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  1. Freelance Henchman Arcane

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    ME2. Seriously, FUCK Paypal.
     
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  2. Taluntain Most Frabjous

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    Again, you don't need a PayPal account. PayPal can process your cc without an account.
     
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  3. DarkUnderlord Professional Throne Sitter

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    I dunno. I'm enjoying the drama from the mere suggestion coming from someone who's not even on staff of removing GD. I reckon we go ahead and just nuke it for all the shits 'n giggles that'll cause.

    It's no use Tal. They're dumber then they like to admit. Just tell them you've now enabled credit cards to be used without creating a PayPal account and watch as they all thank you.
     
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  4. Micmu Magister

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    For the lazy fucks, send me a private message with your credit card number and I'll donate for you.
     
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  5. Freelance Henchman Arcane

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    :lol: Okay, didn't notice you don't actually need to make an account. Alright then.
     
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  6. villain of the story Arcane

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    What's everyone's beef with PayPal?
     
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  7. Think big! Smoking Dicks

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    3/10
     
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  8. deus101 Never LET ME into a tattoo parlor!

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    Don't we already :smug:

    In all seriousness though...there is the "chat hard" mentality on codex i mean...we rage and we love to, and the internet culture sorta takes over.
    There are ways to know what can be taken seriusly and what cannot, but mostly i just run on good faith.

    In short...i pass of as anti-semitic because referring to jews is so "EDGY".

    http://www.rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic ... 24#1292624

    well...at the time i was also dealing with that Zeit retard and thought was Tungusake was really just acting.

    yeah... not my proudest moment.



    But...do people feel uncomfortable with the /b/-tard-goon mentality, the oldies and more mature members from 30-to-40....
    Thing is heard there used to be alot of industry related people here...and they started to disappear...so...have the codex really changed alot because of people discovering 4chan at a young age then bringing along the mentality?




    (bah my post is kinda messy but i got to hit the hay, take it for what it is)
     
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  9. Thrasher Erudite

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    I absolutely HATE those popups. If you do it anyway, please disable for patrons or registered users.
     
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  10. Antihero Liturgist

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    It's your site and the double lines let you tell them apart from regular links, but it just feels so intrusive and ugly to read. I'd rather read "Adbot loves you" posts full of spam links - or shaking, seizure inducing popups to that.
     
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  11. torpid Liturgist

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    Are you seriously claiming that GD is better than the game forums because unlike them it's not about trying too hard to be edgy :lol:? If there's one place on this forum where edgy 4chan dumbfuckery reigns supremes, it's GD.

    :salute::salute::salute:
    :bro:
     
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  12. Redeye Arcane

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    Or discovering it at an old age.

    Or picking it up second hand.
     
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  13. Think big! Smoking Dicks

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    This is not a place for reflection or meta commentary on yourself.

    Nobody cares.
     
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  14. mpxd Liturgist

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    Blocking guests from seeing GD sounds like a good plan, server problems or no. We don't want to be attracting _more_ of the GD crowd, now do we?

    I wonder though, how many of those guests are here to read about Avatar 2 release date confirmed?
     
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  15. HardCode Erudite

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    Then go around the system ...

    In this day and age of NoScript, Ad Block Plus, etc., return to the purest form of internet. Just create, for example, a top-of-the-subforum stickied thread with plain ol' HTML links to the sites that people aren't seeing because they are images that are either:

    1. subconsciously ignored by today's internet users
    2. Ad Blocked
    3. NoScript blocked

    Title the thread "Where To Buy Great Games?" and just provide non-blockable HTML links to the advertisers. Also, put a list of links prominently on the home page. Naturally, it wouldn't work for ads for random sites each time you refresh the browser, but you could put the Amazon links and GoG link into the thread.

    Additionally, perhaps people not clicking on ads which are not blocked has to do with HCI (Human-Computer Interaction) issues rather than people just don't want to click the links. I really hate to use the term "Web 2.0", but the Codex really could use a visual facelift in a "Web 2.0" kind of way (even though Web 2.0 doesn't really exist). At the least, for example, make the advertiser links more prominent. If you glance at the top 1/3 of the Codex forum page, all of the white text links just blend into the dark grey background in a mess of text between the header menu and the forum breadcrumbs - bracketed by an image of a T-Shirt and a mug. Those alone do not draw the eye to themselves. In addition, the List of RPG Codex Latest News and Tacticular Cancer Latest News totally drown out and overpower the Amazon links, which just seem to mix right in.

    Overall, a visual face lift seems in order.

    As far as database size goes, enforce something like a 20-character minimum post count, excluding
     
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  16. Norfleet Moderator

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    Personally, I think the problem you're experiencing is one of efficiency. Something you're doing in site operations is simply massive inefficient. You pay $400 a month for a site half the size of ones I run, on half the budget you run it on. That's an obvious problem right there. Find a cheaper host that offers more for less. Odds are you will: If this place has been hosted here for awhile, your server is probably an antique and you're paying rates as of however many years ago you last moved. This site is simply not that big: 9K-odd users and an average usercount of maybe 200-ish on a typical day. If you're running into load issues, it's not because you need to drop functionality, it's because you need to improve efficiency. What are you running this on, anyway? Because 15K visits a month and 2M pageviews is nothing and shouldn't have any significant effect.
     
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  17. Frau Bishop Erudite

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    Do I get this right, the major concern we have are the unwashed masses storming the gates? And we don't have enough resources to handle them all at once?
    Welcome to Europe. :roll:

    But after so many Codexians revealed themselves as true enemies of the Codex (ban, mod, delete, streamline,...) I'm relieved to read words like
    from a 2011 volunteer. Hey MrJones, you an alt? If yes, keep it save, it will be worth a lot on Ebay after registration is on hold for some months. And you could even announce the sale here, with a pay-link to Ebay, so everyone wins. :p


    I resist to write "Fuck you!" and wonder what you mean. Attack other people personally? Did this ever happen? There have been some personal info leaks, but not approved by the gov afaik and they have been removed pretty timely.
    Or are "personal attacks" really Plane Ticket requests? You want to ban them? Huh.



    tl,dr:
    Admins starting to block some public traffic (in a gentle way) and some users who don't starve right now cough up some cash, at least enough to pay for the traffic they personally create, with their cute little clicks.

    *click..click*
     
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  18. Taluntain Most Frabjous

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    This is me repeating myself with the bold up there. I'd never put that up for regular users, but if it's an incentive to sign up to get LESS advertising, that doesn't seem like a bad idea.

    Excellent idea. Except for the fact that nobody reads stickies.

    Google for instance has 2 opposing recommendations on how to style ads. One is to make them blend in as much as possible with the existing content. This, by popular vote, means that nobody notices them - unless we put them right into the content itself, which would produce avalanches of complaints about how the ads interfere with the content in about 23 seconds after putting them up.

    The other idea is to make them stand out from the other content. Unfortunately ads that stand out tend to be consciously or subconsciously ignored by most people as well.

    So we've got two opposing theories which produce the same crap results. Combined with an audience intent on actively blocking all ads or at best making sure that they never ever click on any of them, it's not really surprising that we're not getting anywhere with ads. The only forms of advertising that would actually be effective here would be the kind that everyone moans, groans and throws tantrums about - pop-ups, takeovers, etc. That's the only kind that would actually be noticed and clicked.

    A visual facelift of the link block and such certainly wouldn't hurt, but it wouldn't do any miracles either, I'm pretty sure of that. Once we're off this ancient phpBB, I'll see about improving the placement of the ads on the forums.

    You're making a bunch of incorrect assumptions based on incomplete information or guesswork. One thing that you got right though is that efficiency is one of the key problems, which is why we're working on getting Codex to run more efficiently.
     
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  19. racofer Thread Incliner

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    What is causing the abnormal amount of hits on the servers are all the tranny references in there.

    Porn is the single most searched thing on the planet. Anything regarding transsexualism will point here as well and with SMA and Kaiserin posting pictures, it will show up as a result.
     
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  20. Antihero Liturgist

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    Yeah, but it just seems like a bigger disincentive to register in the first place. Maybe it's just my Internet prejudices, but I tend to forget about those sites pretty quickly. I know you don't like people discussing that which shall not be discussed, but the reason I used to disable Javascript and the kitchen sink along with it was because of the complete annoyance web sites turned it into where you couldn't even use your browser's back button, or crap flying all over your screen - and I haven't seen the need to revise my opinion since.

    Don't get me wrong - I'm not against trying to cover your costs. I'm just giving my unsolicited opinion about the means to do so.
     
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  21. racofer Thread Incliner

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    And that's a bad thing because...?
     
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  22. Antihero Liturgist

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    Because somebody with taste and talent might dismiss this site as a spam haven? Not that it gives me any right to be here.
     
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  23. Coyote Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Blocking GD for non-registered users seems like the best option to me. In addition to the points that others have made, a lot of the stuff that gets the Codex the cold shoulder from advertisers (which Taluntain mentioned as part of the problem) and sites like imageshack likely originates in GD. If you just saw GRPGD et al., you might think we're a bunch of edgy, trying-too-hard haters, but hey, that's just another demographic. Throw in GD, and suddenly we look like a bunch of Hitler-wannabes posting "nigger nigger nigger" at every opportunity and ranting about Jews; advertisers don't want to be associated with that sort of thing.

    I can't speak for anyone else, but I've been wary of PayPal ever since my dad (who uses it in his online dealings) had an account containing thousands of dollars locked, with no way to access the money. Why? Because someone with the same listed name and/or location and/or whatever - they wouldn't even tell him what, specifically - owed them money. They seemed to think he was the same person as the one who owed them money, but refused to give any information about what they were basing this conclusion on because it would violate their privacy policy. (Hint, dumbfucks: If you're sure he's the same person, you're not violating anyone's privacy. If you're not, you don't have any business holding his money.) It wasn't identity theft, either, so they don't even have that excuse.

    It took three months of dealing with a whole lot of very, very arrogant assholes and the typical bureaucratic "we don't want to take responsibility, so we're going to foist you onto another department" bullshit before they finally relented, and that was only after he threatened legal action and filed a complaint against the company to the FTC.

    Apparently, this isn't uncommon.

    Additionally, they were a pretty disreputable company before eBay took over, and many people believe that the shady elements haven't entirely disappeared.
     
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