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RimWorld - Damned Colonists in Space

Discussion in 'Strategy and Simulation' started by Tzaero, Sep 16, 2013.

  1. Emily Arcane

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    I get where you are coming from, but this is a very slippery slope type of thing that makes companies not support modding at all as it leads into this type of scenario

    Mod called Rimworld of magic is a phenomenal mod that has the idea of abilities being tied to magic and stamina and adds bunch of classes.

    However currently, there is a mod for every single thing in Rimworld.

    He would just not be able to put any DLC if that was the case of him needing to be 100 percent original.

    That said, the update 1.1 is completely free, and you can play any new mod (including Rimworld of Magic which is pretty much best ability mod out there) with it so i dont see the big deal.

    And plus, nobody has yet played the new mod from start to finish.
     
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  2. Trash Pointing and laughing.

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    Waiting for the inevitable Dune mod now.
     
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  3. thesecret1 Arcane

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    Are you retards actually mad about a dev releasing an expansion? This is not some shitty cut content repackaged as paid DLC like Paradox does, nor does it hide vital fixes behind a paywall. It's a normal fucking expansion like in the old days. Or did you also bitch when Tribunal came out for Morrowind?
     
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  4. Jonathan "Zee Cat Magister

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    Luciferium being the special "spice" :lol:


    Agree and indee, for me the mostly valuable that came from this is the improvements with the 1.1 update to the engine/code itself.
     
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  5. Theodora Arcane Patron Glory to Ukraine

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    Good on the dev. The amount of life in the base game is already baffling, and the money is probably going more unique games (they've been hiring lately).
     
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  6. Alienman Alien/Man Patron

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    Okay, Tynan ;)
     
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  7. ChaDargo Arbiter

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    This isn't how modding works in Rimworld, and Royalty is just a mod. Other mods won't require this DLC unless they are a direct extension of its functionality. Unless a mod requires another mod's functionality, they are built solely to require Core. Then, if another mod is popular enough, you can create an additional mod that patches yours to fit the bigger mod. Look at Combat Extended.

    And Royalty is nowhere near the comprehensive, fundamental changes made by Combat Extended.
     
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  8. Theodora Arcane Patron Glory to Ukraine

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    i wish lol
     
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  9. ChaDargo Arbiter

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    Do you not like the game? If you don't, why post in this thread? If you do, why do you have this compulsion to shit on the dev or anyone who appreciates his work and his game?
     
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  10. ChaDargo Arbiter

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    First, Royalty isn't required even if you purchased it. You can switch it off. Second, if anyone makes a mod that's a direct extension of its functionality... then of course you'll need it. But most mods are built off of Core. If the require compatibility with really popular mods, that's taken into consideration. Patches are a thing.

    Royalty is nowhere near Combat Extended in terms of scope or depth of changes. There are dozens if not hundreds of mods that conflict with CE... so people release patches. Royalty is no different from any other large mod: if it becomes popular enough, modders can patch their shit if they get enough requests and want to do so.

    I think the problem you're having is you think of it as an add-on to Core, as would happen in a lot of other games. But that's not the case.

    I also don't think it has amazing original content, as I haven't played it yet. I'm saying look at mods like Save Our Ship, Androids++, Combat Extended, Rimfeller, the gigantic collection of mods that add up to Call of C'thulu experience. The list goes on and on. None of these have split the community or caused catastrophes. People pick and choose what they use, modders pick and choose what adjustments or patches to make for compatibility. Royalty is the same thing.

    Rimworld is incredibly versatile in how it can be modded and in how its community mods it.
     
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  11. DDZ Red blood, white skin, blue collar Patron

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    Alienman needs a dumbfuck tag.

    Few hours in unmodded game with DLC, liking it quite a bit so far. There is much more added to the game with this DLC than what the summary would make you believe.
     
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  12. Alienman Alien/Man Patron

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    Enjoy paying up the ass for future DLCs then, I think it's you that should have a dumbfuck tag.
     
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  13. ChaDargo Arbiter

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    I think the problem is that he doesn't understand this:
    [​IMG]

    Also, I just started my first colony with the DLC, unmodded as well. First thing I notice is there's no ancient danger as far as I can see (which is mandatory in map generation in vanilla?). I think I read this in the patch notes in 1.1, that they were making them more interesting. But then there's the second thing I noticed:

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    Fuckin graveyards ruins.
     
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  14. ChaDargo Arbiter

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    Oh no, they'll make premium mods in the future and I can choose to pay for them or choose to freely download the fan-made versions if they're better. And no modder makes his shit off of another mod unless that mod is badass and popular they use Core so any "premium" DLC by Ludeon won't change shit! AAAAAAAAAH!

    Surely we live in the worst of :decline:
     
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  15. Alienman Alien/Man Patron

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    Just saying. Have fun fucking around with all that, and have fun waiting another 6 months to 1 year for all the mods to finally catch up again. It's already a cluster fuck searching for patches, making sure what mods work together and so on. Now we have to pleasure of matching DLC content to that too.

    I have a hard time seeing how a payed DLC is exactly the same as any other mod compatibility-wise, because in the case of mods I can pick and chose whatever I like and match, without having to worry to pay anything, also I can try out shit free.

    I also hardly believes this will be a one-off DLC to be released if it proves to be popular, and it seems you guys are willing to pony up 17 Euros for this content pack so I'm sure more stuff is coming. The future for Rimworld is going to be interesting.
     
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  16. ChaDargo Arbiter

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    Let me help you, good sir. You seem retarded.

    Here's another one, from Fluffy (just some random modder to you, right?):
    I have a copy of Rimworld with over 100 mods. If I want to play them in the "6 months to 1 year" I'll be waiting (lol), I'll go over to that copy of Rimworld and play it.

    "I have a hard time seeing how a payed DLC is exactly the same as any other mod compatibility-wise"

    Exactly. You're having a hard time understanding how mods work in this fucking game. 1.1 is a change to core, that's the shitstorm if you can call it that. Royalty is a fucking mod like any other mod. The medieval mod, CE, LotR mods, Star Wars mods, etc etc. It doesn't change Core, which is what modders use to make their fucking mods unless they are deriving direct functionality from another mod (ie, making special force powers mods for a broader Star Wars mod).
     
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  17. ChaDargo Arbiter

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    Here's an interesting conversation between Orion and some fans about his mod, Hospitality, which may have become obsolete if what the DLC offers is better (there's some hospitality functions in the DLC but no one has seen them in practice yet).
    Hospitality is a great mod. The DLC might offer something better. If it does and people like the other content the DLC adds, they'll pick the DLC and other mods that conflict can get patched. If people don't like the DLC, they can play Hospitality. This process has been going on for years with this game when it comes to updates to Core by Ludeon or big, new mods. You're just blinded because to you $$$ = EVIL SHIT IS HAPPENING.
     
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  18. Jonathan "Zee Cat Magister

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    Please share the extra details.
     
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  19. Alienman Alien/Man Patron

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    So everyone can use concepts and items from the payed DLC willy nilly without having to include the damn DLC compatibility in their mod? I know the difference between the patch and the actual DLC, but there is stuff in the DLC that might be of interest for the mod maker, like the whole psychic thing. I highly doubt mods will be able to use that without being required to actually list the DLC. Which means this DLC is a lot different from any other mod. Otherwise someone should just extract the files now and release Royalty as a free mod on workshop.
     
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  20. ChaDargo Arbiter

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    So if I like the aspect of Combat Extended that adds ammo but don't want to use Combat Extended, what do I do?

    How is what you just said regarding Royalty different?

    As for extracting the files and releasing them on steam, obviously that wouldn't work just as it wouldn't with any free mod. But what someone definitely could do is program their own version of various features the mod adds and release them as they please. Just as people have done by releasing Ammo mods. Or what have you.
     
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  22. Space Satan Arcane Vatnik

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    New game goes well
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  23. ChaDargo Arbiter

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    God damn lol How far into the game is it and what difficult are you on? How's that skill loss going with dementia? lol
     
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  24. Space Satan Arcane Vatnik

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    Randy, three people and only researching multi-analyzer. Thanks Randy
     
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  25. Zombra An iron rock in the river of blood and evil Patron

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    Nothing "suddenly" played in - getting hundreds of hours of quality entertainment out of a $30 (or $50) purchase is and always has been a good deal, any way you slice it. Characterizing Tynan as a cruel exploitative money-grubber is ridiculous on its face.

    Implying that time:$ must therefore be the only metric for good value is equally ridiculous.
     
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