    I tried it out a few months ago and the godawful translation was just too much for me to bear. I also disliked some of the fundamental changes they made to the game mechanics (combat animations, etc.).

    If the translation gets fixed I'd be tempted to try again, but otherwise -- pass.
     
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  11. Mitko Barely Literate

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    https://ibb.co/yXYPQdV u can see it here
     
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  12. Aholf Ditler Novice

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    No its finished also, we need to wait some time for get the final version, the developers have put a date of 2020 or 2021.
     
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  13. deama Liturgist

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    https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofgothic/comments/9bkkvk/gothic_2_returning_translation_any_good/

    Ehh, apparentely the translation sucks donkey balls and the devs don't care that it sucks?
     
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  14. Metallo Literate

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    I played Gothic Returning 2.0 without Alternative Balance two years ago and yes it's really hard.
    The translation is shit and there are a lot of words in russian language not even translated. It's just a copy paste in Google Translate, so you often need to interpret the sentences. I admit that the journal saved my a lot of time...
    Russian modders added a lot of gameplay feature such crafting every kind of gear, from arrows and bows to armor set and their upgrade, looting materials in caves and woods in a kind of survival game style. They added a few secondary guild (the assassins and the hunters) and three new faction (Water Mages, Necromancers and Swamp Sect) wich play a role in the main quest just like paladins, mercenaries and fire mage were in the original Gothic 2.
    There are a lot of new added secondary quest and NPCs. I think the population is more than the double of the original game and the added NPCs are almost always related to a quest.
    There are new dungeon, houses, roads. They modified almost every gameplay mechanics like teleporter stone, alchemy, crafting in a more complex but good way.

    A lot of 3D models and textures added in the game are made by exctracting them from games like Gothic, Gothic3, Oblivion and Skyrim. I don't know how they do it but the final result is not bad. Altough I don't know if it's legal...
    If you are a veteran in Gothic series I think you can enjoy this mod... of course the original Gothic 2 NOTR is a real pearl of a game and don't need to be modified but this mod could be a different way to re-play it.
    I played this mod first time without AB and I was going to fight the dragons in the valley then I left it, don't remeber why...
    The second time was with AB and the game was more easy but I left it again during a new quest in Jharkendar with a neutral dragon who told me a loooot of things without understanding anything.
     
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  15. deama Liturgist

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    Damn, I really wanna play it but I wanna play it with a good translation; maybe one day some decent russian>english translator will do it, I can wait.
     
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  16. Aholf Ditler Novice

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    I think that when the mod is completely finished, a good translation will be made.
     
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  17. Metallo Literate

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    Wait. The mod is not finished yet?
    I heard about a mod called Gotha, if i remember correct, that is a kind of Returning 3.0. Do you have know anything about it?
    Sadly all the information about those mods are in russian language.
    Same for the mod called History of Khorinis. A polish community of modder are working on it but there are really poor information in english language.
    The last news I read about it was that the team split in two and now there are two different project.
     
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  18. passerby Savant

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    Would look quiet nice, if not for chromatic aberration, the fuck is wrong with gamers and their love for retarded postprocessing effects.
     
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  19. Aholf Ditler Novice

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    Returning 2.0 is finished, im talking about "alternative balancing"


    Im using only a filters for fix jaggies in the farest flora.
     
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  20. passerby Savant

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    There is pretty heavy chromatic aberration on these screenshots, everything is blurry as fuck, it's the most visible on fonts that have blurry red outline on the left side and blurry blue one on the right side.
    Out of all postprocessing garbage, I hate chromatic aberration the most, long exposure to this vile, pointless effect makes my eyes tear up.

    What blows my mind the most are gamedevs that see such screenshots and suddenly feel the need to destroy graphics in their new game too. Fresh example: Cyberpunk 2077, at least it's less intense there, but still unnecessary.
    Some idiot was inspired by low quality VHS tapes from the 80s and decided it will fit thematically I guess, hence the art style "enchancement".
     
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  21. Metallo Literate

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    Ehm... Why are you comparing screenshots from an amateur made mod of a game released in 2002 with Cyberpunk 2077?
     
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  22. passerby Savant

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    In both cases it's pontless and bad. The current crop of bad postprocessing in modern AAA games seems to mimmic popular shitty ENB pressets for old games.
     
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  23. Aholf Ditler Novice

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    Why many people always criticize and complain about everything?. There will be good configurations of shaders and bad as with everything and there are tastes for everyone.

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  24. passerby Savant

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    I'm curious about the mindset... more contrast and saturation I can understand, also depends on quality of your display, but could you explain what is so attractive about chromatic aberration that makes it must have for you ?
     
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  25. Duraframe300 Arcane

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    Reshade looks terrible in 90% of all instances. Those screenshots included.
     
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