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KickStarter Solasta: Crown of the Magister - 5E OGL turn-based RPG with verticality - now on Early Access

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Safav Hamon, Nov 26, 2018.

  1. deuxhero Arcane

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    Having a non-magic class in a world where magic is real, proven and can be deliberately obtained by anyone who works for it with no drawbacks (Which is virtually all D&D settings. Dark Sun being the main exception) is essentially the same as having a Luddite class in a sci-fi game.
     
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  2. Lawntoilet Cipher Patron

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    So why are you singling out 5e for that and defending 3.PF, which is exactly the same in this regard? Actually it's worse, because most martial classes can get magic without even multiclassing in 5e.
     
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  3. Bastardchops Scholar

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    Sounds promising.
     
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  4. deuxhero Arcane

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    I'm not. I'm taking disagreement with most classes having magic being "part of the decline".
     
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  5. Lawntoilet Cipher Patron

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    My mistake.
    I agree. As long as there is still room for an archetype that just swings a sword it's a non-issue.
     
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  6. IncendiaryDevice Self-Ejected Village Idiot

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    I look forward to this game arriving one day.
     
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  7. mondblut Arcane

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    I've read that "XCOM inspiration" refers to the grid having various heights whereas BG is "too flat" though.
     
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  8. Darth Canoli Magister

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    I'm not sure how relevant are those numbers and if you can even draw any conclusion other than devs like 5E.

    The interesting data would be how much time those players spend in total playing every category and even then, you would have to rapport it to the number of games involved in each category.

    It's not like the market were overflowed and you really would have to pick which games to play, it's actually the opposite, the offer is so scarce people replay the good old clasics over and over again.
     
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  9. Reinhardt Arcane

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    What is this "wizard duels" thing people keep talking about? It's when Keldorn uses dispel magic and you gang rape enemy wizard with your melee party?
     
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  10. Roguey Codex Staff Sawyerite

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    Around these parts, people like having one or two high maintenance characters and a bunch of low maintenance characters as support.
     
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  11. Mortmal Arcane

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    Safav Hamon as best news jew of the year. As its definitively good news, its even redeeming all his POE shilling .I have a very good feeling from this as they are professionals who already worked on endless space. That means turn based and gorgeous, art done by real french artists who went to art school.
    But there's still one thing that worry me a lot, it is the partnership with the community... You can only make a good game when you have a clear vision and strong direction. Dont ask the community , dont listen to their usual bullshit, the most vocal ones will only try to force LGTB romances in.
     
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  12. SlumLord Unwanted Edgy

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    Rulesets can be tweaked, that's not the biggest issue.

    I'm more afraid of Micro$oft pumping the project with money and bloat.

    I watched the presentation Tim gave where he talks about simplifying player-game interaction (among other things). Seems like he's trying to reinvent the wheel, instead of making a good game. Why the fuck is it so hard to get devs to understand that some things take precedence over others? You can dick around with fancy bells and whistles after you've made a fun and entertaining product that delivers a good amount of tactical combat and gripping narrative. There's a reason every other industry except gaming understands that iteration is best done in baby steps, and only after your company has a string of successful products behind it.

    ON TOPIC: The new studio's website is, indeed, quite terrible. Looks like they're still shopping for a publisher.
     
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  13. ArchAngel Arcane

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    Some of us started before 3e and we found 3e to have lots of problems. While it solved many of the problems of AD&D, it also introduced new ones. 5e is a nice mix of 3e and AD&D and even brings some good ideas from 4e.
    Only TRUE 3e munchkins don't like 5e. But nobody cares because those got kicked out of all 3e groups anyways. All they got left is complaining on the internet.
     
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  14. ArchAngel Arcane

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    What are you talking about?! Do even know what Roll20 is?
     
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  15. ProphetSword Arcane Developer

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    D&D 5e has been a #1 best seller since it launched. On Amazon’s list of game books, the three core books are in the top three positions and 5e holds 5 of the top 10 spots. The other books are Pokémon and Fallout 76 player guides...there’s not another RPG close to touching 5e at the moment.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/books/4441/ref=zg_b_bs_4441_1


    According to Mike Mearls, in book units sold, 5e has sold more units than 3.0, 3.5 and 4th, individually (and that was in 2016, so imagine how many more units it has sold since then).

    https://twitter.com/mikemearls/status/764241988128419840?lang=en


    Anyone who tells you 5e isn’t popular is lying. That popularity is based on 5e being a solid system. Word of mouth is a thing, after all...look at what happened with 4e.
     
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  16. mondblut Arcane

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    Since their new policy is "don't print any other books than core rules", people are probably buying core rules over and over again. Old habits of buying a bunch of new AD&D books every month are hard to kick away.
     
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  17. Serus Arcane

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    5th edition might be good or might be shit. I wouldn't know. I don't think I ever played it in any form, never even read a single handbook. However it would certainly be interesting to see a 5th edition based proper CRPG exactly becasue it hasn't been done. Even if it turns out to be a mistake - it will be an interesting mistake. And if it turns good, that's great.
     
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  18. Lawntoilet Cipher Patron

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    Wait what about Sword Coast Legends?
    :troll:
     
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  19. Sinatar Arbiter

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    That didn't use any D&D rule set, it used it's own custom diarrhea.
     
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  20. GrainWetski Arcane

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    Why are they even namedropping FiraXCOM? Are they adding the beyond retarded "podsystem" or using the gamedestroying 2 "AP" system? If they just wanted a turn-based game to mention surely D:OS is a better one when you're making a turn-based RPG?

    X-COM is great, XCOM is not.
     
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  21. undecaf Arcane Patron

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    Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2
    More DnD... pfft.
     
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  22. TemplarGR Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Bethestard

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    I just had an orgasm
     
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  23. TemplarGR Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Bethestard

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    DnD is love, DnD is life
     
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  24. Andhaira Arcane

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    Grade A moron statement right there. Magic use, even in games like D&D implies a character was either born with a special talent they then spent years developing or studied exclusively for years for, OR made a dark bargain with entities beyond the pale for. Its only in video games like Baldurs Gate where you can just click the multi class button on your Rogue and switch to Wizard with it not having to make sense, and even then you pay for it by not being able to cast while wearing armor thus nullifying your fighter abilities to melee by a HUGE margin (pretty much making you useless in the front lines until you are high enough a level as a mage to have Mage Armor stick around for hours, and by then your THACO or BaB is so low you will barely hit anything)

    In plenty of RPGs non magic users, like warriors can beat the crap out of magic using PCs in a fight. Especially true in D&D and Pathfinder at the early levels (well ok unless the magic user has sleep or color spray, but then he better hope the fighter fails his Save)
     
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  25. deuxhero Arcane

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    Do you think fighters just pull how to swing a sword out of their ass?

    By RAW a Wizard takes 1 year to learn.
     
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