Star Wars Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - sequel to Fallen Order

[SpaceWizardz]

https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi/jedi-survivor

Spoiler

 

[Ryzer]

The trailer spoiled the villain and showed nothing, wow.

 

[Alienman]

So Werner Herzog is the bad guy.

 

[mediocrepoet]

Teasers never show anything, that's why it's called a teaser.

I thought it was pretty good for a teaser, tbh. It set a tone and drew my interest for what else they might show. The actual game will probably be disappointing since it's current year, but their marketing department is earning their salary.

 

[<3sRichardSimmons]

Meh, it’s not as though the writing or plot were great in the first game. It was the combination of nailing Star Wars OT aesthetics and providing generally decent 3D Soulslite gameplay and level design that made the game work.

And to be fair, anything coming from Disney Star Wars that isn’t a complete dumpster fire in writing is already above like 90% of their output, so…

 

[gerey]

The trailer spoiled the villain and showed nothing, wow.

The first game introduced you to the main villain within 15 minutes of the first level. It's not like it's a shocking revelation you're going to be fighting against more Inquisitors and Vader.

Meh, it’s not as though the writing or plot were great in the first game.

Neither was the writing in Jedi Knight or KOTOR games, but the point is that they respected the IP unlike most of the dreck Disney shits out, which is actively spiteful towards established characters, lore and the fanbase.

It's just proof that you don't need much to make a good SW game (or SW anything really), but even that low bar is something Disney is seemingly incapable of reaching.

 

[deuxhero]

MCA's writing was the only reason 1 wasn't horrible. It's not even like it will let me play as a cute Twi'lek girl, so I have no idea why one would bother with this.

Star Wars Galaxies is basically the only videogame that treated Jedi like how they should be in that era. Incredibly rare, and if you became a jedi, you always died eventually.
Of course people's power fantasies caused them to revise this so that anyone could be a jedi and there was no downside to doing such.

It makes me genuinely angry that WoW was successful and Star Wars Galaxies wasn't. The MMO crowd chose mindless repetition over dynamic and personal experiences and I have still not gotten over that.

Star Wars Galaxies was always going to succeed or fail based on how it treated Jedi. They fucked that up. Either by not understanding how important it was or by having no idea how to solve it.

Really, the biggest problem with how the Galaxies update was immediately making the player "Jedi". If they called the class "force adept" (or, better yet, made it a sub-class any class could get by devoting points to) and made getting a lightsaber, robes and title as "Jedi" something late game it wouldn't have been as bad as it was.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

Wow, Cal doesn't look like a 16 yo baby boy anymore. He now looks like.... 22?

 

[Ezekiel]

Stuffing Dark Souls into Star Wars to that extent was so stupid. Star Wars feels much more real, so having the enemies all reappear when you rest is eye-roll inducing. Then you add that the Dark Souls-like exploration is wasted on 90 percent of the chests containing shitty cosmetics, in the typical EA fashion.

 

[<3sRichardSimmons]

The collectibles/secrets be almost exclusively cosmetics was indeed a baffling design decision. Hopefully the pushback was large enough that that will be changed for the sequel.

 

[Valestein]

Hopefully that twink Cal gives Merrin the good dicking that she deserves finally.

 

[vortex]

Wow, Cal doesn't look like a 16 yo baby boy anymore. He now looks like.... 22?

The shit is about to get serious.

 

[Kem0sabe]

First game was a lot of fun, I really enjoyed exploring and unlocking the levels.

The biggest issue was how empty the world felt, no towns, very few NPCs, etc.

I wish the sequel would try to build up the world to be more than go to x and fight anything you meet along the way.

 

[Zenithsan]

First one was awful, didn't even finish the first planet.
Only good for people with very bad taste in videogames that expect the bare minimum

Dark Souls-like exploration

Just kill me

 

[Zibniyat]

The first one was good, I've enjoyed it greatly. If they improve upon exploration, combat and world building, the sequel may be even better. They should tone down the extravagant newStarWars fads like outrageously looking lightsabers and similar, instead of focusing on a more fluid use of the Force.

I certainly hope the plot and overall story and world holding (in literary sense) will be even better.

 

[Ninjerk]

So Werner Herzog is the bad guy.

Always has been

 

[Obsequious Approbation]

We will never get another Jedi Knight game again, will we?

 

[Fedora Master]

Star Wars is dead. It's been dead since the Prequels. Move on.

 

[GhostCow]

Star Wars is dead. It's been dead since the Prequels. Move on.

This is only true for the movies and tv shows. I've never liked shit wars but the games have always been good and there is still plenty of potential for good games, even in current year. Fallen Order was great compared to most of the shit released these days so I'd say even when everything is shit, Star Wars games have the potential to be less shitty than the competition.

 

[Comte_II]

Star Wars is for bug men

 

[SilentSeeker]

We will never get another Jedi Knight game again, will we?

No- but why would we? Kyle's story is finished. Let him rest. Besides, would YOU trust Disney with him? Look at the makeover they gave him for Rogue One!

If, on the other hand. you just mean "a well-made game with solid gameplay and writing, then, well, also no, but it's much more depressing. LucasArts, we hardly knew ye.

Star Wars is for bug men

No, no- gas arrows are for bug men. Star Wars is for burricks.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

Wow, Cal doesn't look like a 16 yo baby boy anymore. He now looks like.... 22?

The shit is about to get serious.

He's about to pull his *real* lightsaber out of his concealed sheath.

 

[vortex]

He's about to pull his *real* lightsaber out of his concealed sheath.

Are you suggesting Jedi Survivor should feature romances?

 

[deuxhero]

We will never get another Jedi Knight game again, will we?

No- but why would we? Kyle's story is finished. Let him rest.

I'd still take a new JK game built on the Outcast/Academy engine, even with Kyle having minimal place in the story, but I know Disney would never let it happen and would never let it be good.

 

[KörangarTheMighty]

Who the fuck is coming up with these terrible titles for games?