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Vapourware Star Citizen - Only people with too much money can become StarCitizens! WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE?

Discussion in 'MMO(RP)G / Online Discussion' started by Morgoth, Sep 10, 2012.

  1. Blaine Cis-Het Oppressor Patron

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    Bear in mind that Sony has reportedly been passing the dev kits out like candy—as I've said, CIG may simply have accepted the development kit because there are human beings in that office, they were curious, and they just wanted to check it out. They are a development team, after all, and to many of them consoles don't seem as hateful and poisonous as they do to us here at the Codex. The presence of the dev kit doesn't necessarily mean that Star Citizen will ever be developed for the PS4. In fact, if the hangar module's recommended specs are anything to go by, the PS4 could barely handle Star Citizen, if at all.

    Note too that all of the old 1990s Wing Commander games were ported to SNES/PlayStation/etc. It could be that only Squadron 42 will ever be ported to consoles in limited fashion (if indeed anything is ported).

    All that being said, again, if a console port is announced or released before ALL THREE PHASES of the PC version (multiplayer servers, persistent universe, and Squadron 42) are completed and have been released—or if the PC version's UI elements, menu system, control scheme, netcode, ceiling on graphical enhancements, patches, manpower spent developing the PC version in the future, et cetera seem in danger of being affected IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER by the console version—that's it. Chris Roberts will be dead to me, the project will be dead to me, I'll be forced to suck Grunker's cock textually on the Codex until the end of time, and likely computer gaming itself will be dead to me. I'll take up banzai gardening, golf, play-by-mail chess, or sit in Starbucks pretending to be a writer on my off-hours.

    The dev kit wouldn't worry me one bit if not for the fact that Chris Roberts himself publicly stated that he wasn't ruling out console ports/versions. It's the two combined that worry me.

    Edit: I have created a little image in order to commemorate the shitstorm, though.

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  2. Blaine Cis-Het Oppressor Patron

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    [​IMG]

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  3. Haba Harbinger of Decline Patron

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  4. Blaine Cis-Het Oppressor Patron

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    I've whipped up another little something in Photoshop to commemorate the shitstorm:
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    Haba: I imagine the imminent sale, if not the pile of angry forum threads, will prompt CIG to respond in SOME way to the shitstorm.
     
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  5. Grunker RPG Codex Ghost Patron

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    I'm on a phone from a conference, so I can't give this palaver the lengthy reply it deserves. Suffice it to say I think a console version with equal focus would be suicide, so I don't think you'll have to suck my cock... textually or otherwise. I probably overreacted with regards to the consolething...

    However, I think there's legitimate concern with Squadron 42, and like you say, if that feta is ported, it might end up affecting Star Citizen.
     
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  6. Blaine Cis-Het Oppressor Patron

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    [​IMG]
     
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  7. Grunker RPG Codex Ghost Patron

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  9. Turisas Arch Devil Patron

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    Ehh, as long as Sony pays for the PS4 version development (instead of using backer funds) and it comes out only after everything that was promised to PC backers has come out, then I see no issue. If they're trying to squeeze that shit together with the PC release, then yeah fuck them and gimme back my money.
     
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    I'M A PC GAME GUYS, I SWEAR!

    *28 million dollars later*

    SYKE!
     
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  11. WhiskeyWolf RPG Codex Polish Car Thief Patron

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    What kind of a retard you have to be to not see the obvious, catastrophic implication of making a pic of a PS4 dev-kit and then showing it to your PC fanbase?
     
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    And that's after previous shitstorms over CR's comments.
     
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  13. Grunker RPG Codex Ghost Patron

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    Well, incidentally, I guess he doesn't have much of a reason to give a fuck. He's got the 28 million. Essentially, what can people do? Threaten to not pay more than the thousands of dollars they've already payed?
     
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  14. WhiskeyWolf RPG Codex Polish Car Thief Patron

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    Every heard about 'someone riding the tiger'?
     
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  15. Grunker RPG Codex Ghost Patron

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    This particular tiger is pretty toothless though, isn't it? I mean, what'll these guys do again? Short of a mass-boycot that highlights Chris as scum to everyone else (should he do it) that gets other groups interested - and such boycots are extremely rare - he stands to lose nothing. If he's dickheaded and non-idealistic enough, of course.
     
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  16. Blaine Cis-Het Oppressor Patron

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    I don't believe the real truth is as a bad as we (myself included) are spinning it in our heads. There are some pretty powerful counter-arguments against a console version/port actually happening that make this whole debacle seem like a silly overreaction. For example:

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    There were a few in the RSI forum shitstorm threads, but those threads were merged, so I can't be bothered to find them anymore.
     
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    Just getting mentally prepared for the inevitable stab in the back, brah.
     
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    Maybe they'll just release Squadron 42 only, on PS4.

    I doubt it would gain much traction on there though.
     
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    A wise man once said :Think long and hard next time before you buy a game they were clearly hiding pre-release and that showed some severe warning signs.
    Not sure if the ps4 kit dev kit count as a severe warning sign they were used to console portsthey werent detrimental to pc versions . The wing commander 3DO port wasnt so bad no ? If its ported maybe it will be like in the 90's 2000's a superior pc version and some inferior but still playable console one.
    Was worth remembering the console ports theres a good article there:
    http://blog.hardcoregaming101.net/2009/11/console-versions-of-wing-commander.html
     
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  20. Morgoth Arcane Patron

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    I'm glad I didn't pledge a single dime on this console port.

    Perhaps they want Sony to get on board for their Quality Assurance services. If you want to know how ambitious large-scale projects made by small independent teams turn out, just look at X Rebirth. It's a disaster.
     
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    Wow, I almost bit the bullet and pledged for this one.
     
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  22. IDtenT Contact me for a good time Patron

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    The outbursts are hilarious. :lol:
     
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  23. Blaine Cis-Het Oppressor Patron

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    The Hangar Module was released several months ago. The Dogfighting Module will be released this December (it might be delayed until early 2014; there's been no hint of a delay, but it could happen), over a year prior to the game's actual release. Additional modules will be released in the interim. The development process has been incredibly transparent, with a wealth of information being made available to the general public—to the extent that CIG hasn't complained nor tried to stop anyone from dissecting the hangar module's bits and pieces, importing models into the CryEngine sandbox and so on. I can't remember any commercial game in history where the public was allowed to tinker with the studio's models a year and a half before release. The models, animations, and textures are very solid even for alpha versions, and everyone seems quite happy with them. Furthermore, CIG will still be offering full refunds upon request, even once the Dogfighting Module is made available.

    That's not "hiding" anything—and if you think it is, then you are an idiot. It's the exact opposite of hiding anything.

    As far as "warning signs" go: We all know what they are (possible console version? will pledge ships/the credits shop damage the game? doesn't this project sound too ambitious to deliver as promised?), and we know what the worst-case scenarios they represent are. It's far too early to call, though. Moreover, the developers have discussed and addressed these issues in great detail (and responded to the PS4 dev kit frenzy rather swiftly), rather than keeping quiet until you realize you've been fucked, which is industry standard.

    A wise man would think a little harder and familiarize himself with known facts before making an ass of himself.
     
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  24. Blaine Cis-Het Oppressor Patron

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    Chris Roberts responds to the PS4 shitstorm bright and early Monday morning:

    https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/76653/star-citizen-pc-ps4-and-consoles/p1

     
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    That'd be bad though, imagine if they couldn't do some cool updates a few years down the line because the consoles couldn't handle it and they have to maintain parity?

    Idefinitely appreciate the desire to be the next Crysis. Godspeed Chris, please don't disappoint.
     
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