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Codex Review RPG Codex Review: Pathfinder Kingmaker

Discussion in 'News & Content Feedback' started by Infinitron, Aug 23, 2020.

  1. NJClaw OoOoOoOoOoh Patron

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    I'm Ridin' with Biden I'm Ridin' with Biden
    Oh boy, you are trying really hard to trigger our Desiderius.

    Now I want to see BLOOD.
     
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  2. Urthor Liturgist Patron

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    Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
    If Sawyer had made it you would have read those tooltips
     
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  3. TheSentinel Arcane

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    Yes it is. Reminds me a lot of ToEE.
     
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  4. LannTheStupid Товарищ Patron

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    That's very American Lawful Good approach.

    There was a post (may be by Xamenos ?) where someone kindly spent their time to compare original Pathfinder story and Pathfinder: Kingmaker plot. Owlcats made an intricate labyrinth of pranks out of a boring straightforward setting for rolling dice with pizza and beer.
     
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  5. Tavernking Don't believe his lies Patron Shitposter Developer

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    The review doesn't even mention the new turn-based combat
     
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  6. ERYFKRAD Barbarian Patron

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    Strap Yourselves In Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    A lotta words to say "Buy it, it's got barbarians."
     
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  7. Mark Richard Arcane

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    Do you lot really want to be among the crowd of people who claim there's only one true ending in a roleplaying game? That anyone who takes the villain's deal which skips content (refusing to fight Letho from The Witcher 2 skips an endgame boss battle, forming a demonic pact in Shadowrun: Hong Kong skips the final section) hasn't actually completed the game? Your attitude is antithetical to the very essence of RPGs.
     
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  8. Zer0wing Cipher

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    Except it's not just a forum post with fresh impressions but an extensive review that is supposed to view the game from many angles.
     
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  9. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    nobody is stopping you from posting a review from another POV
     
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  10. Roguey Codex Staff Sawyerite

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    I believe Sawyer did the wrong thing in trying to make a 3.5-derived system that doesn't appeal to 3.5 fans, but one thing he did right was not dump a bunch of different abilities on you from the start.

    Most reviews are written after a single playthrough. This is a hobby, not a job, and even people paid to do this only go through games once (and many times not even then).
     
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  11. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    anyone got those screencaps of game reviewer steam accounts with only a few hours played on games they reviewed?
     
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  12. Zer0wing Cipher

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    Welp, guess I'm too used to Darth Roxors writeups. :M
    Too lazy to do so rn.
    That's because gaming journalism's job is promotion.
     
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  13. Roguey Codex Staff Sawyerite

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    Can you cite him going through games multiple times because to my recollection he also only does them once and that's it.

    Anyway some fun achievement stats after nearly two years https://steamcommunity.com/stats/640820/achievements

    80% of people who start the game at least once finish the prologue, 50% clear chapter 1 (about 13 hours, more if doing optional content), 1/3 clear the first half of chapter 2, 1/4 clear the second half of chapter 2, 1/5 clear chapter 3, 17% clear chapter 4, 12% clear chapter 5, 7% see ending slides, 5.9% beat the bonus chapter. Seems like I'm part of the 1% who finish but can't be bothered to go all the way. Most people come nowhere near seeing this content. :)
     
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  14. Zer0wing Cipher

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    He gets all the way to the end.:M
    Saying that I harshly claim you to finish this content bloat ass of the video game twice is putting words in my mouth, that's inhuman request.
     
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  15. Roguey Codex Staff Sawyerite

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    I also got all the way to the end. :) Bonus content is just that. I don't believe it should be a requirement to have to visit every area and complete every sidequest in a RPG to review it, though the more that's seen, the more accurate it is. I let everyone know that I have no assessment on the few hours of content I didn't see. I doubt it would add much to the review; a few sentences at most.
     
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  16. LannTheStupid Товарищ Patron

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    And now you sound like Porky. Way to go, pal.
     
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  17. TheGameSquid Scholar

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    So this review comes out AFTER the Definitive Edition has been released, but does not discuss the turn-based combat at all? C'mon.
    Couldn't you have just postponed this review by a few weeks in order to take the TB mode for a test drive at least? We're already two years late here...

    (Still appreciate the effort behind this review though, lacking in thoroughness though it may be.)

    Anyway, I personally love Kingmaker, warts and all, and I'm not even a big RTwP fan. Yeah yeah it has wonky design issues, but it's still some of the most fun I've had with an actual CRPGs in the past 5 years or so.
     
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  18. Tyranicon A Memory of Eternity Developer

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    Shit that's pretty high praise. I'll need to redownload Pathfinder now.
     
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  19. Tyranicon A Memory of Eternity Developer

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    People who review games for a living especially do not play those games comprehensively. Ain't nobody got time for that, especially if you only have a limited time before you need to put the review up.
     
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  20. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    Can't fix stupid. It was the way to bet, but it turned out to be wrong.
     
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  21. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    Insert Title Here Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    Search my posts and you'll get more of that than you could ever want. Over 2000 hrs.
     
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  22. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    I usually replay the ones that promise replayability and aren't excessively long-ass (and/or crap). A few examples off the top of my head would be Risen, AoD and all Shadowruns.
     
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  23. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    Insert Title Here Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    You can switch difficulties on the fly, so for instance go Story Mode to fast forward thru Ch. 1 on third playthrough or whatnot.
     
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  24. Tyranicon A Memory of Eternity Developer

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    Now that I'm redownloading Pathfinder anyways, how's the modding scene? I'd expect that after two years, modders will have already fixed most of the common complaints people have.
     
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    Mods will fix it (tm).
     
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