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Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio (Yakuza, Judgment, Binary Domain + more!) Discussion Thread

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Pretty sure the creator has said he didn't want the games to be GTA, and kept the deaths to a minimum in line with that philosophy.

Yeah, in Japan you might end up 20-30 years in prison for discharging a firearm in an urban environment without even hitting someone.

Not really, but then the real Yakuza didn't get into fights at the drop of a hat and assassinations were generally far more subtle than in the games.
 

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It's been said that Yakuza is a series about a bunch of criminals and societal outcasts with hearts of gold. I say it's about a bunch of valiant, morally perfect, invincible demigods who LARP as delinquents.

If SEGA had some balls Saejima would have been an outright killer. That's what made his story so incredibly compelling on my first playthrough. Then in Yakuza 5 he's identical to Kiryu but with a slightly more old-school vibe and without the other aspects that make Kiryu a good character.
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If SEGA had some balls Saejima would have been an outright killer. That's what made his story so incredibly compelling on my first playthrough. Then in Yakuza 5 he's identical to Kiryu but with a slightly more old-school vibe and without the other aspects that make Kiryu a good character.

Eh, retconning like that is nothing new for the series. Consider Majima in Yakuza 1 vs how he is depicted elsewhere in the series. His character was changed in line with his popularity later.
 

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Eh, not a big deal. Everyone moves on at some point. Plus it's not like Nagoshi and Sato were the only ones pulling the weight, Yokoyama has been on board since the beginning and in fact is the creator of Kiryu and Haruka and all the other characters as we know them.
And let's not forget Ryosuke Horii.
 

LarryTyphoid

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Eh, retconning like that is nothing new for the series. Consider Majima in Yakuza 1 vs how he is depicted elsewhere in the series. His character was changed in line with his popularity later.
In Y2, Majima is the same as he was in Y1, just more slapstick-y and less sinister because he's your ally in that game while in Y1 he was working for the antagonists. Same thing for Y3. In Y4, all slapstick and insanity is removed and Majima exists to explain backstory and create false intrigue. In Y5 he exists entirely to create false intrigue. Clearly the Y1-3 versions of the character are why people like him and people only like him in 4-6 by the virtue of those earlier games. So changing his character in line with his popularity was unnecessary and retarded. Crazy Majima is the true Majima!

Even in Y0 he clearly has fits where he goes off the chain and acts like Y1 Majima, and of course those are the most memorable parts of his character in that game. Y0 is truer to Majima's character than 4-6 which is why he has enjoyed continued popularity after Y0's newcomer boom in the west. If Y6 was the first game a lot of people played then nobody would give a fuck about boring gay Majima.
 

ERYFKRAD

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Strap Yourselves In Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker
Finally finished. Would have finished it faster but subquests.
I get the impression that most people dislike the Okinawa sections but I didn't mind the kids, they were not obnoxious brats or anything.
Yoshitaka went down a lot easier than I thought he would.
Hated the chases but then learnt to be smart about them and that was that.

Can't wait to wreck people as Saejima though.
 

Rean

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LarryTyphoid

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You really have to follow some self-imposed restrictions to get any challenge out of these games because the economy is always busted. The only exception is Mr. Shakedown in Y0 who'll fuck you up regardless of how many healing items you've got (unless you look up a guide and learn about the slime gun, unfortunately). There are also the Amon fights, but those can mostly be cheesed, and most people aren't spastic enough to unlock those anyway.
I never played the Fist of the North Star game since it isn't on PC, but I hear that game's max difficulty lets bosses one-hit you, so maybe that one's hard. I understand why they don't do one-hit KOs for the mainline boss fights - those little cinematics of Kiryu and the boss punching each other would be pretty retarded if Kiryu instantly died in gameplay.
 

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Ok, did they drop the difficulty in 4 or are Akiyama and Saejima pretty darn powerful?
Yes it's a lot easier. On PS3 and PS4 Yakuza 4 was also a lot easier to platinum than 3 as well. 3 was a fucking nightmare till you learn you can just shoulder bash Lau Ka Long and he can't block shit when shoulder bashed.

And also never forget that Yakuza 0 is for faggots and wannabes. Yakuza 0 is also responsible for ruining the Yakuza franchise by making it go mainstream and have a lot of fake posers play it as their only Yakuza game and think they know everything about the Yakuza franchise and then those same cunts want to complain that everything is decline since Yakuza 0. I hope they all die horrible deaths
 
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LarryTyphoid

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And also never forget that Yakuza 0 is for faggots and wannabes. Yakuza 0 is also responsible for ruining the Yakuza franchise by making it go mainstream and have a lot of fake posers play it as their only Yakuza game and think they know everything about the Yakuza franchise and then those same cunts want to complain that everything is decline since Yakuza 0. I hope they all die horrible deaths
Yakuza 0 is the first game to have a good story since Yakuza 2. Y3-5s' stories are filth. 0's only problem is the tryhard reddit-tier localization ("bro shitballs!!!")
 

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OK, yakuza 4, kiryu done, epilogue is on.
And guess what? Even main story shitted the bed.

OK let's do subquest:
Dumbass clown saejima training and mining done, mining was stupid, liked the MMA.
Not gonna touch cabaret or grind kiryu endless gangbangs

So...

Policedude.

Time to help the best girl policewoman, time to GG.

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WHAT THE FUCK

HOW CAN THIS GAME BULLSHIT THE STORY SO DAMN HARD

I DON'T EVEN GET A KISS FROM THE GIRL????!!!! WAT, EVEN GODKING OF CLOWNS SAEJIMA GOT SOME.

Plz moneydude, you are my very last hope now.
 

LarryTyphoid

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Yeah, in Japan you might end up 20-30 years in prison for discharging a firearm in an urban environment without even hitting someone.

It's also the reason Yakuza has a meme where everything is rubber. Like that one time fired a rubber missile at a rubber helicopter which caused a rubber explosion and the pilot bailed out and landed in a truck full of pillows. Kazuma Kiryu has never killed anyone. Including the time he became Kenshiro, because his victim was already dead.
I don't get why Kiryu isn't allowed to kill anyone, anyway. It's not like it's a Japanese thing. Kids watched Fist of the North Star and Kenshiro practically commits genocide in that show
 

Rean

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You need to keep your enemy alive so you can beat him up repeatedly.
 

Nirvash

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Aaaaand yakuza 4 done.

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The final chapter was a absolute mess, 75% nonsense fights.
But yeah, got to kick dumbass daigo ass so i give a 6/10 just for that.

I really liked the start of the game, moneydude got charisma, saejima was awesome before becoming the god emperor of clowns, policedude was ok but got ruined by the story shitting the bed HARD, kiryu same old shit. 7/10

Liked the different styles of combat, but game was also pretty easy. 7/10
Same old minigames, i wanted the pachinko 6/10

Bit better than yakuza 3.
 

Zed Duke of Banville

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The final chapter was a absolute mess, 75% nonsense fights.
But yeah, got to kick dumbass daigo ass so i give a 6/10 just for that.

I really liked the start of the game, moneydude got charisma, saejima was awesome before becoming the god emperor of clowns, policedude was ok but got ruined by the story shitting the bed HARD, kiryu same old shit. 7/10
You should enjoy the final chapters of Yakuza 5, once you get around to it. :M
 

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It’s absolutely crazy how bloated Yakuza 5 was, the main story alone is like twice as long as any other game in the series and there’s parts where it just drags. I also feel like a lot of people probably cringed at the Haruka sections, but at that point I felt it was a welcome break from the tedium that was setting in. With all that being said, I still think it was a better game than 4 overall.
 

LarryTyphoid

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Haruka sections would've been okay if it wasn't baby's first rhythm game. Doesn't even get harder with extra difficulty. The fact that every single dancing segment gives you an "easy" option is frankly insulting. You can even find an Ulala figure in one of the claw machines, which just made me want to go play Space Channel 5, an actually challenging rhythm game, rather than this baby faggot shit.

It even extends to Haruka's other minigames. That handshaking shit is for actual apes. And every single time you do one, you're prompted to look at the tutorial again. It's like something I'd put in a game as a joke, and they did it for real.
 

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