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KickStarter Studio FOW's Subverse - Explore a wacky galaxy full of hot alien babes! - now on Early Access

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by LESS T_T, Mar 24, 2019.

  1. Curratum Magister

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    Game is overwritten, uninspired, loquacious garbage. The SHMUP is decent fun. The XCom grid combat is trash. The porn is dull and almost completely non-interactive, to the point where it's fixed camera angles. Game is hot garbage, considering their "ambitions" and the amount of money they got.

    There you go, your Codex review.

    Edit: Here's my actual Steam review that I posted back when EA was released. Haven't bothered to check on it since then, because it was bad enough to just discourage me from bothering again.

    "Kickstarter backer. Disappointed, would not recommend.

    The game is persistently, insistently unfunny and poorly written and that really starts to grate on your nerves since there's incredible amounts of text.

    This is another big issue - everything is overwritten to the point where the voiceover is wasted cash because you're just skipping through the pointless, overlong drivel. There is no consistency of tone in the writing too, half of it is so over the top tongue-in-cheek, it starts to sound idiotic. The other half is very serious and high-brow. The only thing that is consistent here is how long-winded and tiresome everything is.

    There is a multi-second loading screen every time you take a breath. The cinematics drop frames and the audio stutters.

    Don't even get me started on the lewd scenes. It's an interactive game, built on the most advanced engine at the time of production and you're just looking at looping, pre-baked animations that somehow drop to 40 fps as well, on hardware above the recommended spec.

    No camera controls in the lewd scenes, no interactivity, nothing.

    The grid X-Com combat is nothing to write home about.

    The only good thing about the game is the bullet hell twin-stick shmup component, but you can get a better one that doesn't cost 25 EUR elsewhere on Steam."
     
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  2. Tyranicon A Memory of Eternity Developer

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    So when you guys say no interactivity for the sex scenes, does that mean it's just a cutscene? Not even the basic "blowjob slow" "blowjob fast" options?
     
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  3. Chippy Arcane Patron

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    Had a moment of short-term memory loss where I thought I had clicked the Pathfinder:WOTR thread. But this is still very informative.
     
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  4. Optimist Learned Patron

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    I guess that the old adage about how one should never pay for porn still holds true.
     
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  5. Perkel Arcane

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    Asking the important questions. Well guys ?
     
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  6. catfood AGAIN

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    There are a few "premium" scenes where you have a slider that changes the speed/intensity of animation and a CUM button for when you're sick of watching the .gif and want to see the MC COOOOOOOM!!!

    The rest are ~10 second long gifs.

    Almost none of them come with any context in the story whatsoever. They are literally nothing more than unrelated .gifs that you unlock whenever you want with some in game currency.

    If you've come here expecting something like a japanese VN where each scene is part of the story you have CUM to the wrong place.
     
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  7. Tyranicon A Memory of Eternity Developer

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    They got millions of dollars for this?

    Disappoint.
     
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  8. catfood AGAIN

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    Yeah. Well, there's a story behind it. FOW, in case you don't know, are best known for producing hardcore raep SFM porn vids with lots of fucked up fetishes, including bestiality. Now when they did their KS they wanted to get money from the normies who might not be familiar with their previous, ahem, work, as well as from the degenerates who used to finance them on Patreon. They kinda didn't address the whole monster porn thing a whole lot during the KS hoping to play both sides. Afterwards during the development more info started coming out. Initially there was supposed to be a sort of skill tree where you would unlock the sex scenes and upgrade the girls. There was a lot of backlash from the normie faction complaining that they didn't want to see forced NTR, and so FOW gutted the whole thing. This is how we got the current system where you just buy the scenes from a gallery.

    In a perverse (heh) way, I think that FOW hoped that this gallery system would please everyone since this system takes very little effort on their part. They just need to animate some scenes. No need to have to also take in consideration how they fit in with the rest of the game. Easy work. Unfortunately for them a lot of people complained about the bare bones nature of it and rightly claimed that they were cheated out of the experience. Now the only people who support the current system are the vanillafags who are scared they're gonna get cucked by aliens.

    They say that they are going to revamp the scenes in the next updated and give them more context, but I think the damage has already been done at this point, unless they bring in the VA's again to record new dialogue lines.
     
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  9. Tyranicon A Memory of Eternity Developer

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    Do the scenes really have no context? This boggles the mind. Why would you make a porn game where the porn has no context?

    You know, it's funny. My games are in adult dev (I'm... on the lower-mid side in popularity, probably?) and I never bothered to learn much about FOW other than that they have drama.

    So much so that a LOT of adult devs straight out hate them for making what they say is a lazy meme game and giving the industry a bad name.

    I dunno about that, the porngame industry is pretty fucked in a lot of ways.
     
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  10. Chippy Arcane Patron

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    You know we're living in a world of decline when people get millions for making a porn game that doesn't even have a story. :lol:

    Ok, I'm taking the piss in reference to the people back in the day who used to complain that there was no story in hentai and hollywood porn. But I dunno. If I bought a porn game I would expect something like 'Legend of the Overfiend' from back in the 90s. Barebones of a story that made sense from a Japanese hentai cultural point of view and just straight-up abused women.

    Of course, it's 2021 now, so you just straight-up abuse everyone. How hard can it be?. Good, evil. Evil people rape and pillage. Good people play hero and get the village slut, damsel in distress, farmer's daughter from a quest, and finally the princess as a reward. Make the princess transgender with a 13" cock for the sake of diversity. Put it in a sci-fi setting for shitz and giggles.

    I wasn't asking for much. :argh:
     
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  11. lukaszek the determinator Patron

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    where are porn games with rich story but no sex scenes? PG Porn style
     
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  12. sorinmask Just like Yves, I chase tales. Patron

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    Strap Yourselves In Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    Mods will fix it.

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  13. Tyranicon A Memory of Eternity Developer

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    You are asking for way too much. A good portion of adultdev is just people trying to cash in quick on the fact that there's a huge, untapped market of degenerates.

    My games kind of count, I guess. Memoirs is on the more "wholesome" end of the spectrum, which is pretty weird, given the premise.

    Porn games don't have to be sleazy, but they usually are.
     
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  14. lukaszek the determinator Patron

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    along with deterministic waifu you are indeed selling your game hard
     
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  15. Caim Arcane

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    Imagine a mix of a shmup, X-COM and Source Filmmaker porn, except you should use the money you'd spend on the game to buy yourself a decent shmup, an X-COM, and a stiff drink to wash away the shame after watching the porn parts on an adult video site of your choice. Only interesting for historical relevance / :5/5:

    Oh there is context to the fucking, but it's all "roses are red, violets are blue, I am horny and so are you". So it's not exactly the New Vegas of porn games, but then again New Vegas was written by a guy who doesn't really like sappy romance in his video game stories.

    Mass Effect.
     
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  16. Tweed Professional Kobold Patron

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    You mean to say that another porn game turned out to be shit even after horny morons threw tons of money at it? Shockling!
     
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  17. Rafidur Learned

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    IIRC past half point The Last Sovereign stops drawing scenes anymore. As for story heavy, hooo boy.
     
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  18. Tyrr Savant

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    It was a mistake to trust a western company with making a good porn game.
    Just imagine what even a average Japanese amateur circle could have made with this amount of money.
     
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  19. Sykar Arcane

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    Paging Loverslab!
     
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  20. Tyranicon A Memory of Eternity Developer

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    From the wiki:

    I have no idea how many Japanese people, if any, they have working for them.
     
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  21. TheHeroOfTime Arcane

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    There's this autor called Akabur that makes flash porn games called "whatever trainer". The dude actually writes interesting settings and characters. I played the "Witch hunter" a bit time ago and I became more interested in the world and characters than in the erotism/porn scenes.
     
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  22. Fedora Master Arcane Patron Edgy

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  23. Sotomonte Novice

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    With the amount of money they made I expected the sex gameplay to be at least like the Illusion games ... to simply watch porn there are dozens of free websites

    :mixedemotions:
     
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  24. Curratum Magister

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    I can't even believe how much money they just pocketed out of all this. Then again, with the ridiculous amounts of voiceovers for the endless, pointless text, maybe they just paid a ton to the voice actors and that's where the money went.
     
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  25. Caim Arcane

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    And they'll need it. I found the Patreon of the woman who does the voice of the doctor lady, and guess how many patrons she has?

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