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RPGs with shapeshifting as a prominent mechanic

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by V_K, Jun 29, 2019.

  1. V_K Arcane

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    What are those? The more prominent the better. Ideally, it'd be useful for both combat and non-combat situations and be well integrated into the character system.
    I can only think of LoL2, which doesn't make a very strong case for shapeshifting.
    There were also shapeshifting scrolls in Gothic games, but outside of a couple of scripted encounters (shifting into a roach to go under a fence) I don't remember them being terribly useful.

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    Prey (your favorite turn-into-coffee-cup simulator);
    NWN: Druid class;
    Serpent in the Staglands (if only it were a better game).
    Nethack: Doppelganger class.
     
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  2. octavius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Shadowcaster, but I'm not sure if it qualifies as an RPG.
     
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  3. V_K Arcane

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    Yeah, in my book it doesn't - it's more of an action-adventure.
     
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  4. V_K Arcane

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    In the same vein, I guess Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain should be mentioned for its different vampiric forms. But still not very RPG-ish.
     
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  5. Shadenuat Arcane

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    wasn't there that weird game where you could become a frog and
    oh right.

    honestly shapeshifting is universally used in action and arcade games. Castlevania comes to mind first and every Castlevania-like ever
     
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  6. Bonerbill Savant

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    Well in Neverwinter Nights you can shapeshift into a kobold rogue that can do thief stuff out of combat. Does that count?
     
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  7. vota DC Augur

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    Diablo 2? But no effect outside combat.
    Bloodlines?
     
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  8. buffalo bill Arcane

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    Serpent in the Staglands has some cool non-combat shapeshifting stuff.
     
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  9. luj1 You're all shills Vatnik

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    Playing Shifter in NwN is really specific when it comes to gameplay
     
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  10. lukaszek the determinator Patron

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    deterministic system > RNG
     
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  11. Ranselknulf Arcane Patron

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    Age of Empires >>> WOLOLOLOLOLO

    Warcraft >> turning people to sheep

    Werewolf the Apocalypse >>> It's a pnp game but it has great shapeshifting mechanics

    Any D&D game with druids?

    Lots of MMORPGS

    Mortal Kombat >> Fatalities
     
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  12. Thal Augur

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    Nethack SLASH'EM allows you to play Doppelganger, which means you can polymorph into most monsters and access their special abilities.
     
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  13. kintake Learned

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    Fade portion of Dragon Age: Origins and Wonder Boy 3 are the only games I can think of off the top of my head.
     
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  14. V_K Arcane

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    Really? I've only played Simon's Quest, and I don't remember any shapeshifting there.
     
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  15. Shadenuat Arcane

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    I mean when they added rpg elements i.e. Symphony of the Night
     
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  16. V_K Arcane

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    Simon's Quest actually had some RPG elements, though not to Symphony's extent.
     
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    Dragon Age Origins could let you turn into a spider, bear, etc. Wasn't all that interesting a change though. Lots of older RPGs have polymorph which is similar. Nothing will beat the WoW Druid though.
     
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    Doesn't Original Sin 2 have some mask that let you steal the bodies of dead people?
     
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  19. Zed Duke of Banville Dungeon Master Patron

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    Does lycanthropy count as shapeshifting? If so, you can include both Daggerfall and Morrowind, among other RPGs, though it wasn't exactly prominent except in the confines of Morrowind's Bloodmoon expansion.
     
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  20. PsychoFox Educated

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    SpellForce 3 has a druid class that can turn into wolves, bears and spiders (maybe even more creatures). I though the game was really mediocre though.
     
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  21. Alexander DeLarge Cipher

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    Project Gorgon has a druid class that shapeshifts and each of the animals you play as have some serious gameplay/roleplaying implications.


    Shame no one talks about it on here. It's pretty much tailor made for everyone here.
     
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  22. Lacrymas Arcane

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    Outside of MMOs where druids are designed to shapeshift constantly, there really aren't standout examples. I've wondered this myself because Druid is usually one of my go-to classes, but their shapeshifting is always lame and disappointing. I guess there could be some roguelikes where a class is designed around shapeshifting. I know Tales of Maj'Eyal isn't one of them. It has the Possessor class, which can ...possess the corpse of enemies, so it's kinda like that I guess. You have to buy ToME to get access to Possessors, it's the bonus/donator class, but I recommend doing it anyway, it's not expensive and it's worth supporting the developer. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup has transmutation magic. I'm not that familiar with any other roguelikes. Maybe ADOM is worth checking out for that.

    NWN1 Shifter is the worst class in the game and it requires a steel resolve and solid build to play it. It gets good only at epic levels when you get undead shape. It's fun and interesting to play, though.
     
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  23. Hobo Elf Arcane

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    Summoner 2 for the PS2 and Gamecube is the only one I can think of where shapeshifting is on the forefront of the game. Ignore the name, they ditched the monster summoning from the first game and changed it so that your main character would shapeshift into different monsters instead.
     
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  24. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    you may not like it, but this is what peak HP looks like:
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  25. Puukko Arcane

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    Not particularly prominent but worth mentioning:
    Gladius (LucasArts SRPG for PS2/XB/GC) has Gungnirs as well as one main character who transform into bears, wolves and big cats.
    Legend of Grimrock 2 has a potion that allows you to turn into a bear (see avatar) which I remember being actually really useful.

    And well, WoW of course.
     
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