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Shadowrun Shadowrun: Hong Kong - Extended Edition

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Ulminati, Aug 20, 2015.

  1. Mychkine Educated

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    Racter was a refreshing take on the mad scientist indeed. I like the comparaison to Frankenstein or Herbert Wert. The doctor Moreau could also fit the trope. Having such a character as a protagonist, with a sympathetic point of view is unusual. The classical sci-fi and fantasy litterature mad scientist is an underexploited archetype in video games. The fact that I liked the character design (writing, and gameplay-wise) is but the icing on the cake.
     
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  2. SwiftCrack Arcane

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    Sure, within SR:HK Racter is elevated because the rest is mediocre. But on his own he stands out as well.
     
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  3. SCO Arcane In My Safe Space

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    Don't really care for Racter. I mean yes, it's a unusual trope in games, the sociopath, but not mad and affable logical positivist (the only interesting twist is that he's not doing it only because he's smart, but because he took 'scientific' measures for it, by storing his aggression elsewhere - even that is Dr. Jekyll all over), but i could see the arc coming from a mile away (especially with that portrait, goddamn). Games are just shit and make you think standard genre tropes are good characterization because you haven't seen them in years. He was however, a nice setting infodump. BTW, learn to recognize those types in real life and you'll be happier.

    I liked gaichu better, i guess it's my weeaboo side showing (although the bioware-ish 'now at the very moment of my carefully planned revenge, i only need PC-sempai to disagree with me to change my mind' annoyed me).
     
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  4. Saduj Arcane

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    Not only would that have added flavor to the main campaign but it would have been a cool setup for the expansion with Auntie/Yellow Lotus as the antagonists. In reality, someone in Kindly's position would most likely be a semi-delusional sociopath who would be convinced that she's doing you a favor as she completely screws you over. Considering the lengths she goes to in order to you help you in game, you would never stop "owing" her.

    I kept hoping that there would be some sort of confrontation with Auntie before the game ends but HBS chose to play up to the myth of the tough but fair organized crime figure who protects the local underclass from the corrupt powers that be.
     
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  5. Stormcrowfleet Arcane

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    I don't see why people hates on tropes anyway. Novelty is not always welcomed when its shit. I much prefer a well-done trope (or mythological motif) than a shitty ''new'' and ''shiny'' world/story like half of the shit-games out there like POE.
     
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  6. Gozma Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    I was surprised by Racter for the meta reason that my initial read on him was that he was a tacked on character without significant backstory, since you had to load a different map to talk to him and he seemed like he was mostly filling a game-mechanical party niche as "The Rigger". I also missed Gaichu for a very long time because I just didn't do that mission so that ladder just lead to Racter's pocket dimension. Then I kept talking to him and it got weirder and weirder.
     
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  7. BeholderX Self-Ejected

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  8. upwardlymobile forum posting consultant Patron

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    PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015
    sup jaesun
     
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  9. Mustawd Arcane

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    someone give this man a brofist FFS
     
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  10. WhiteGuts Arcane

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    Racter goes "wonderful" or similar when he meets the Queen. And I saw that coming fucking miles away. I knew he'd have that exact same reaction at that exact moment. I just sighed and went along with it.

    Just like his unending love for transhumanism and hate of any kind of spiritualism. He's so damn predictable.
     
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  11. Lord Andre Arcane

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    Behead all those who insult Racter !
    :russia:
     
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  12. PeachPlumage Cipher

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    I am putting my playthrough of Hong Kong on hold. I think I feel a slight burn out on the Shadowrun:Returns formula at this point.
     
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  13. Gnidrologist CONDUCTOR

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    To much text. Redding is teh hard. srsly
     
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  14. Jason Liang Arcane

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    I've started a third playthrough. 3.06 seems to have upped the difficulty on hard, or maybe it's because I'm going mage this time.

    Screenshots of my character from 2nd playthrough, right before City of Darkness:

    [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]As you can see, taking the Rifle route (weapon progression AK-97, Grenade Launcher, Monofilament Whip, Prototype Laser, Steyr) I had enough Nuyen to fully cyber up, and buy a Guardian S Drone, with enough Nuyen to buy a 2nd S Drone and 8 Armor clothing as well, and if I sold some of my stashed weapons I'd also have enough for Orthoskin. So there is plenty of Nuyen to get top gear, especially if you go Rifles.
     
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  15. Ninjerk Arcane

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    :codexisforindividualswithgenderidentityissues:
     
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  16. SwiftCrack Arcane

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    Where are your skin, brain, etc. slots?
     
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  17. Damn, I was playing cybered out decker and had barely enough.
     
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  18. Jason Liang Arcane

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    I ended up getting the Orthoskin. You can't reduce essence below 1 so the only way to install like the bio brain (+1 intellect) would mean first replacing auto-load arm with say another S-K skillwire. As you can see I still had 6.5k nuyen to spend, and I also had all the unique weapons in the stash.
     
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  19. SwiftCrack Arcane

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    Oh, so empty slots don't show in that screen? I didn't know that.
     
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  20. Tommy Wiseau Arcane

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    When will we get the update that introduces the Gobbet romance? Or better yet, the Racter one? I feel a burning need to be held in stronk Russian arms.
     
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  21. lukaszek the determinator

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    deterministic system > RNG
     
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  22. WhiteGuts Arcane

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    Stop right there you degenerate fuck.

    I think I liked Gobbet the most. She was funny and easy going. Gaichu schtick kinda gets stale after a while but I still favored him over Racter. Duncan and Is0bel didn't even pass the threshold of interestingness.
     
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  23. lukaszek the determinator

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    deterministic system > RNG
     
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  24. Calapine Educated Patron

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    You forgot:

    - Koshei being upgraded into a pleasure-bot...
     
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  25. supervoid Arcane

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    :roll:
     
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