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Editorial RPG Codex Report: PAX East 2015, or How Chris Avellone Called the Codex Unprofessional

Discussion in 'News & Content Feedback' started by Crooked Bee, Mar 16, 2015.

  1. serch Magister

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    If you are trying to calm the Codex, you are doing it wrong:desu:
     
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  2. Sordid MCA/Prosper Hybryd Arcane Patron

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    Oh Divine Tim of the Holy Troika, thou Holy One! Have mercy on us and save us from decline.

    Please tell us, if it were possible would you like to make another Arcanum installment?
     
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  3. Aenra Guest

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    i'm not going to tag the man, or annoy him in any way, so Tim.. assuming you get to read this..

    Thank you. More than you'd know. You'd need to hear of how i grew up so to understand. Thank you.
    I wish you well and happy with all my heart man.

    :love:
     
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  4. Vault Dweller Commissar, Red Star Studio Developer

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    The prophecies are true!
     
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  5. Anthony Davis Blizzard Entertainment Developer

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    One of us! One of us! One of us!




    You can never leave....
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  6. vivec Self-Ejected

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    SO PoE now has multiclassing? Great news!
     
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  7. Jaesun Fabulous Moderator

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    YES PLEASE!

    Seriously Obsidian/Tim DO THIS. PLEASE!

    :takemymoney:
     
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  8. Gary Indiana Arbiter

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    This is the best thread I have ever read anywhere.
     
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  9. Jim the Dinosaur Arcane

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    I think Cain has had his account long enough to post in GD.
     
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  11. Azalin Arcane Patron

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  12. garren Arcane Patron

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    Doesn't matter. Atari has some separate deal with GOG to distribute the game DRM-free, it doesn't make Tim's contract null and void.
     
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  13. I'm hoping that Tim Cain has the source code to Bloodlines squirreled away somewhere, but publishers gonna publish. Actually, with Bloodlines I think it is White Wolf who are the big bad - they shut down a fan remake project recently.
     
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  14. Perkel Arcane

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    Thanks !
    Bonus question: Does that mean that source code for Arcanum is in same legal state ?

    Yeah. What Atari does has nothing to do with Troika contract. Also GOG lists Hasbro not Atari... Does that mean TOEE as it is D&D game is now in Hasbro hands as all other D&D titles ?
     
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  15. Perkel Arcane

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    Pros:

    - New IP to shuffle with POE = more creativity, less making same game over and over again, New IP also means more fame which directly corresponds to money.

    Cons:

    - They are mid tier studio possibly doing one AAA game, plus 2 partnerships and POE. So they have limited human budget assuming they will want to strike when it's hot with POE2.


    Imo i think Obsidian will do new crowfunding for turn based RPG when they will be near release of their AAA project as AAA project ending means that ton of people will be free to work on something else assuming by then they won't have another contract for big game.
     
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  16. Lurker King Self-Ejected The Real Fanboy

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    My point is that players that criticize Sawyer for its design philosophy should also criticize Avellone for support the same idea. They don’t do that because all this talk about developers, either from fanboys or haters, is just irrational thinking about celebrities. The haters pictured Sawyer as if he represented decline, hence he must be boring, unimaginative, etc. Avellone fanboys think he represents incline because besides being an awesome writer, he is such a sweet and accessible guy. Thus, he must be always right, even when he agrees with Sawyer – “you know, he just said that because he is being polite and all”. The fact is that even these celebrities, who made great games and deserve our deepest respect and admiration, are just people. They are very bright, but they all have flaws.
     
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  17. Cosmo Arcane

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    Would there be the slightest possibility for you to do something à la Shadowrun Returns : by that i mean a game using D&D open licence rules (or a PoE turn-based variant), featuring a medium-lenght scenario and a strong campaign builder ?
    As you say, nature of the code makes it releasable on multiple platforms, and you could reuse graphical assets of past Obsidian games (does the company still have NWN 2 models for example ?).
    Anyway, let me tell you you lighted a damn fire saying you still had ToEE's code, and i'd hate it to go to waste.

    Or you could simply give us better tools to mod ToEE and Arcanum (awesome games, but god knows they could use it).
     
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  18. Lurker King Self-Ejected The Real Fanboy

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    Maybe you are right, Matt. I didn’t play the game yet. I just read the threads about POE. I guess that the mere hint of a suggestion that every character combination should be viable sounds like popamole thinking, thus triggering some irrational fears. I should think more before posting nonsense on the internet.
     
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  19. Prime Junta Self-Ejected Patron Vatnik

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    Stop making shit up. Can't you find actual things Sawyer did to woof about? Even I could if I wanted to, and I like at least 80% of his decisions in P:E mechanics.

    Weapons in P:E play very differently. Guns are extremely punchy but load extremely slowly: great for an opening volley, useless afterward (gimmick builds notwithstanding), whereas bows can maintain a constant rate of damage over an encounter but are much slower at taking down an individual target. Maces are not like morning stars which are not like stilettos, all of which are viable and powerful weapons.
     
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  20. Lurker King Self-Ejected The Real Fanboy

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    So true.
     
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  21. crakkie Arcane

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    Didn't Drog find out that they used a scene crack to make Arcanum "DRM-free" for GOG? The crackers' logo was embedded in the exe, viewable in a hex editor?

    Not that this would legally change anything it the contract. It just makes it more ludicrous.
     
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  22. Amasius Augur

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    Sure. But nice that some of my favorite obscure devs post here. If only Leonard would see the light again... (Boyarsky-fanboy here)
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    There is still something wrong with your sig though... :cry:
     
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  23. undecaf Arcane Patron

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    Did this use the code:



    Please do revive if ever possible... Turnbased this.
     
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  24. General Maxson Arcane

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    This... :love:

    I want to say, Sir, that you will always be cherished in my heart, as I have never played games that I liked more than Fallout 1 and especially Arcanum! I have a faint glimmer of hope that Arcanum 2 (or at least a spiritual successor) will see the light of day with You at the helm. Or any other game you have in mind.
     
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  25. mindx2 Codex Roaming East Coast Reporter Patron

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    I was just looking at all my PAX East photos and forgot about these two which didn't fit into my article but does show I went through heaven and hell just to bring the Codex the best content on the webz... :lol:

    100_8949 (768x1024).jpg

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