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So... Battlefield Series.. Not what I expected..

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by Indy Sandbag Trick, Oct 15, 2011.

  1. Actually Hoopy they had the $15 map pack as a preorder bonus.
     
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  2. hoopy Savant

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    That doesn't count either. Everyone can get the map pack whether they pre-order or not.
     
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  3. MetalCraze Arcane

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    Hey Pooco, do you have Steam installed? Have you been invited into our prestigious Codexian MP group?
     
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  4. poocolator Erudite

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    I haven't got Steam installed but I can do so when I get some time.
    I'll PM you when I get around to it. What games do you guys of the vaunted Codexian MP Guild play?
     
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  5. MetalCraze Arcane

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    Anything that gathers enough people.

    Last time it was some random L4D2, KF, Payday matches and organized IWD1 gatherings, but chzr is away and he's our only tank so it's on indefinite pause.
    I think right now dudes also try to play SWAT4 and Age of Empires but I don't participate in them so I dunno for sure.
     
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  6. AlaCarcuss Arbiter

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    Yeah, sorry for the retard comment - when I posted that last night I had a massive toothache and was self medicating with bourbon so wasn't really in a good frame of mind. Fuck, now I have a toothache and a hangover.

    Anyway, you really made my point for me. You're complaing about getting bad framerates from a new game on a what - 4 year old video card?

    Absolutely - It's a much better game on PC.

    Or get both as they're not really comparable. One is a combat simulator, the other is just balls out fun with few nods to realism.
     
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  7. MetalCraze Arcane

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    FYI BF3 has generic console graphics.
    This time it's a shit optimization.
     
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  8. MasterSmithFandango Arcane

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    Never played ARMA2 or really any shooter since Battlefield 1942 way back in the day... I may pick one (or both) up for PC. Hopefully this piece of shit will run it well.
     
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  9. hoopy Savant

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    Is there to some trick to knifing? It almost never works, and just now I had to stab a guy four times at point blank range before he died. And even then the game didn't actually register the kill. After that I stabbed another guy at point blank range and again it had no effect. Other people seem to have no problems knifing me though.

    Also fuck aerial vehicles. They are almost uncontrollable even with a 360 pad. I've never hit anything with them, and I usually die quickly anyway because of missile lockons that are impossible to defend against without flares. And how do you get flares? By getting kills with aerial vehicles. But you can't do that because they are impossible to control and you'll get shot down almost immediately after takeoff. I assume everyone else is using flight sticks or something because I can't fathom how they're able to get kills otherwise.
     
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  10. JrK Prophet

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    You need to knife from the side/behind to get the kill animation. On prone guys/mortar guys there's a smaller sweet spot. If you don't have the kill animation knife only does 33 damage.

    "impossible to control aerial vehicles" LOL l2p.
     
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  11. hoopy Savant

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    Yes, surely it must be my fault that the controls for aerial vehicles are borderline unplayable. It's not like the developers are responsible for them or anything! They only made the game.
     
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  12. Spectacle Arcane Patron

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    There are flight training servers, go to one of those and get used to controlling the planes. Once you can fly and aim it's not that hard to get enough points for the basic unlocks.
     
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  13. hoopy Savant

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    There is no getting used to it because the controls are completely, hopelessly fucked.

    DICE should go play some Saints Row 2, which has very smooth and intuitive controls for helis and planes.
     
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  14. JrK Prophet

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    Sure the air vehicles must be at fault, since you cannot control them even though there are plenty who can. Makes sense sir I agree. :salute:

    Seriously, just admit that you're not that good and get to practice if you want to fly.
     
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  15. hoopy Savant

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    Again: the controls are shit. That is not the player's fault any more than Skyrim's shitty UI is the player's fault.
     
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  16. OuterSpace Scholar

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    I think the flying difficulty is intentionally there to keep fly-boys from dominating the game. That being said, the controls aren't horrible, there's just a learning curve.
     
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  17. Spectacle Arcane Patron

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    Brotip: use mouse and keyboard to fly the helicopters.
     
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  18. Quilty Magister

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    Type "fast vehicle respawn" or just "vehicles" in the browser and jump in one of the empty-ish servers that have instantly respawning vehicles. Start with helis because they can be easier to learn that jets (at least that's how it was in my case). You can take your sweet time learning to hover, accelerate, decelerate, land etc without the pressure of a battle. In my opinion, the way vehicles handle and the fact that they require a certain amount of skill is an improvement over the past iterations of the game.
     
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  19. JrK Prophet

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    BF2's heli's and jets were definitely harder to control, so that's total bull mate.
     
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  20. Quilty Magister

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    I suppose the popamolishness of Bad Company 2 may have blurred my memory.

    I have to add that flying a heli with a gunner you can speak to is oodles of fun. I've never tried this before, due to the :foreveralone: syndrome, but now that I'm flying with a buddy of mine and trying different loadouts (flares, jammer, extinguisher, guided rockets etc, there's a lot to choose from) the matches are actually much more fun.
     
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  21. JrK Prophet

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    Well even the choppers of BC2 were easier to fly than BF2 with their automatic hovering nonsense, but they were awful in how slow they could turn. It was easy to shoot the BC2 choppers down. Flying in BF2 requires more skill to not crash, but it doesn't limit you as much as BC2 with their bus-like handling so in BF2 there's a higher skill ceiling. If you pushed the wrong button in BF2 you'd stall and crash, while in BF3 and BC2 you could pretty much leave the controls alone and not crash (even jets keep flying no throttle required).

    In BF3 the russian chopper has the same awful bus-like slowness as in BC2, but the Us chopper is actually pretty awesome and nimble. And you do require those stupid unlocks before you can be decent (flares, guided rockets, guidedmissile/tvmissile).
     
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  22. deus101 Never LET ME into a tattoo parlor!

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    Ah man....I just got nostalgic about Desert Combat...

    There you had awsome chopper controls, you had to have a joystick to fly properly and even then it took me a month to be able to fly straight AND land.

    Damnit...I miss my CLAN :( those British wankers.
     
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  23. Destroid Arcane

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    That damn DC helicopter was hard to get the hang of, but you could fly it with a mouse.
     
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  24. Steve Savant

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    Not unless you were exclusively flying the F-35, BF3 has probably the easiest flight controls in any game ever.
     
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  25. hoopy Savant

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    Easier than Saints Row 2? Absolutely not.
     
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