Incline RPG Codex's Top 50 cRPGs - Results and Reviews

[felipepepe]

I see a distinct lack of Skyrim.

That's probably what places like NeoGAF will think when looking at the list... "No Skyrim? List is shit."

On the subject, I'm proud to say that there was not a single vote for Oblivion nor Fallout 3.

 

[tuluse]

Move Morrowind to third place, remove Dragon Age from the list and replace it with ROA 3. Swap Bloodlines and Divine Divinity. Give The Secret World a pity place in the list of also-rans.

There much worse games than Dragon Age: Origins on here.

It's a good game but it's not the best of anything. I just dislike such a flawed game being on a BEST ALL TIME thing.

I don't really care though.

Welcome to RPGs. Alpha Protocol did some really creative things and deserves a spot. Certainly over something like Icewind Dale.

 

[evdk]

I see a distinct lack of Skyrim.

That's probably what places like NeoGAF will think when looking at the list... "No Skyrim? List is shit."

On the subject, I'm proud to say that there was not a single vote for Oblivion nor Fallout 3.

Damn, I knew I forgot to vote for something.

 

[Bubbles]

Oh yeah, Icewind Dale is too. Unless you amend the saying to "For a great game, choose at least one out of writing, combat, and soundtrack".

Cosmology of Kyoto should have been on there too, and much higher than most of the drivel.

 

[Broseph]

I wish Arcanum didn't make the top 5 every damn time. For all its good parts it is just too heavily weighed down with shit. Codex gonna Codex, I guess.

 

[Bubbles]

It is the best Troika game, and with Bloodlines getting sixth place there isn't much wriggle room there. Thus, Bloodlines's bloated rating threatens the integrity of the entire list.

 

[tuluse]

I wish Arcanum didn't make the top 5 every damn time. For all its good parts it is just too heavily weighed down with shit. Codex gonna Codex, I guess.

Then make a better RPG


(speaking of which, I haven't tried your latest build.)

 

[Broseph]

I wish Arcanum didn't make the top 5 every damn time. For all its good parts it is just too heavily weighed down with shit. Codex gonna Codex, I guess.

Then make a better RPG


(speaking of which, I haven't tried your latest build.)

Do it faggot!

 

[evdk]

It is the best Troika game, and with Bloodlines getting sixth place there isn't much wriggle room there. Thus, Bloodlines's bloated rating threatens the integrity of the entire list.

The list has no integrity, stop being a drama queen.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

The codex has a hard on for "rough gems", and Arcanum is the ultimate rough gem (its edges are so rough, it's practically round). It won't budge from the top list, its butt is fastened to the seat with superglue.

 

[Bubbles]

It is the best Troika game, and with Bloodlines getting sixth place there isn't much wriggle room there. Thus, Bloodlines's bloated rating threatens the integrity of the entire list.

The list has no integrity, stop being a drama queen.

It speaks to a deeper cultural malaise within modern RPG fandom.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

There's also a bunch of Action RPGs and not-quite-RPG-but-maybe-if-you-look-it-from-the-right-angle games like System Shock 2 and Jagged Alliance 2. Why focus on Bloodlines?

 

[Bubbles]

45% of all voters gave points to Bloodlines

 

[Broseph]

45% of all voters gave points to Bloodlines

It's no Realms of Arkania HD, that's for sure.

 

[Telengard]

Changeover in positions from last year's, in case anyone was curious:

THE WINNERS
Dragon Age Origins: +15
Ultima Underworld: the Stygian Abyss: +12
Wizardry Crusaders of the Dark Savant: +11
Wizardry 8: +9
Wizardry 6 Bane of the Cosmic Forge: +6
Darklands: +5
Gothic 2: +5

THE NEWBIES
Dark Souls: +37
Alpha Protocol: +22
Ultima 7 Serpent Isle: +12
The Witcher 2 Assassin of Kings: +10
Quest for Glory 4 Shadows of Darkness: +8
Anachronox: +4
Geneforge: +2
Pools of Darkness: +1

THE LOSERS
Icewind Dale 2: -26
Divine Divinity: -20
Icewind Dale: -16
Baldurs Gate: -10
Realms of Arkania Blades of Destiny: FELL OFF (-10)
The Temple of Elemental Evil: -10
Arx Fatalis: -9
Dark Sun Shattered lands: -9
Diablo: FELL OFF (-9)
Diablo 2: FELL OFF (-8)
Wasteland: -8
Knight of the Chalice: -7
Lands of Lore Throne of Chaos: FELL OFF (-7)
Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic -6
Curse of the Azure Bonds: FELL OFF (-5)
The Elder Scrolls 2 Daggerfall: -5
Pool of Radiance: -5
Ultima 7 The Black Gate: -5

THE SAME OLDS
Fallout 2: 0
Baldurs Gate 2: 0
Arcanum: 0
Vampire Bloodlines: 0
Might & Magic VI Mandate of Heaven: 0
Elder Scrolls Morrowind: +3
Gothic: +3
Realms of Arkania 2 Star Trail: +3
Betrayal at Krondor: +2
Jagged Alliance 2: +2
might & magic 3 Isles of Terra: +2
Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic: +2
System Shock: +2
Deus Ex: +1
Fallout New Vegas: +1
Neverwinter Knights Mask of the Betrayer: +1
Planescape Torment: +1
Ultima 5 Warriors of Destiny: +1
The Witcher: -3
Dungeon Master: FELL OFF (-2)
Might & Magic 7 For Blood & Honor: -2
Fallout 1: -1
Might & Magic World of Xeen: -1
Ultima 4 Quest of the Avatar: -1

 

[laclongquan]

Good going~

 

[DeepOcean]

Hey, the objective was to take out the popamole games of the list. Why the Witcher 1 and 2 are in the top 50? I suspect a potato conspiracy in here.

 

[Severian Silk]

Was it really that hard to create a text list? How is the codex supposed to get search engine hits when everything is in image format?

 

[Multiple Sarcasm]

Given the abundance of questionable taste in the list, I suspect these highly prestigious votings beg a certain join year newfag cut-off.
Some oldfags still need a regular prostate exam sanity check, for sure, but, man... Dragon Age? Son I am disappoint.

 

[MicoSelva]

Dragon Age beats Ultimas 4, 5, 7 and 7 part 2? *scratches head*

This is not the only weird thing. For example Risen (#52) is clearly superior to IceWind Dale (#22) (in before them apples and oranges), but the list is still a huge improvement over previous ones. Kudos to Felipepepe.

 

[Aeschylus]

Good stuff. Nice to see Gothic 2 in the top-10 where it belongs, and that QFG managed to crack the list. Though it does always surprise me how much people around here love Morrowind.

I have to say that it pains me to see some true genre defining classics overshadowed by newer, arguably derivative games.

I don't know that derivative necessarily equates to inferior. Just because something is defining in its genre doesn't mean that everything that comes after it is inherently worse. I would have a hard time arguing that Ultima I is better than 7, for example.

 

[Jaesun]

So... The Holy Trinity™ has finally been upset.

Seriously... Baldur's Gate II better than Arcanum? Really? No.

 

[Aeschylus]

Seriously... Baldur's Gate II better than Arcanum? Really? No.

As with most dichotomies on this list (KotOR I vs II, PST vs. Everything, etc etc) it depends on whether you're looking more for solid atmosphere and writing, or things being more solid from a 'game' perspective. The Codex tends to fall on the side of the former, but not always (Morrowind > Gothic 2, for example).

I also suspect BG2 has a much greater 'critical mass' of people who've played it vs. Arcanum.

 

[tuluse]

So... The Holy Trinity™ has finally been upset.

Seriously... Baldur's Gate II better than Arcanum? Really? No.

This already happened last year: http://www.rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=8869

The only change now is that PS:T beat Fallout in the top 5.

 

[Tigranes]

Best/Worst Cover Art: DISCUSS!

(Worst: Obviously Geneforge or Anachronox...)