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RPGs that fell short of greatness and should be remade

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Deuce Traveler, Nov 29, 2021.

  1. Pink Eye Monk Patron

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    Ravenloft is still one of my top games, but, a reimagining that gets rid of that annoying real time combat in both games. Would be terrific. Also a touch up on some of the Dungeons in Strahd's Possession, like Elven Warrior Crypt. Shit is so annoying to play with the amount of SPINNNERS, HIDDEN SWITCHES, and TELEPORTERS! Nearly stopped playing the game because of that one dungeon alone. Glad I powered through it. As Count Strahd's Castle is a complete treat to explore. Another thing is adding more content to the overworld of Stone Prophet. There's a lot of open space filled with nothing within the Har'Akir desert.
     
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  2. curds Prophet

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    Pretty sure the BG to Nwn TC was completed fairly recently, as in this year, and they've begun work on Bg2.
     
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  3. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    Iirc there's a decent Ultima-something one in Dungeon Siege(??)'s engine. Never checked it out.
     
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  4. ERYFKRAD Barbarian Patron

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    Strap Yourselves In Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    Ultima v and vi, actually.
     
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  5. agris Arcane Patron

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    rusty_shackleford and Blutwurstritter yall are tool-bags, that BG2-in-DAO remake was horrendous. Prosperous. Fan remakes suffer from modderitis to the Nth degree. Not saying there are no good ones, source ports that get to completion tend to be the exception that proves the rule. Those take diligence and a technical know how beyond the average modder’s ken.

    i don’t look out upon the world and see flawed gems that are waiting to be improved upon by fan remakes - which is the same outlook that I have for publisher-backed remakes. Regardless of the origination, they tend to be trash.
     
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  6. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    You realize there's a complete 1:1 fan remake of the IE engine + IE games, right?
    https://gemrb.org/
     
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  7. agris Arcane Patron

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    Yep, which you failed to recognize and instead dogpiled likes on the cancerous bg2-in-dao fan remake. Also the gemrb source port is exactly in line with what I’ve said with source ports being the exception that proves the rule.

    tldr; lame thread, you have no idea what you’re talking about and due to your ego, you chase whatever is flashy in support of your supposition regardless of if it makes sense in a broader context (ie fan remakes being the true hope).
     
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  8. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    I have no idea who you are or what you're even talking about tbh. You seem like some butthurt failed gamedev upset that all gamedevs are subhuman scum.
     
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  9. agris Arcane Patron

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    Hey same here; I have no idea who you are or why I should care about 20k+ of your garbo opinions!

    Cheers, keep chasing your tail.

    edit: also, nope; no connection to game dev!
     
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  10. perfectslumbers Scholar

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    I prefer technical updates, like what Daggerfall Unity is to Daggerfall. (And even that can be worse in some ways, like the extremely fast movement speed making the game feel smaller and faster paced.) Fans are usually better at those than actual devs though. Even very faithful remakes like the Demons Souls one tend to lose something of the original.
     
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  11. Sykar Arcane

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    Pathfinder is easily better than Shadowrun by leaps and bounds. The amount of terrible dumbing down from the original rule set so nothing but a dried up barely standing husk remains is frankly flabbergasting. If it were not for atmosphere the games would have been irredeemable garbage.
     
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  12. ERYFKRAD Barbarian Patron

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    Strap Yourselves In Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    Eh? Only know the nwn one
     
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  13. agris Arcane Patron

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  14. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    "see this one bad fan remake?! It means they're shit!"
    yea I can point to 100 that aren't shit you absolute tard, there's like 3 "professional" remakes that don't purposely butcher the source material lol
     
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  15. agris Arcane Patron

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    better get to enumerating, autismo. Feel free to stop at 97, no need to beat a dead horse.
     
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  16. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    https://osgameclones.com/

    SCUMMVM alone supports about 100 games btw
     
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  17. RoksCQ Novice

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    The best thing Everquest did and it's developers should serve as rolemodels for is -- they allowed emergent gameplay to shape the game itself, and designed future expacs and so on around the way players strategized. Like how feign death pulling was something that just happened to work and became a main function, or kiting (brad admitted he didnt think about the sow / snare / dot / nuke combo working the way it did.)
    Bravo to the Late Brad and team for recognizing emergent gameplay is what makes a sandbox mo brilliant.
     
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  18. Nikanuur Learned Patron

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    Bah, your choice of girl-friends "just fails to be engaging". Stonekeep was little too much on the next-gen note when it came up, but Grimrock, EoB, Lands of Lore and Stonekeep drink gallons of mead in Valhalla together every day. AND they had had myriads of puns while watching your sex life the last time I paid them a visit :shittydog:
     
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  19. Nifft Batuff Liturgist

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    I would like a remake of Cyberpunk 2077.
     
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  20. anvi Prophet Village Idiot

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    Yep! I think it also had more content than anyone expected, even the directors. There's a good video series with the original developers. The guy who made the spells was left to do whatever he wanted! So we could have got a game with hardly any magic, or just some basic nukes and heals. Instead the database had something like 1000 spells. And he made it so the spells had interesting interactions, like damage shields that harm attackers, or stealing armor class, memory wipe, area stuns, area rains that players can kill themselves with, etc.

    MMOs suck once the mystery is gone and EQ having so much stuff and things for people to figure out, kept that mystery really strong! It helped the internet being new. MMOs these days have no mystery even on release, there are walkthroughs online from all the alpha/beta testers. :\
     
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  21. Blutwurstritter Educated

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    I don't see what your problem is, I take the good and leave the bad. ToEE's has great combat and Icewind Dale is filled with combat, sounds like a good idea on paper to me. And more content for ToEE is always welcome irregardless of what it is based of. If you hadn't mentioned the BG2 remake I wouldn't even have known about it and that's how much I care about most of those projects.
     
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  22. Lagi Savant

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    This!!
    I want to love this game so much, but the moment Serpent in the Staglands force me to kill all the crop goblins outside the temple, i just lose any interest.
     
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  23. Gaznak Educated

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    Thanks to this thread, I bethought I wanted to play this gem for a long time.

    BTW, why are names like Ironfist or Bracada on the screenshots??
     
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  24. KateMicucci Savant

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    Tyranny, Witcher 1 and Darklands are the best suggestions itt.
     
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  25. agris Arcane Patron

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    *pulls out a quest compass*

    See that fan remake over there? You can download it. And play it, but it'll likely be trash.

    See that professionally developed remake over there? You can download it, and play it. But it'll likely be trash.

    Remakes aren't the answer, new games made by people whose lives do not revolve around video games are the answer. All our classics were made by people with diverse interests and backgrounds, many times historical and technical, and it made the fruits of their labors into the unique games that we cherish today. You don't remake that, you take that philosophy and push forward.

    Instead, we have games made by people who only experience insular nerd-culture. They went to school for "game developers", or want to be writers and see games as a foot in the door. These people are your present day Obsidian, inXile, whatever. They produce middling nothing. We shouldn't be pining for remakes, that's pathetic. We should be asking for better games made by better people.
     
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