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Incline Skyrim is getting The Most Definitive Re-re-re-release once again at 11.11.2021

Discussion in 'Bethesda Game Studios' started by Hafnar the Jester, Aug 22, 2021.

  1. Ravielsk Scholar

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    Survival mode was always a iffy proposition for Skyrim because in game a day lasts only around 1 hour of real time. So there is never really any good configuration for it that would not be broken. Either you make it irrelevant by asking the player to eat only every 8-12 hours in realtime( so you let the player survive a whole week without a drop of food or water) or you turn it into a dumb annoyance by doing the same but in "Skyrim hours" thus making the player stop every few steps to eat some shit. The only viable solution to this would be to change the length of the ingame day into something more reasonable and work from there.

    But something tells me that was never an option in the first place.
     
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  2. deuxhero Arcane

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    Nope., it's a simple console command or tiny mod to change timescale.
     
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  3. Ravielsk Scholar

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    Ok, so its just yet again laziness and incompetence.
     
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  4. Manjuice Nutella Arcane

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    The joke is that you assume they "sell" it, but instead it's discounted -100% permanently, so they get a "a-ha!!" moment.

    Whether or not that joke is amusing in any way, or just the lamest kind of dad joke in history, is another matter entirely.
     
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  5. Manjuice Nutella Arcane

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    Well there's also this, I believe, the most autistic thing I've seen in the industry except for Grimoire production:

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  6. Archwizard Hank Learned

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    Under what circumstances, in which universe, under whose authority and in which lifetime am I ever going to need to know the half-life of real and fictional substances as they decay in my fictional body

    The only half-life I want within a planet's orbit of my video games hasn't had a good sequel since 2007
    fuck
     
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  7. deuxhero Arcane

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    1: You mean 2001.
    2: It's really just a fancy term for how long its effects last and how long it is before you can use another dose without (extra) penalty.

    Really, the only dietary values that need tracking are calories, protein, vitamin c, and maybe water: Protein and Vitamin C to encourage diet variety (no subsisting entirely on one substance like potatoes or random game meat), while water is mostly for raw fruit and soups/stews supplementing potables. The sheer number of calories a video game character burns (marching places, fighting, leaping) means everything else should easily be satisfied with the amount of food they need to eat.
     
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  8. Archwizard Hank Learned

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    But... Well... Hm...
    Y'know what, I don't actually have any counter to this. Fuck it, you're right, I can't justify a game that doesn't have a goddamn conclusion.

    Also regarding survival systems, call me a filthy casual but the food mechanic in the Ultima series always felt to me like it was all you needed - Just a number that goes down as you walk. Realistic? Fuck no. Easy to understand? Yes. I'm not sure if the fact that SkyRimjob's default survival mode hasn't really seemingly progressed far beyond this speaks more to the ingenuity of the system as it's designed on paper or to the lack of imagination in the game development world.
     
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  9. deuxhero Arcane

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    Oh I don't disagree in the slightest that video games (especially those not built around it) has almost always just been annoying busywork rather than adding anything of value, just that there's absolutely no reason to go beyond those four values if one wanted to put such a system in.
     
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  10. Fedora Master Arcane Patron Edgy

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    Skyrim is shit and its modders are retarded troglodytes, news at 11
     
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  11. ERYFKRAD Barbarian Patron

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    Strap Yourselves In Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    What do you put on your spacebar then?
     
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  12. Yoomazir Educated

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    Can you disable these new "features", like survival mode?
     
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  13. mkultra Augur

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    yeah, i loaded a save and it asked if i wanted it, turned it on and i was constantly nagged about being cold or hungry, wet, etc (yes, like every minute).
     
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  14. BruceVC Augur

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    Im definitely going to buy the Anniversary edition because I already own Skyrim SE which means I only pay $20 !!!

    And as Fluent pointed out in another thread it has 500 creation club Mods and similar things so its well worth the money :salute:
     
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  15. FriendlyMerchant Learned

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    There's always the solution of playing a survival mode like you would IRL; kill animal, eat heart and liver first, then the muscle meat if you're still hungry. The liver is where the animal stores the most of vitamins and minerals. Just be careful not to die of Vitamin A poisoning.
     
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  16. Alexander DeLarge Cipher

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    I'm glad The Frozen North exists. I just want the game to acknowledge it takes place in a frozen hellscape and this mod takes care of that. Hopefully OpenMW gets something like it for Skyrim Home of the Nords.
    Frostbite is nice too.
    https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/27693
     
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  17. FriendlyMerchant Learned

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    But the natives of Skyrim don't wear clothes...

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  18. Daedalos Arcane The Real Fanboy

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    Never played or had any interest in this fantasy garbag from tODD and his lackeys.

    Why am I then posting in this thread you say?

    Because hang the fantasy fags
     
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  19. Manjuice Nutella Arcane

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    You chose a good forum for yourself then.
     
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  20. Funposter Magister

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    Ashfall should work fine once OpenMW gets lua support (supposedly in the next version), but it's definitely more LARPy than you want since it's more in the vein of Frostfall. Still, could work as a nice starting point if Merlord ever wanted to (or allowed someone else to) make a lite version.
     
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  21. Nikanuur Learned Patron

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    Khajiit has wares if you have coin.
     
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  22. Nikanuur Learned Patron

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    Sorry to be so blunt, but one's son tragedy shouldn't make the man impose his feelings towards all humanity.
     
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  23. Gargaune Magister

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    That's the problem with most of these "survival modes", mods and official alike, they're way too granular and fiddly. You're bombarded with status effects every couple of minutes in real-time, so you constantly have to break flow to go inventory diving, what with the myriad different consumables and their slightly different effects. It's altogether unsuitable for an Action-RPG.

    The one game that really struck the right balance was STALKER, but odds are nobody at Bethesda's every played that.

    Found DiCaprio's Codex account.
     
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  24. mkultra Augur

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    You mean Solstheim...
    But clothes are overrated, even in the winter (Sweden). If it's -20 then sure... 0C, no problem, i'd walk around in a T-shirt, shorts, but people look at you weirdly, or like you are "bragging" ;)
     
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  25. Butter Arcane

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    Flex on the new Europeans every chance you get.
     
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