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[Tiger]

I assume people will be able to leave all their digital ships in their will so the kids might be able to use them some day.

 

[Grotesque]

 

[Myobi]

I assume people will be able to leave all their digital ships in their will so the kids might be able to use them some day.

Its already happening my dude.

 

[Delterius]

I assume people will be able to leave all their digital ships in their will so the kids might be able to use them some day.

Its already happening my dude.

Bearer Bonds vs 100k Ships in the Economy of the Future (Star Citizen space mining).

I know which I'd rather inherit.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

What games?
That's something I've yet to experience



That's a promotion
And still for that price I could buy a 2TB HDD that's not in promotion
Plus considering I would have to pay like 20 euros for the shipping/delivery I could use that extra money instead to buy a 3TB HDD

So really there's no reason for me to pay much more for an inferior product
Yes inferior, it's a hard drive it's purpose is storage not stick it up the ass because it's vibrates faster or some shit
If I want speed I'll buy a fucking CPU

Just buy a 125gb for £15, and install your windows on it already. You dumb cunt.

 

[DJOGamer PT]

Someone got triggered
Also wasting money and computer space for a 125gb disk lmao
I've had porn folders bigger than that
Might as well just take that money and buy a 100+ Gb pen drive, would be a superior investment

 

[DJOGamer PT]

Which game? Are you playing Solitaire or what.

I have no problems with Doom Eternal
And recentely installed Cyberpunk, even as the buggy mess it is I found no problems with loading and the stuttering was fixed when I found out the game wasn't even using 1Gb of my RAM and GPU
This is not to speak of the other modern games I have currentely insatlled (such as DMC5, REmake 2, Nioh, the WiiU, PS3 and Switch emulators, etc...) wich all have no problems, so clearly this whole "HDD's can't run modern games" is mostly bullshit and the few cases it might be true it's because the optimization of the game is complete dog shit
Like Star Citzen over here...

 

[Myobi]

Someone got triggered

Also wasting money and computer space for a 125gb disk lmao

I've had porn folders bigger than that

Might as well just take that money and buy a 100+ Gb pen drive, would be a superior investment

Guys, please just forgive him, shit’s rough for my budget Brazilian friend over here.

 

[Burning Bridges]

Someone got triggered
Also wasting money and computer space for a 125gb disk lmao
I've had porn folders bigger than that
Might as well just take that money and buy a 100+ Gb pen drive, would be a superior investment

No, you're doing right!

Get HDD make sure its a 5400 rpm - they are quieter and safer. Also run a webserver and a 128 GB pagefile on it ok. SSDs are just 1-2% faster so keep up the good fight.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

Someone got triggered
Also wasting money and computer space for a 125gb disk lmao
I've had porn folders bigger than that
Might as well just take that money and buy a 100+ Gb pen drive, would be a superior investment

No, you're doing right!

Get HDD make sure its a 5400 rpm - they are quieter and safer. Also run a webserver and a 128 GB pagefile on it ok. SSDs are just 1-2% faster so keep up the good fight.

Can you believe what you're reading BB?

I bought my Samsung 830 9 (?!?) years ago now. Could you imagine fucking about with a slow, shitass mechanical as a main windows drive for all those years? Having to encapsulate it in rubber grommets because you can hear that piece of shit rattle itself to oblivion. Windows recently bugged out and set my pagefile to one of my mechanicals, a 7200rpm Samsung and great drive for what it is. It was the BG3 EE, so there must be a memory leak, because I was wondering why my game was stuttering like a motherfucker and textures not loading. Also WHY COULD I HEAR MY MECHANICAL GOING APESHIT through my case. Game was running out of DDR and streaming shit off a platter so I set pagefile back to my C: SSD drive, no issues after. Night and day difference in user experience... Motherfucker, I couldn't believe it.

Shit is like VRAM, you don't notice it until it's gone, but when it is you can bend over, nigger.

Money's tight, I get and respect that. Which is all the more reason to treat yourself to the biggest single performance uplift your computer could ever experience that could be bought for a paltry £15 today. When does that ever happen in computing? This industry makes you pay through the nose for every percentile of performance. I paid through the nose 9 years ago so stubborn portugese autists don't have to today. Embrace it, faggot.

Or dont, I don't give a shit as it's not my computer. But don't talk complete bollocks on the 'Dex and expect to not be challenged.

 

[Burning Bridges]

SSDs are crazy but with Optane it could get even better. There may be a future where loading times are a thing of the past and games open instantaneously, almost like RAM. Although we could already be at this point if they would not bloat games so much. I can still remember times when gigabytes was an insane unit and people were conservative about megabytes.

 

[PapaPetro]

They even got M.2 cards which put SATA SSD to shame.

 

[Burning Bridges]

M.2 is just an interface. What ppl mean with "M.2" is NVME drives which are all right but the advantage is only sequential access. People report there isn't much noticeable difference to SSDs, they are faster though. Optane is the better architecture because it improves random access times and your system becomes much more responsive. It's just a little expensive right now.

 

[DJOGamer PT]

But don't talk complete bollocks on the 'Dex and expect to not be challenged.

Challenge? What challenge?
There's no challenge here because nobody still ain't given me a compelling enough reason for me to consider it's purchase
So far it's been nothing but 'Oh it's a night and day difference! Trust me anon. Loading times are faster lmao'

The points so far have been this.

Mine:
-much cheaper and higher storage capacity (the only thing I require of a hard drive)
-7200rpm fast enough to access files and do my things
-absolutely no problems with it in the last 5 years
-has no issues dealing with modern AAA games with titanic file sizes

Everyone else:
-much faster and efficient performance (good point sure, but still not enough to overcome the significant price increase for the same capacity)
-loading screens are faster lol (literally no problem for me, specially since not even the mess that is CP2077 makes me wait more than 20 seconds)
-oh it's required to play all these modern simulators which I'll never play because I am not a fucking boomer (or running badly optimized vapourware like Star Citzen)

Do SSD's last longer, are they more durable?
Are they simpler to diagnose, mantain and repair?
Is recovering lost data from an SSD easier than in a HDD?

If SSD's do outperform HDD's in these areas, then I might very well acquaire one
If not, then I won't be switching any time soon
In fact I am actually considering to buy a 2Tb HDD which I can get for some 50/60 euros or even a 3Tb one which is only like 30 jewros more
While for a 2Tb SDD I can't find one that isn't bellow 200 fucking euros (with that I could upgrade my CPU), so I don't even want to know how much I would have to waste for a 3Tb one

 

[Peachcurl]

20 seconds loading screen? Damn. Long enough to get bored, but too short to visit the toilet. Dreadful!

 

[DJOGamer PT]

ritalin or adderall would solve your problem

 

[Myobi]

Pros: Writing & Reading speeds, Reliability, Lower consumption, Density, Lack of noise, Cost of deployment.

Cons: lower capacity & higher price.

By pretty much every fucking tech reviwer.

Is it "worth" it? It depends on the purpose of it, video games? In GTA V we are talking about 1-5 extra FPS and almost less 30 of loading time, yes, it should run just fine in a HDD, but calling it an "inferior" product purely based on size and price is beyond retard, its like saying a sports car is inferior to a fucking old van cuz it transports less people and its more expensive.

 

[Burning Bridges]

DJOGamer PT post was so full of win

HDDs rule. much cheaper and higher storage capacity. 5400 rpm fast enough to access files and do my things. absolutely no problems with it in the last 25 years. Lots of extra bandwidth space for webserver and 196GB potato RAM. modern simulators which I'll never play because I am not a fucking boomer.

 

[Peachcurl]

ritalin or adderall would solve your problem

I think an SSD is cheaper in the long run.

 

[DJOGamer PT]

Pros: Writing & Reading speeds, Reliability, Lower consumption, Density, Lack of noise, Cost of deployment.

I can see all those, except reliability
Explain that please, and don't just say 'lol trust me bro'

HDDs rule.

Nothing of that sort
Just that nobody actually gave me a good enough reason to switch, when I've had no problems with my current gear (if it ain't broken and all that...)
Not to mention nobody answered those 3 questions I posted:

Do SSD's last longer, are they more durable?
Are they simpler to diagnose, mantain and repair?
Is recovering lost data from an SSD easier than in a HDD?

 

[Burning Bridges]

HDD MASTER RACE

I CAN STORE 6.5X MORE PORNO WHILE MY ARMA3 LOAD TIMES IS ONLY LOWERED 0.1-0.2% PER KILOSECOND

GIVE ME 1 REASON WHY I SHOULD WASTE 15 ESCUDOS FOR A 128GB

 

[Peachcurl]

Do SSD's last longer, are they more durable?

Lifetime depends on your usage patterns and environmental parameters. I don't think there's a definitive answer to that. From my own anecdotal observations they do last longer.

Regarding durability, I never lost an SSD due to impact damage (unlike HDD). Makes sense, since SSDs do not have any moving parts. May not be relevant if it is an internal drive for a stationary PC.

Are they simpler to diagnose, mantain and repair?

Doubt it.

Is recovering lost data from an SSD easier than in a HDD?

Depends on how 'lost' it is, but probably no.

 

[Myobi]

Pros: Writing & Reading speeds, Reliability, Lower consumption, Density, Lack of noise, Cost of deployment.

I can see all those, except reliability

Explain that please, and don't just say 'lol trust me bro'

You don't even have to trust the explanation of some random internet dude.


As I said, SSDs are nothing new, tons of reviews and comparisons out there made by professionals a quick google search away from you:

SSD vs. HDD Reliability and Durability

An SSD has no moving parts, so it is more likely to keep your data safe in the event you drop your laptop bag or your system gets shaken while it's operating. Most hard drives park their read/write heads when the system is off, but when they are working, the heads are flying over the drive platter at a distance of a few nanometers. Besides, even parking brakes have limits. If you're rough on your equipment, an SSD is recommended.

Reliability and Understanding SSD Lifespan

“Do SSD drives fail?” Well, that’s actually redundant since the D stands for drives, but yes. Of course. Everything fails. Rather we should be asking: “Do SSD drives fail faster?” That is a bit more complicated though.

SSDs are more reliable when it comes to harsh environments than HDDs because they don’t have actuator arms or any moving parts. As such, SSDs can withstand accidental drops and extreme temperatures better than HDDs.

The gaming experience: SSD vs. HDD

Gamers need a computer drive that accesses data quickly, which makes SSDs optimal for the best gaming experience. Video games contain enormous amounts of assets, such as high-resolution textures, models, audio, and more—up to 100 GB of data, in some cases. These requirements make speed and capacity paramount. A game that that takes two to three minutes to load on an HDD takes well under a minute on an SSD. And the initial load is not the only time a game needs to access stored data. Data is needed whenever the player enters a new level, scene, or mission. Long load times can disrupt the game and fast load times protect the sense of immersion that you want when in the middle of your game. If you need help choosing the right SSD for your gaming needs, read about the best SSD for gaming.

Data is the center of so much that we do. When choosing between an SSD or an HDD, there are numerous considerations beyond storage capacity and cost. Reliability, speed, noise, and power usage all come into play, affecting your overall experience. When you identify the type of data that you are working with and how and when you need to access it, you can compare a solid state drive vs. hard drive to find the solution that’s right for you.

What’s not to love about solid state drives (SSDs)? They are faster than conventional hard disk drives (HDDs), more compact, have no moving parts, are immune to magnetic fields, and can withstand more shocks and vibration than conventional magnetic platter disks. And, they are becoming available in larger and larger capacities while their cost comes down.

If you’ve upgraded an older computer with an SSD, you no doubt instantly saw the benefits. Your computer booted in less time, your applications loaded faster, and even when you ran out of memory, and apps and data had to be swapped to disk, it felt like everything was much snappier.

We’re now seeing SSDs with capacities that used to be reserved for HDDs and at prices that no longer make our eyes water. 500 GB SSDs are now affordable (under $100), and 1 TB drives are reasonably priced ($100 to $150). Even 2 TB SSDs fall into a budget range for putting together a good performance desktop system ($300 to $400).

SSD Reliability Factors to Consider

Generally, SSDs are more durable than HDDs in extreme and harsh environments because they don’t have moving parts such as actuator arms. SSDs can withstand accidental drops and other shocks, vibration, extreme temperatures, and magnetic fields better than HDDs. Add to that their small size and lower power consumption, and you can understand why they’re a great fit for laptop computers and mobile applications.

… it’s not as much as a problem of “just trust me bro”, but more of “just google it bro”, don’t just take my word for it.

 

[Peachcurl]

To be fair, it's closer to "just trust me" if you consider longterm-attrition.

 

[DJOGamer PT]

GIVE ME 1 REASON WHY I SHOULD WASTE 15 ESCUDOS FOR A 128GB

Actually if we still used Escudos then 15 euros would roughly some 3000 escudos (wich back then meant you could buy like 30 sandwitches)